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Alex Mitchell - gone on a season long loan to Plymouth Argyle (p11)

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  • O-Randy-Hunt
    O-Randy-Hunt Posts: 10,626
    🤣 them videos keep cracking me up. He was having argie bargie with the fella before the ball came in from the free kick. I was just hoping he wasn't going to give a silly foul away.

    You hate these players when they play against you but you can't help but love them when they play for you. Proper wind up merchant yesterday. Quality.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,364
    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/sport/charlton-athletic-centre-half-alex-mitchell-lazy-defending-is-costing-us-goals/
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    edited November 2024
    It does feel that opponents give out attackers less time on the ball. Whoever they are.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,364
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    It does feel that opponents give out attackers less time on the ball. Whoever they are.
    Despite us being the club who’s recruitment is focussed on physicality and aggression over technical ability and creativity.

    I’m not convinced the many of the players are really believe in and enjoy playing such a direct and rigid style. Fine for the younger ones who are happy to get game time, but I’m pretty sure this isn’t how players like Docherty got promoted with Hull, or Gillesphey with Plymouth.
  • MillwallFan
    MillwallFan Posts: 3,347
    Now you’ve had a good third of a season watching him, would you lot say he was championship level? Be interested in you’re opinions and whether we should have held on to him or not. 
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,342
    edited November 2024
    MillwallFan said:
    Now you’ve had a good third of a season watching him, would you lot say he was championship level? Be interested in you’re opinions and whether we should have held on to him or not. 
    No, he isn't championship level. He has some attributes and the character to be a championship level player though. Considering he's only just turned 23, I am fairly confident he will end up there, with or without us. Probably the latter. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,833
    MillwallFan said:
    Now you’ve had a good third of a season watching him, would you lot say he was championship level? Be interested in you’re opinions and whether we should have held on to him or not. 
    I could see him at a newly promoted Championship club, but I think his slight lack of mobility will prevent him playing for a decent one. Especially in a football world where centre backs are now expected to be good footballers and passers as well.

    He'd do a job at Millwall, but as a squad player only.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 10,966
    He panics a bit too much to be ready for the Championship. Lost count of the amount of times at the weekend he had time and space to control the ball or pass to a teammate but he just booted it out for a throw instead. Composure can be learned though and he looks better with a commanding player like Jones next to him
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,158
    He's a good defender but he is impossibly slow in a sprint. He's got a good reading of the game so he'll often make up the ground early to get to where he needs to be but I've watched him trailing some players running back to goal and wondered if I have the playback on slow motion. Good character though, I reckon he's smart and diligent enough to build more things into his game to offset his lack of pace and raise his level
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,833
    Garrymanilow said:
    He's a good defender but he is impossibly slow in a sprint. He's got a good reading of the game so he'll often make up the ground early to get to where he needs to be but I've watched him trailing some players running back to goal and wondered if I have the playback on slow motion. Good character though, I reckon he's smart and diligent enough to build more things into his game to offset his lack of pace and raise his level
    Him and L Jones make a good combination, as Jones has the mobility to help cover for Mitchell's lack of pace.
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  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,344
    edited November 2024
    MillwallFan said:
    Now you’ve had a good third of a season watching him, would you lot say he was championship level? Be interested in you’re opinions and whether we should have held on to him or not. 
    If we'd been winning games I think the reviews would be more generous. In terms of raw defending, we've not had a better CB in ages. He's not the fastest but not quite as slow as is being suggested (but that's just my opinion). His attitude is first class every game and he's a proper old school battler. Improve on the ball and no reason he won't play in the Champ. 
  • Billy_Mix
    Billy_Mix Posts: 2,707
    Garrymanilow said:
    He's a good defender but he is impossibly slow in a sprint. He's got a good reading of the game so he'll often make up the ground early to get to where he needs to be but I've watched him trailing some players running back to goal and wondered if I have the playback on slow motion. Good character though, I reckon he's smart and diligent enough to build more things into his game to offset his lack of pace and raise his level
    He's definitely bereft of pace and I'm not sure he's that quick between the ears either.  He's our best body when the opposition is kicking it long and simple, he's comparable to REG and Gillesphey when it's on the deck.  He'd need twice the athleticism and a major attention upgrade if he's hoping to get a promotion.  He has rarely looked out of place in our current backline - and that is damning indeed.

    Intriguing comment about 'lazy defending'.  Fascinated to learn if that's him being a bit too honest about himself, or a slight slip of the tongue (lazy when he meant dozy?), or if he's utterly naffed off by his immediate colleagues and not so subtly throwing them under the bus.  One of those is unfortunate, one he could improve, the other is deeply troubling.
  • follett
    follett Posts: 1,032
    Chunes said:
    MillwallFan said:
    Now you’ve had a good third of a season watching him, would you lot say he was championship level? Be interested in you’re opinions and whether we should have held on to him or not. 
    If we'd been winning games I think the reviews would be more generous. In terms of raw defending, we've not had a better CB in ages. He's not the fastest but not quite as slow as is being suggested (but that's just my opinion). His attitude is first class every game and he's a proper old school battler. Improve on the ball and no reason he won't play in the Champ. 
    I don't dislike Mitchell but I think Jones is a better CB. Think Mitchell can be a very good League One Player in a better team than Charlton but think any club that got promoted with him would probably look to replace him with someone a bit better suited to Championship football.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    I think he has been a good signing. He lacks finesse but does his job. IMO, he is a player to build our defence around.
  • MillwallFan
    MillwallFan Posts: 3,347
    Thanks for the replies. Interesting 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,364
    I agree he should eventually step up to the Championship. Pace and ability on the ball isn’t there for PL football, but I don’t think the Championship has moved on so much someone who’s becoming a solid reliable CB won’t find a club where he can play regularly at that level.
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,272
    He's decent. Championship no problem on future imo.  He needs a commanding CB next to him.  Currently he has Gillesphy.
  • IR94
    IR94 Posts: 741
    MillwallFan said:
    Now you’ve had a good third of a season watching him, would you lot say he was championship level? Be interested in you’re opinions and whether we should have held on to him or not. 
    Wouldnt say so atm, maybe in time, I can see why Milwall let him go, Tanganga and Cooper are much better players
  • IR94
    IR94 Posts: 741
    Chunes said:
    MillwallFan said:
    Now you’ve had a good third of a season watching him, would you lot say he was championship level? Be interested in you’re opinions and whether we should have held on to him or not. 
    If we'd been winning games I think the reviews would be more generous. In terms of raw defending, we've not had a better CB in ages. He's not the fastest but not quite as slow as is being suggested (but that's just my opinion). His attitude is first class every game and he's a proper old school battler. Improve on the ball and no reason he won't play in the Champ. 
    I think Jones is by far a superior CB
  • MillwallFan
    MillwallFan Posts: 3,347
    IR94 said:
    MillwallFan said:
    Now you’ve had a good third of a season watching him, would you lot say he was championship level? Be interested in you’re opinions and whether we should have held on to him or not. 
    Wouldnt say so atm, maybe in time, I can see why Milwall let him go, Tanganga and Cooper are much better players
    Yes, and then we’ve got Harding and Hutchinson who are both decent cover for them, as well as Ryan Leonard who can do a very good job as a CB
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  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,344
    edited November 2024
    IR94 said:
    Chunes said:
    MillwallFan said:
    Now you’ve had a good third of a season watching him, would you lot say he was championship level? Be interested in you’re opinions and whether we should have held on to him or not. 
    If we'd been winning games I think the reviews would be more generous. In terms of raw defending, we've not had a better CB in ages. He's not the fastest but not quite as slow as is being suggested (but that's just my opinion). His attitude is first class every game and he's a proper old school battler. Improve on the ball and no reason he won't play in the Champ. 
    I think Jones is by far a superior CB
    I like Jones as well, wasn't declaring an opinion on who is better. They could both go on to play at a higher level - who knows - I'm not sure anyone on here was predicting Tom Lockyer would go and play Premier League football while he was turning out for us.

    Lloyd was getting hammered on here last season, partly because he had to line-up next to Hector. 

    Jones & Mitchell complement each other well. 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,748
    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/sport/charlton-athletic-defender-on-brave-shout-that-they-will-reach-league-one-play-offs/

    Charlton Athletic defender on “brave shout” that they will reach League One play-offs


  • balham red
    balham red Posts: 1,276
    He's a good centre back at this level but needs a partner like Jones.
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,773
    Not ashamed to say he is one of my favourite players in recent years. 

    The type of player I think we have been missing at the back, in as much as someone you know who loves the job and thrives the further into the trenches a game goes. Also, though obviously not that strong - I think a little bit underrated on the ball.

    Also - just loves to give it the opposition and there fans. The sort of player we would hate, but is ours!
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,280
    FishCostaFortune said:
    Not ashamed to say he is one of my favourite players in recent years. 

    The type of player I think we have been missing at the back, in as much as someone you know who loves the job and thrives the further into the trenches a game goes. Also, though obviously not that strong - I think a little bit underrated on the ball.

    Also - just loves to give it the opposition and there fans. The sort of player we would hate, but is ours!
    I love his celebrations when we score, can tell it means a lot to him 
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 10,999
    He's definitely the kind of player whose value isn't all about stats and what you see "on the pitch" as by most of those metrics he's decent but not exceptional.
    But his attitude and love of being just a bit of a dickhead to other teams/fans is exactly what you need sometimes, particularly from a CB - possibly shades of Pearce but without the tendency to resort to WWE moves on strikers!
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,020
    MillwallFan said:
    IR94 said:
    MillwallFan said:
    Now you’ve had a good third of a season watching him, would you lot say he was championship level? Be interested in you’re opinions and whether we should have held on to him or not. 
    Wouldnt say so atm, maybe in time, I can see why Milwall let him go, Tanganga and Cooper are much better players
    Yes, and then we’ve got Harding and Hutchinson who are both decent cover for them, as well as Ryan Leonard who can do a very good job as a CB

    Then of course you could bring McLeary back, he'd do a better job.
  • Amos on the wing
    Amos on the wing Posts: 1,802
    Been a good signing. Good character  and a player I can see eventually becoming an influential skipper for us
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    I think we can look at the defence when Jones is missing and forget that Mitchell and Gillesphey may work well with him and it isn't always about one player. Anyway, he is clearly a good signing for us.
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,976
    Can’t pass for shit but he certainly loves to defend!

    top bloke

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