Pearson and Jones both difficult characters (Jones just a dick really) but would take a gamble on either of them if they'd manage at this level wouldn't have thought either of them would especially with us this low in the table.
I half get the Powell thing if it was til the end of the season, but I'm pretty sure he isn't an answer for more than an immediate bump
Our last 3 appointments have been a coach with one good season under his belt and a couple of no marks with shit track records.
Forget this bloody "Charlton Connection" nonsense and just go and get someone with a decent record at this level who's style fits the squad of players we have.
Duff is a no brainer. Proven at this level and favours 3-5-2.
Jones is another potential busted flush, he is unlikely to endear himself to the fanbase either as he is seen as a bit of an odd all these days.
I wouldn't be too disappointed with Rowett. Would certainly make us difficult to beat and am sure he'd keep us up and push on next season.
I honestly think Nathan Jones would sort them out in no time.
Is his time at Stoke and Southampton not a red flag though? Another manager on the way down?
He got out of his depth at Southampton, but this is a completely different scenario. This is about getting players to understand their roles and perform them competently.
Why do some have this obsession with needing someone who has a connection to the club?
Look at our managerial record. The ones that have succeeded haven’t come with outrageous experience but they get what it’s about and get a tune out of second rate league one footballers.
And what about the ones that failed or does having a Charlton connection not apply to them?
Which ones failed? Can only recall Jackson being the only manager with a Charlton connection to not get us promoted and that was an impossible task during the time he was given.
Pardew is about the only Charlton connected failure I can think of?
Why do some have this obsession with needing someone who has a connection to the club?
Look at our managerial record. The ones that have succeeded haven’t come with outrageous experience but they get what it’s about and get a tune out of second rate league one footballers.
And what about the ones that failed or does having a Charlton connection not apply to them?
Of course it doesn’t. But having a Charlton connection is a starting point because of it. It’s not automatically given like not having one isn’t. But you asked a question.
I want the next one in charge to keep us up. Not start their project, not impose a style, not wait for the next pre season or transfer window, but bloody well keep us up this season.
I am afraid we need to plan for the short term, not the long one.
If need someone with a Charlton connection should consider Andy Hughes currently coaching at Norwich - but I would hope the regime already have a decent candidate lined up as Appleton's departure was hardly unseen.
Jones and Dyer sound like a good combination, both worked here previously. Dyer an assistant in a record breaking side. I would be happy with that
Duff was excellent at this level with Barnsley and Cheltenham. Knows how to get the best out of May.
Eustece - I think he still has enough credit after the Bham sacking to get the right champ job. Was clearly squeezing every bit he could out that side.
I’ve always liked the look of Neil Critchley at Blackpool. He has them performing very well in his first term and they’re a good side now
Never going to happen but the Pompey boss is excellent. We would never get him just thought I mention him
Would also add Michael Beale. Might be out of a job at Sunderland soon. Coached with us an ex youth player. Has had some poor spells at Rangers and Sunderland, equally had QPR playing at a much higher level than now so who knows
Why do some have this obsession with needing someone who has a connection to the club?
Look at our managerial record. The ones that have succeeded haven’t come with outrageous experience but they get what it’s about and get a tune out of second rate league one footballers.
And what about the ones that failed or does having a Charlton connection not apply to them?
Which ones failed? Can only recall Jackson being the only manager with a Charlton connection to not get us promoted and that was an impossible task during the time he was given.
Pardew is about the only Charlton connected failure I can think of?
Why do some have this obsession with needing someone who has a connection to the club?
Look at our managerial record. The ones that have succeeded haven’t come with outrageous experience but they get what it’s about and get a tune out of second rate league one footballers.
And what about the ones that failed or does having a Charlton connection not apply to them?
Of course it doesn’t. But having a Charlton connection is a starting point because of it. It’s not automatically given like not having one isn’t. But you asked a question.
But that's why I asked because then if there isn't an obvious benefit in terms of being a success why do people want it? I get why people are wary about bringing in unknowns after the recent record, they weren't shit because they didn't have a Charlton connection previously, they were just shit.
It’s got to such a position we can’t even put someone in place for a 16-month project to attack promotion, our first priority is to get someone to spark enough positive short-term reaction to keep us up. Out of L2 FFS!
Get this wrong and a manager doesn’t get a positive turn then we are f***ed. As @ValleyGary said, the dressing room is rotten.
Discounting internal appointments (Bowyer and Jackson were here already and got the job through successful caretaker spells) many of our appointments since Bowyer have been quite random.
Adkins - a bit of a forgotten man when he was appointed Garner - an owner deciding he wanted to change the style of play Holden - not someone linked with other jobs, was in the stands watching us (with Scott and co), then in charge amid the confusion of the on/off takeover Appleton - journeyman manager, I still can't work out what his style of football actually is
Why do some have this obsession with needing someone who has a connection to the club?
Look at our managerial record. The ones that have succeeded haven’t come with outrageous experience but they get what it’s about and get a tune out of second rate league one footballers.
And what about the ones that failed or does having a Charlton connection not apply to them?
Which ones failed? Can only recall Jackson being the only manager with a Charlton connection to not get us promoted and that was an impossible task during the time he was given.
Pardew is about the only Charlton connected failure I can think of?
Why do some have this obsession with needing someone who has a connection to the club?
Look at our managerial record. The ones that have succeeded haven’t come with outrageous experience but they get what it’s about and get a tune out of second rate league one footballers.
And what about the ones that failed or does having a Charlton connection not apply to them?
Of course it doesn’t. But having a Charlton connection is a starting point because of it. It’s not automatically given like not having one isn’t. But you asked a question.
But that's why I asked because then if there isn't an obvious benefit in terms of being a success why do people want it? I get why people are wary about bringing in unknowns after the recent record, they weren't shit because they didn't have a Charlton connection previously, they were just shit.
But I’m trying to say even tho it’s not a given, the last two that got us promotion have been Charlton. Jackson was Charlton and it didn’t work out which agrees with your point; but the last two successful were. People will revert to type.
18 games to play and I reckon we need 5 wins to stay up. This squad should be good enough for that. Motivation is key....and a bit more nouse at the back. A decent new manager bounce would get us almost there I reckon. A few streaky draws and we're home
18 games to play and I reckon we need 5 wins to stay up. This squad should be good enough for that. Motivation is key....and a bit more nouse at the back. A decent new manager bounce would get us almost there I reckon. A few streaky draws and we're home
It’s ridiculous we are even in this position. Both Camera & Aneke are very good players at this level when fit. Got to hope those two can remain fit after returning from injury.
Feels like now is completely the wrong situation to go for someone that's unproven , it's the wrong time to go and find the next Kieran McKenna from a PL Club or look at someone like Andy Hughes at Norwich.
Got to be someone that's got experience of being a No1.
Feels like now is completely the wrong situation to go for someone that's unproven , it's the wrong time to go and find the next Kieran McKenna from a PL Club or look at someone like Andy Hughes at Norwich.
Got to be someone that's got experience of being a No1.
Minefield isn't it. Appleton had lots of experience of being a number one but looked more like a number 4 or 5 when he was here.
18 games to play and I reckon we need 5 wins to stay up. This squad should be good enough for that. Motivation is key....and a bit more nouse at the back. A decent new manager bounce would get us almost there I reckon. A few streaky draws and we're home
This is good thinking, something tangible to relate to, the task ahead.
If need someone with a Charlton connection should consider Andy Hughes currently coaching at Norwich - but I would hope the regime already have a decent candidate lined up as Appleton's departure was hardly unseen.
Feels like now is completely the wrong situation to go for someone that's unproven , it's the wrong time to go and find the next Kieran McKenna from a PL Club or look at someone like Andy Hughes at Norwich.
Got to be someone that's got experience of being a No1.
Minefield isn't it. Appleton had lots of experience of being a number one but looked more like a number 4 or 5 when he was here.
Yeah it's a complete minefield , it feels like we've had a bit of everything in terms of managerial appointments in recent years.
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I half get the Powell thing if it was til the end of the season, but I'm pretty sure he isn't an answer for more than an immediate bump
Our last 3 appointments have been a coach with one good season under his belt and a couple of no marks with shit track records.
Forget this bloody "Charlton Connection" nonsense and just go and get someone with a decent record at this level who's style fits the squad of players we have.
Duff is a no brainer. Proven at this level and favours 3-5-2.
Jones is another potential busted flush, he is unlikely to endear himself to the fanbase either as he is seen as a bit of an odd all these days.
I wouldn't be too disappointed with Rowett. Would certainly make us difficult to beat and am sure he'd keep us up and push on next season.
Pardew is about the only Charlton connected failure I can think of?
I am afraid we need to plan for the short term, not the long one.
Duff was excellent at this level with Barnsley and Cheltenham. Knows how to get the best out of May.
Never going to happen but the Pompey boss is excellent. We would never get him just thought I mention him
Would also add Michael Beale. Might be out of a job at Sunderland soon. Coached with us an ex youth player. Has had some poor spells at Rangers and Sunderland, equally had QPR playing at a much higher level than now so who knows
But that's why I asked because then if there isn't an obvious benefit in terms of being a success why do people want it? I get why people are wary about bringing in unknowns after the recent record, they weren't shit because they didn't have a Charlton connection previously, they were just shit.
Adkins - a bit of a forgotten man when he was appointed
Garner - an owner deciding he wanted to change the style of play
Holden - not someone linked with other jobs, was in the stands watching us (with Scott and co), then in charge amid the confusion of the on/off takeover
Appleton - journeyman manager, I still can't work out what his style of football actually is
A decent new manager bounce would get us almost there I reckon. A few streaky draws and we're home
Got to be someone that's got experience of being a No1.
Yeah it's a complete minefield , it feels like we've had a bit of everything in terms of managerial appointments in recent years.
it was dire at The Valley tonight