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January 2024 Transfer Rumours (D/day starts pg.263)

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  • drawnablank
    drawnablank Posts: 775
    edited January 2024
    Think there is too much clamour for a big man! I’d like to see use more ball technicians, utilise combinations and rotations to open up the opposition and retain possession. Understand the necessity for variation but for me, rather not have that as a plan A, unless they can fit both criteria 
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,912
    shirty5 said:
    Odd how he's gone from playing every game to on his way out so quickly. One game on the bench, one game not in the squad and announced hes free to go that same day. Not disagreeing with the decision and his performances/ the type of player he is doesnt suggest we should keep him but how the way that its happened.
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,265
    Don't know a lot about this Ikpeazu but I am in agreement with a lot of posts on here about his ability to put the ball in the net, prolific he is not ! On the plus side, there is a complete lack of the physical side in our squad, with the three forwards we were after, that seems like an effort to change that but once again I have to agree with posters on here, CBT goes, who replaces his goals. CBT has had arguably his best season and certainly his best return of goals and just as well because Rak Sakyi goals return was certain to be missed. If we sign Ikpeazu, fine, but we need another who can find the net. 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,033
    shirty5 said:

    Wouldn't be against this but I think we'd be on the hook for a significant chunk of his wages , think he's still got a year left to run.
  • Talal said:
    A bit of physicality from Kanu on Saturday was all it needed to get the crowd going a bit. Think people might like this guy when he can do it ten times better. 
    Exactly what I was thinking. Also, maybe a ploy to get JCH to make up his mind.
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,031
    shirty5 said:
    Odd how he's gone from playing every game to on his way out so quickly. One game on the bench, one game not in the squad and announced hes free to go that same day. Not disagreeing with the decision and his performances/ the type of player he is doesnt suggest we should keep him but how the way that its happened.
    combination of poor performances, new signings and the player wanting to leave 
  • Richard J
    Richard J Posts: 8,032
    shirty5 said:
    I was a bit disappointed at first when I felt Fraser would be on the way out but I can.now see it is probably for the best 

    In my view we need a left footed player to come in to replace him. Will this free upl money for Lewis Bate or Joe Powell?
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,221
    Have worked out who Swisdom's CB/DCM is and I now have a Kinks song as an earworm.

    Great song, no idea on the player but I'll give him 20 minutes into his debut before I judge him.
    Does he walk like a woman and talk like a man ……….
    Close but no cigar
  • Richard J said:
    shirty5 said:
    I was a bit disappointed at first when I felt Fraser would be on the way out but I can.now see it is probably for the best 

    In my view we need a left footed player to come in to replace him. Will this free upl money for Lewis Bate or Joe Powell?

    It appears that Motherwell would be loaning him, I can imagine that we will still be paying a lot of his wages as the SPL clubs are not big payers outside of the Auld Firm.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,993
    fenaddick said:
    DOUCHER said:


    Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence. 

    Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
    he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be huge 
    But he will also cost a fee? 

    For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played. 

    This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..

    Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
    The implication from that Sky paragraph is he’d be free. I’d imagine cheap wages too 
    If it was free it would be for next season, I can't imagine why Port Vale would be willing to lose one of their only strikers for free tbh. 

    Cheap wages but still wages, could potentially be another one we have sitting their wasting wages and blocking other transfer activity.

    Scoham said:
    DOUCHER said:


    Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence. 

    Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
    he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be huge 
    But he will also cost a fee? 

    For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played. 

    This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..

    Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
    I don’t get the way of thinking (the last bit) - if we don’t get him what makes you think we’d get better? The longer we wait the more risk we end up with someone further down the list or worse, no new striker at all.

    This could also be one of those situations where we have a few possibilities, but we have to keep some moving along to ensure we get the type of player we need, even if we have to go with a short term option.

    Because we have been heavily linked with one of the best strikers in the league, it's quite underwhelming to go from that to a player who's probably not even top20 material.

    Just don't think it's a good signing is all 
    No one thinks it's a very good signing.
    Many people think that if he's the best available to us for this season, then it's better than nothing.

    Port Vale are level on points with Charlton and have a game in hand.
    If you think Port Vale would be wrong to sell/release him, I don't understand why you can't continue the thought process and think it would be beneficial to Charlton (to help avoid relegation). 
    Because one man's trash is another man's treasure and vice versa. 

    I don't believe he would be as important to us as he is allegedly to Port Vale, the reviews seem mixed. 

    I'll just wait and see (all we can do), either way, this is firmly starting to look like a typical January if it wasn't for Conor Coventry, especially if CBT does go and potentially Dobson.

    Failed to get out top targets (except Coventry)

    Failed to keep our prized assets (likely)

    Added stop gaps and unproven players to the ranks to tide us over. Gillesphey will be Hector's replacement likely, so we still need another centre back.

    I'll get stick for it, as anyone who doesn't praise them does, but we are miles off it still and a striker that doesn't score (I understand he has more to his game) and a third choice goalie isn't going to cut it. 
    Not really a fair assessment that though is it? We wanted to get a left sided centre half and we got the one we wanted in Gillesphey. We obviously bid for Abbey but he's got Premier League interest so that was never going to happen. Our top target up front was JCH but if we've had a £500k bid accepted, offered him more than£10k a week and he's said no because he wants more then what can we do? Goodwin is unfortunate but we got done on location, can't help that. We've had to go down our list on strikers but there's not a lot of obvious options out there and JCH sounds like he's been a bit of a penis. Appleton's first choice signing was clearly Fiorini and we got him along with a physical midfielder and Coventry who we beat a Championship team to. If we're changing formation to a shape that doesn't fit CBT and getting money to fund players who do then overall that's a positive. Coventry alone makes a better window than Bonne, Penney and Kilkenny
    The players you mention are replacing outgoing players though in all likeliness.

    I think it's fair, but that's my view. I genuinely just shouldn't post about it as it just ends up being a case of people arguing over what they do when it's all irrelevant and they're going to do what they want in the end and we just have to watch it. 

    Good luck to Uche

    NabySarr said:
    fenaddick said:
    DOUCHER said:


    Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence. 

    Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
    he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be huge 
    But he will also cost a fee? 

    For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played. 

    This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..

    Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
    The implication from that Sky paragraph is he’d be free. I’d imagine cheap wages too 
    If it was free it would be for next season, I can't imagine why Port Vale would be willing to lose one of their only strikers for free tbh. 

    Cheap wages but still wages, could potentially be another one we have sitting their wasting wages and blocking other transfer activity.

    Scoham said:
    DOUCHER said:


    Got to he honest, I'd be a bit underwhelmed by this. Stockton at least has a history of a decent strike rate, Goodwin has potential and JCH is an absolute bagsman that's also a physical presence. 

    Uche is just a bit of a handful, poor strike rate.
    he's not perfect but the difference he'd make to our team would be huge 
    But he will also cost a fee? 

    For me this just isn't a good signing, 29 in a month (same age as the 'old' JCH), barely made an impact anywhere he has played. 

    This just smacks of desperation and not a signing where a plan has been put in place. I don't imagine he would be a part of our build for next season..

    Hopefully Wycombe will outbid us on this one.
    I don’t get the way of thinking (the last bit) - if we don’t get him what makes you think we’d get better? The longer we wait the more risk we end up with someone further down the list or worse, no new striker at all.

    This could also be one of those situations where we have a few possibilities, but we have to keep some moving along to ensure we get the type of player we need, even if we have to go with a short term option.

    Because we have been heavily linked with one of the best strikers in the league, it's quite underwhelming to go from that to a player who's probably not even top20 material.

    Just don't think it's a good signing is all 
    No one thinks it's a very good signing.
    Many people think that if he's the best available to us for this season, then it's better than nothing.

    Port Vale are level on points with Charlton and have a game in hand.
    If you think Port Vale would be wrong to sell/release him, I don't understand why you can't continue the thought process and think it would be beneficial to Charlton (to help avoid relegation). 
    Because one man's trash is another man's treasure and vice versa. 

    I don't believe he would be as important to us as he is allegedly to Port Vale, the reviews seem mixed. 

    I'll just wait and see (all we can do), either way, this is firmly starting to look like a typical January if it wasn't for Conor Coventry, especially if CBT does go and potentially Dobson.

    Failed to get out top targets (except Coventry)

    Failed to keep our prized assets (likely)

    Added stop gaps and unproven players to the ranks to tide us over. Gillesphey will be Hector's replacement likely, so we still need another centre back.

    I'll get stick for it, as anyone who doesn't praise them does, but we are miles off it still and a striker that doesn't score (I understand he has more to his game) and a third choice goalie isn't going to cut it. 
    Is this your first January transfer window? Can’t expect them to fully rebuild the squad in January! 

    It’s just about making some good signings, not being silly and overpaying, and leaving ourselves with less to do in the summer. I think we are doing a reasonable job at that so far, with 2 good permanent signings, and 2 loans that cover a short term need and could be potential permanent signings in the summer 
    Yes first January transfer window of course. 

    So just for some clarity, this window doesn't count in the future when we discuss how many windows this regime has had? Cause so far the summer didn't count as they arrived too late, allegedly, and now January is a write off as it's a sellers market? 

    Anyway yeah good signing, real strong lad, I'm sure he'll do a job at his 14th club. Can't wait to travel up and down the country to watch Uche do a job.
    You're getting more illogical with every post.
    Anyway, back to transfer rumours.
    I just lost interest after repeating myself. Thought I'd just join in and be happy over the signing. No matter what I use as my reasoning someone will flip it, rather than go up against the pack just best to go along with it.

    That's how this thread goes. You simply cannot be against a signing or voice your views or it's a swarm of petty posts, subtle digs and a sense of unwelcome. 




    With the greatest respect you can and have voiced your views, probably more than anyone else.
    You just get upset when the vast majority disagree with your views.
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  • PWADDICK
    PWADDICK Posts: 526
    shirty5 said:
    Not a loan thanks, if he wants to move back to Scotland for family reasons, he can take the pay cut that comes with it
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,993
    edited January 2024
    Surely there is a premier league youngster available on loan for the rest of the season?

    Our top choice targets seem to have past us by as well as the young and upcoming punts for the future so if we cant find a permanent option on a long term deal lets take a loan now and see if later in the month anything has changed. Someone could be willing to negotiate or desperate for a move, or a club could sign a striker freeing up someone for a late move. 
    No one better than Karoy Anderson (according to Jim Rodwell).
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    Have worked out who Swisdom's CB/DCM is and I now have a Kinks song as an earworm.

    Great song, no idea on the player but I'll give him 20 minutes into his debut before I judge him.
    Does he walk like a woman and talk like a man ……….
    Close but no cigar
    Is it a song on this list?


  • Yann897 said:
    mendonca said:
    He's just a lump. 
    He was a lot more than that when we played them a few weeks ago , a constant threat .

    True but I remember when we played Swindon a couple of years ago and a chap called Jaiyesimi scored a super goal, turning our full back inside out before scoring.

    I swear we signed him on the basis of that goal. And we know how that turned out in the end.

    Signing this Port Vale guy on the basis of what he did to us in one game strikes me as exactly the same.


  • What team is Fraser linked with? Can't see the article
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,476
    What team is Fraser linked with? Can't see the article
    Motherwell
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,221
    Scoham said:
    Have worked out who Swisdom's CB/DCM is and I now have a Kinks song as an earworm.

    Great song, no idea on the player but I'll give him 20 minutes into his debut before I judge him.
    Does he walk like a woman and talk like a man ……….
    Close but no cigar
    Is it a song on this list?


    No
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    What team is Fraser linked with? Can't see the article
    Motherwell
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  • CafcWest
    CafcWest Posts: 6,167
    What team is Fraser linked with? Can't see the article
    Motherwell
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,033


    Huddersfield have just announced a CB. Edmonds-Green on his way to us?
  • DDOUBLEE
    DDOUBLEE Posts: 1,473
    Sorry, I wasn’t quite sure what team Fraser was linked to…?
  • The Prince-e-Paul
    The Prince-e-Paul Posts: 6,688
    edited January 2024
    Think there is too much clamour for a big man! I’d like to see use more ball technicians, utilise combinations and rotations to open up the opposition and retain possession. Understand the necessity for variation but for me, rather not as have that as a plan A, unless they can fit both criteria 
    I get that. Both JRS have bagged a hat full of goals over the two seasons, even as short fellas, but they need a wingman. If Chuks and Leaburn aren't available out plan B is basically nobody. Limping along till the summer makes sense, so long as the limping is still producing points. 
  • Addick_8
    Addick_8 Posts: 687
    edited January 2024
    He’s the type of player that will always attract those sorts of comments from fans who just want 11 players on the pitch who get them off their seat.

    Ikpeazu doesn’t (usually) do that but he’s the sort of player that can be essential in getting as much as you can out of the players around him. And we need someone like that at the top end of the pitch desperately.
    How much have you seen him play other than when we played them recently to make the call that we need him ‘desperately’ ?
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,977
    What team is Fraser linked with? Can't see the article
    This got far too many bites…
  • Have worked out who Swisdom's CB/DCM is and I now have a Kinks song as an earworm.

    Great song, no idea on the player but I'll give him 20 minutes into his debut before I judge him.
    Does he walk like a woman and talk like a man ……….
    Close but no cigar
    So it's not Gianfranco Lola then 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,031
    Have worked out who Swisdom's CB/DCM is and I now have a Kinks song as an earworm.

    Great song, no idea on the player but I'll give him 20 minutes into his debut before I judge him.
    https://youtu.be/320yV68ab5c?feature=shared
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168
    Scoham said:
    Have worked out who Swisdom's CB/DCM is and I now have a Kinks song as an earworm.

    Great song, no idea on the player but I'll give him 20 minutes into his debut before I judge him.
    Does he walk like a woman and talk like a man ……….
    Close but no cigar
    Is it a song on this list?


    No
    Is he called Arthur?
  • sillav nitram
    sillav nitram Posts: 10,164
    Scoham said:
    Have worked out who Swisdom's CB/DCM is and I now have a Kinks song as an earworm.

    Great song, no idea on the player but I'll give him 20 minutes into his debut before I judge him.
    Does he walk like a woman and talk like a man ……….
    Close but no cigar
    Is it a song on this list?


    I’m going with a yes.

    Has to be Apeman, something we definitely don’t have.