Is that thing above Dean Holden praising Jason Pearce, or Jason Pearce saying he was a proud man on Saturday? At my age I find those kinds of posts incomprehensible. Nothing is obvious.
Both.
Pearce posted the proud one, Holden quoted him and said great work Jason.
Is that thing above Dean Holden praising Jason Pearce, or Jason Pearce saying he was a proud man on Saturday? At my age I find those kinds of posts incomprehensible. Nothing is obvious.
Both.
Pearce posted the proud one, Holden quoted him and said great work Jason.
I reckon it was the fact he didn’t recognise he needed help and maybe from an older head that did for him. I’d suggested a number of times that he needed to bring in someone who had been there, done it, bought the tee shirt. Instead he was working with those already at the club.
I reckon it was the fact he didn’t recognise he needed help and maybe from an older head that did for him. I’d suggested a number of times that he needed to bring in someone who had been there, done it, bought the tee shirt. Instead he was working with those already at the club.
He was offered Chris Powell as a mentor and said no. TBH, much as I respect SCP I can see why DH would baulk at having someone imposed above him.
But I agree he need a wiser, older head alongside him of his own choice.
He also needed some of the luck that MA is getting with injuries (Aneke, Leaburn) and the new signings earlier.
I reckon it was the fact he didn’t recognise he needed help and maybe from an older head that did for him. I’d suggested a number of times that he needed to bring in someone who had been there, done it, bought the tee shirt. Instead he was working with those already at the club.
He was offered Chris Powell as a mentor and said no. TBH, much as I respect SCP I can see why DH would baulk at having someone imposed above him.
But I agree he need a wiser, older head alongside him of his own choice.
He also needed some of the luck that MA is getting with injuries (Aneke, Leaburn) and the new signings earlier.
I reckon it was the fact he didn’t recognise he needed help and maybe from an older head that did for him. I’d suggested a number of times that he needed to bring in someone who had been there, done it, bought the tee shirt. Instead he was working with those already at the club.
Possibly where someone cracked open their thesaurus and put "collegiate" onto the job spec...
I reckon it was the fact he didn’t recognise he needed help and maybe from an older head that did for him. I’d suggested a number of times that he needed to bring in someone who had been there, done it, bought the tee shirt. Instead he was working with those already at the club.
He was offered Chris Powell as a mentor and said no. TBH, much as I respect SCP I can see why DH would baulk at having someone imposed above him.
But I agree he need a wiser, older head alongside him of his own choice.
He also needed some of the luck that MA is getting with injuries (Aneke, Leaburn) and the new signings earlier.
Do you know if Holden suggested an alternative or was it a case of powell being offered, Holden saying no and that was the end of the conversation
I reckon it was the fact he didn’t recognise he needed help and maybe from an older head that did for him. I’d suggested a number of times that he needed to bring in someone who had been there, done it, bought the tee shirt. Instead he was working with those already at the club.
He was offered Chris Powell as a mentor and said no. TBH, much as I respect SCP I can see why DH would baulk at having someone imposed above him.
But I agree he need a wiser, older head alongside him of his own choice.
He also needed some of the luck that MA is getting with injuries (Aneke, Leaburn) and the new signings earlier.
Do you know if Holden suggested an alternative or was it a case of powell being offered, Holden saying no and that was the end of the conversation
Powell as his number 2! That would have been like a turkey voting for Christmas. The very moment he started to slip the fans would have been calling for his head in the hope of getting his number 2 instated.
It's interesting when you look back on successful management teams when sometimes the more experienced man is the number 2.
A good example of this for Charlton was when Benny Fenton mentored Mike Bailey in 1980/81. In retrospect I am sure Benny would have played a key role. It is a shame that we couldn't find a similar scenario for Deano.
I wonder if when they said they noticed a change in Holden, if it wasn't about results maybe it was the way he was dressed. He was wearing a different outfit for the Oxford game. I would be surprised if the billionaires had a dress code for Appleton.
I wonder if when they said they noticed a change in Holden, if it wasn't about results maybe it was the way he was dressed. He was wearing a different outfit for the Oxford game. I would be surprised if the billionaires had a dress code for Appleton.
It seems pretty obvious to me that Holden wanted to do things differently to Scott's way - and if the results had been there with a great start, Scott would've turned a blind eye: 'if it's not broke, don't fix it'.
But it was broken and getting worse.
Something had to be done to arrest the slide. And it was.
I wonder if when they said they noticed a change in Holden, if it wasn't about results maybe it was the way he was dressed. He was wearing a different outfit for the Oxford game. I would be surprised if the billionaires had a dress code for Appleton.
It seems pretty obvious to me that Holden wanted to do things differently to Scott's way - and if the results had been there with a great start, Scott would've turned a blind eye: 'if it's not broke, don't fix it'.
But it was broken and getting worse.
Something had to be done to arrest the slide. And it was.
I agree with you that something needed to happen. The results were very bad, and this regime are supposedly to be judged by results.
I wonder if when they said they noticed a change in Holden, if it wasn't about results maybe it was the way he was dressed. He was wearing a different outfit for the Oxford game. I would be surprised if the billionaires had a dress code for Appleton.
I wonder if when they said they noticed a change in Holden, if it wasn't about results maybe it was the way he was dressed. He was wearing a different outfit for the Oxford game. I would be surprised if the billionaires had a dress code for Appleton.
It seems pretty obvious to me that Holden wanted to do things differently to Scott's way - and if the results had been there with a great start, Scott would've turned a blind eye: 'if it's not broke, don't fix it'.
But it was broken and getting worse.
Something had to be done to arrest the slide. And it was.
It's funny how Holden, Adkins and Garner all went a bit loopy when it became clear they didn't get what they wanted or were promised.
Did Holden not get what he was promised then? Sounds more like they offered him extra help and he turned it down, and instead he wasn't delivering on what he promised, and got the sack for it
I reckon it was the fact he didn’t recognise he needed help and maybe from an older head that did for him. I’d suggested a number of times that he needed to bring in someone who had been there, done it, bought the tee shirt. Instead he was working with those already at the club.
He was offered Chris Powell as a mentor and said no. TBH, much as I respect SCP I can see why DH would baulk at having someone imposed above him.
But I agree he need a wiser, older head alongside him of his own choice.
He also needed some of the luck that MA is getting with injuries (Aneke, Leaburn) and the new signings earlier.
Do you know if Holden suggested an alternative or was it a case of powell being offered, Holden saying no and that was the end of the conversation
Sorry, don't know the answer to that.
Shame, I had a word with the mods and a promote was heading your way
Did Holden not get what he was promised then? Sounds more like they offered him extra help and he turned it down, and instead he wasn't delivering on what he promised, and got the sack for it
Look at the squad we had at the start of the season. None of them helped themselves but...
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Pearce posted the proud one, Holden quoted him and said great work Jason.
Always going to be holden him back.
AS - Andy Scott
JR - Jim Rodwell
HA - Heather Alderson (CAST)
CL - Christine Lawrie (Reminiscence Group)
JP - John Perkins (Valley Express)
LL - Lars Liljegren (Swedish Addicks)
Can mean anything can’t it?
Noticed the results would seem to be more comprehensible.
But I agree he need a wiser, older head alongside him of his own choice.
He also needed some of the luck that MA is getting with injuries (Aneke, Leaburn) and the new signings earlier.
The very moment he started to slip the fans would have been calling for his head in the hope of getting his number 2 instated.
A good example of this for Charlton was when Benny Fenton mentored Mike Bailey in 1980/81. In retrospect I am sure Benny would have played a key role. It is a shame that we couldn't find a similar scenario for Deano.
That said, I think Appleton is an upgrade.
I would be surprised if the billionaires had a dress code for Appleton.
But it was broken and getting worse.
Something had to be done to arrest the slide. And it was.
The results were very bad, and this regime are supposedly to be judged by results.