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    Won the ballot for day 4 at the oval… usually I’d be cautiously optimistic of getting to see a full day’s play. Under this England team, no chance! 
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    Won the ballot for day 4 at the oval… usually I’d be cautiously optimistic of getting to see a full day’s play. Under this England team, no chance! 
    Same here, pray for rain to wipe out a day earlier in the match!
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    Australia's men's cricket team has withdrawn from a series of upcoming matches against Afghanistan in protest over the ruling Taliban's restrictions on women and girls' education and employment. This has not gone down well with Rashid Khan


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    It's not all about you Rashid, look at the bigger picture

    im pretty sure most Afghan woman take pride in being able to get an education etc, well done cricket Australia.
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    Just got day 4 Oval Ashes tickets.
    Search best seats. (1-3) sold out. 
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    edited January 2023
    It really is a mystery to me as to what Jason Roy has done to earn a recall by England. He has looked out of sorts for a good while but, in the SAT20, he has looked worse than ever.

    In his previous innings, he did not seem to have any game plans whatsoever and if he did then he had no idea how to execute them - his strike rate of 23 with 3 runs off 13 balls, in the Power Play especially, was absolutely shocking. When he was eventually out, bowled by Viljeon, he was going back to a ball that he should have gone forward to.

    Today his mindset was "sweep everything" regardless of the pace, line or length of the ball. Markram, hardly the biggest spinning threat in world cricket, offered him a rank long hop which he duly dispatched for a boundary. Next ball was bowled fuller and wider and the same shot - misses ball and there is an attempted stumping. Third ball of the over, same shot again and he's bowled for 6 off 6 balls. 

    This is every single one of Roy's innings, for England and a number of franchises, in the last six months:

    6
    3
    33
    12
    13
    57*
    4
    5
    18
    33
    0
    6
    21
    20
    0
    0
    10
    0
    17
    20
    8
    14
    43
    41
    23
    0
    27
    0
    4

    Innings: 29
    Scores of under15: 17 
    Scores over 30: 5
    50s: 1
    100s: 0
    Total runs: 438
    Average: 15.64

    Yes Roy has the odd decent innings but surely that isn't enough and why, when we have such an abundance of up and coming talent and with a World Cup coming up, are we persisting with him and not taking the opportunity to blood and give experience to someone else against South Africa? 
     
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    Won the ballot for day 4 at the oval… usually I’d be cautiously optimistic of getting to see a full day’s play. Under this England team, no chance! 
    We've got day 4 at Edgbaston.

    Fully expecting to get halfway up there the day before and be listening to the match finish on TMS.

    4 of us going, one of them lives up there so we'll have to get him to suggest some alternative days out in Birmingham!
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    Sussex doing their bit for the Ashes. Wonder if Archer will be bowling at him in the nets?

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    Any other year I'd say good, if young English players can learn something playing alongside/against him, fine.

    But not an Ashes year.

    And of course he'd only want to come over for Ashes prep.
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    It really is a mystery to me as to what Jason Roy has done to earn a recall by England. He has looked out of sorts for a good while but, in the SAT20, he has looked worse than ever.

    In his previous innings, he did not seem to have any game plans whatsoever and if he did then he had no idea how to execute them - his strike rate of 23 with 3 runs off 13 balls, in the Power Play especially, was absolutely shocking. When he was eventually out, bowled by Viljeon, he was going back to a ball that he should have gone forward to.

    Today his mindset was "sweep everything" regardless of the pace, line or length of the ball. Markram, hardly the biggest spinning threat in world cricket, offered him a rank long hop which he duly dispatched for a boundary. Next ball was bowled fuller and wider and the same shot - misses ball and there is an attempted stumping. Third ball of the over, same shot again and he's bowled for 6 off 6 balls. 

    This is every single one of Roy's innings, for England and a number of franchises, in the last six months:

    6
    3
    33
    12
    13
    57*
    4
    5
    18
    33
    0
    6
    21
    20
    0
    0
    10
    0
    17
    20
    8
    14
    43
    41
    23
    0
    27
    0
    4

    Innings: 29
    Scores of under15: 17 
    Scores over 30: 5
    50s: 1
    100s: 0
    Total runs: 438
    Average: 15.64

    Yes Roy has the odd decent innings but surely that isn't enough and why, when we have such an abundance of up and coming talent and with a World Cup coming up, are we persisting with him and not taking the opportunity to blood and give experience to someone else against South Africa? 
     
    One person they should certainly consider is Will Jacks. He has looked absolutely superb in the SA20 on the same decks that batsmen such as Roy have so struggled on. He would also offer another spin option. The issue with Jacks, though, is that he hasn't played a 50 over game for almost four years! Covid and that silly domestic competition haven't helped but he won't be unique in terms of this lack of exposure. Which is why England need to take a look at him in a series such as the one coming up especially as he is in South Africa.
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    It really is a mystery to me as to what Jason Roy has done to earn a recall by England. He has looked out of sorts for a good while but, in the SAT20, he has looked worse than ever.

    In his previous innings, he did not seem to have any game plans whatsoever and if he did then he had no idea how to execute them - his strike rate of 23 with 3 runs off 13 balls, in the Power Play especially, was absolutely shocking. When he was eventually out, bowled by Viljeon, he was going back to a ball that he should have gone forward to.

    Today his mindset was "sweep everything" regardless of the pace, line or length of the ball. Markram, hardly the biggest spinning threat in world cricket, offered him a rank long hop which he duly dispatched for a boundary. Next ball was bowled fuller and wider and the same shot - misses ball and there is an attempted stumping. Third ball of the over, same shot again and he's bowled for 6 off 6 balls. 

    This is every single one of Roy's innings, for England and a number of franchises, in the last six months:

    6
    3
    33
    12
    13
    57*
    4
    5
    18
    33
    0
    6
    21
    20
    0
    0
    10
    0
    17
    20
    8
    14
    43
    41
    23
    0
    27
    0
    4

    Innings: 29
    Scores of under15: 17 
    Scores over 30: 5
    50s: 1
    100s: 0
    Total runs: 438
    Average: 15.64

    Yes Roy has the odd decent innings but surely that isn't enough and why, when we have such an abundance of up and coming talent and with a World Cup coming up, are we persisting with him and not taking the opportunity to blood and give experience to someone else against South Africa? 
     
    One person they should certainly consider is Will Jacks. He has looked absolutely superb in the SA20 on the same decks that batsmen such as Roy have so struggled on. He would also offer another spin option. The issue with Jacks, though, is that he hasn't played a 50 over game for almost four years! Covid and that silly domestic competition haven't helped but he won't be unique in terms of this lack of exposure. Which is why England need to take a look at him in a series such as the one coming up especially as he is in South Africa.
    They'll be giving him a rest before the test tour of NZ where he won't play because his bowling will be destroyed and we have better batting options in that format.

    I agree with you that he should be above Roy in the 50 over squad and rhat its crazy he hasn't played the format in years.
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    It really is a mystery to me as to what Jason Roy has done to earn a recall by England. He has looked out of sorts for a good while but, in the SAT20, he has looked worse than ever.

    In his previous innings, he did not seem to have any game plans whatsoever and if he did then he had no idea how to execute them - his strike rate of 23 with 3 runs off 13 balls, in the Power Play especially, was absolutely shocking. When he was eventually out, bowled by Viljeon, he was going back to a ball that he should have gone forward to.

    Today his mindset was "sweep everything" regardless of the pace, line or length of the ball. Markram, hardly the biggest spinning threat in world cricket, offered him a rank long hop which he duly dispatched for a boundary. Next ball was bowled fuller and wider and the same shot - misses ball and there is an attempted stumping. Third ball of the over, same shot again and he's bowled for 6 off 6 balls. 

    This is every single one of Roy's innings, for England and a number of franchises, in the last six months:

    6
    3
    33
    12
    13
    57*
    4
    5
    18
    33
    0
    6
    21
    20
    0
    0
    10
    0
    17
    20
    8
    14
    43
    41
    23
    0
    27
    0
    4

    Innings: 29
    Scores of under15: 17 
    Scores over 30: 5
    50s: 1
    100s: 0
    Total runs: 438
    Average: 15.64

    Yes Roy has the odd decent innings but surely that isn't enough and why, when we have such an abundance of up and coming talent and with a World Cup coming up, are we persisting with him and not taking the opportunity to blood and give experience to someone else against South Africa? 
     
    One person they should certainly consider is Will Jacks. He has looked absolutely superb in the SA20 on the same decks that batsmen such as Roy have so struggled on. He would also offer another spin option. The issue with Jacks, though, is that he hasn't played a 50 over game for almost four years! Covid and that silly domestic competition haven't helped but he won't be unique in terms of this lack of exposure. Which is why England need to take a look at him in a series such as the one coming up especially as he is in South Africa.
    I am not being flippant but does it matter for an opening batter to have not played 50 over games if they are playing plenty of T20 ones?   Especially the way England play and the depth of batting they have.  
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    edited January 2023
    Cafc43v3r said:
    It really is a mystery to me as to what Jason Roy has done to earn a recall by England. He has looked out of sorts for a good while but, in the SAT20, he has looked worse than ever.

    In his previous innings, he did not seem to have any game plans whatsoever and if he did then he had no idea how to execute them - his strike rate of 23 with 3 runs off 13 balls, in the Power Play especially, was absolutely shocking. When he was eventually out, bowled by Viljeon, he was going back to a ball that he should have gone forward to.

    Today his mindset was "sweep everything" regardless of the pace, line or length of the ball. Markram, hardly the biggest spinning threat in world cricket, offered him a rank long hop which he duly dispatched for a boundary. Next ball was bowled fuller and wider and the same shot - misses ball and there is an attempted stumping. Third ball of the over, same shot again and he's bowled for 6 off 6 balls. 

    This is every single one of Roy's innings, for England and a number of franchises, in the last six months:

    6
    3
    33
    12
    13
    57*
    4
    5
    18
    33
    0
    6
    21
    20
    0
    0
    10
    0
    17
    20
    8
    14
    43
    41
    23
    0
    27
    0
    4

    Innings: 29
    Scores of under15: 17 
    Scores over 30: 5
    50s: 1
    100s: 0
    Total runs: 438
    Average: 15.64

    Yes Roy has the odd decent innings but surely that isn't enough and why, when we have such an abundance of up and coming talent and with a World Cup coming up, are we persisting with him and not taking the opportunity to blood and give experience to someone else against South Africa? 
     
    One person they should certainly consider is Will Jacks. He has looked absolutely superb in the SA20 on the same decks that batsmen such as Roy have so struggled on. He would also offer another spin option. The issue with Jacks, though, is that he hasn't played a 50 over game for almost four years! Covid and that silly domestic competition haven't helped but he won't be unique in terms of this lack of exposure. Which is why England need to take a look at him in a series such as the one coming up especially as he is in South Africa.
    I am not being flippant but does it matter for an opening batter to have not played 50 over games if they are playing plenty of T20 ones?   Especially the way England play and the depth of batting they have.  
    I think it does in the sense that there are slight differences between the formats not least the fact that the initial PP is 10 overs and opening batsmen can't always, depending on the deck, necessarily go "step/hit" from the off and for the duration. Despite the length of our batting line up, we do not want Buttler, for example, coming into bat inside those first 10 overs in the knowledge that he only has two or three frontline batsmen to come. Being 55-0 is a far better platform than 80-3. 

    Having said that, the fact is that Jacks has only played two T20 internationals in total so the more white ball exposure the better it is for him. Giving him another opportunity in the upcoming 50 over series serves that purpose and the fact that it is 50 overs offers him even better experience. Let's not forget that Buttler with Bairstow or Hales will be the openers in T20Is so Jacks, with Salt potentially ahead of him too in that format, may not get many goes in the foreseeable future in the shortest form. So why not bring him in for Roy? 
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    With the downgrading of the Royal London 50 over cup with its clash with the 100, it will become common for talented English white ball players to come through having hardly played any 50 over matches.

    Jordan Cox for example has played ONE 50 over match in his career.
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    With the downgrading of the Royal London 50 over cup with its clash with the 100, it will become common for talented English white ball players to come through having hardly played any 50 over matches.

    Jordan Cox for example has played ONE 50 over match in his career.
    Indeed though the form that Cox is in at the moment he won't be playing many England T20 matches in the near future - his scores in the SA20 have been 5, 0, 1, 13 & 0 as opposed to those of Jacks 56, 34, 16, 92 & 6
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    Not been impressed by Cox ..been very pleasantly surprised by Jacks..
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    The 50 over comp is basically 2XI and whatever overseas you've got around for that bit of the summer. Think Pujara got something like 4 hundreds and averaged 102 for Sussex. 
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    edited January 2023
    It really is a mystery to me as to what Jason Roy has done to earn a recall by England. He has looked out of sorts for a good while but, in the SAT20, he has looked worse than ever.

    In his previous innings, he did not seem to have any game plans whatsoever and if he did then he had no idea how to execute them - his strike rate of 23 with 3 runs off 13 balls, in the Power Play especially, was absolutely shocking. When he was eventually out, bowled by Viljeon, he was going back to a ball that he should have gone forward to.

    Today his mindset was "sweep everything" regardless of the pace, line or length of the ball. Markram, hardly the biggest spinning threat in world cricket, offered him a rank long hop which he duly dispatched for a boundary. Next ball was bowled fuller and wider and the same shot - misses ball and there is an attempted stumping. Third ball of the over, same shot again and he's bowled for 6 off 6 balls. 

    This is every single one of Roy's innings, for England and a number of franchises, in the last six months:

    6
    3
    33
    12
    13
    57*
    4
    5
    18
    33
    0
    6
    21
    20
    0
    0
    10
    0
    17
    20
    8
    14
    43
    41
    23
    0
    27
    0
    4

    Innings: 29
    Scores of under15: 17 
    Scores over 30: 5
    50s: 1
    100s: 0
    Total runs: 438
    Average: 15.64

    Yes Roy has the odd decent innings but surely that isn't enough and why, when we have such an abundance of up and coming talent and with a World Cup coming up, are we persisting with him and not taking the opportunity to blood and give experience to someone else against South Africa? 
     
    Roy's misery goes on - out for 4 off 8 balls. Kent's George Linde got him out this time but that isn't really the story because his dismissal sums up the state of mind that Roy is currently in. In the PP, Roy elects to go "in to out" over extra and plants it straight down the throat of one of the only two players outside the ring. Ironically, the catcher was Sam Curran, Roy's Surrey and England teammate - one would think that Roy would know that he was there waiting! 
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    The ECB are getting a bit worried that their flagship comp isn't being recognised as such. First they lose their principal sponsor Cazoo and then find that they have to offer extra incentives to players, who are already centrally contracted, to play!

    https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/jonny-bairstow-ben-stokes-among-england-players-to-be-offered-incentives-to-play-in-men-s-hundred-1354714?fbclid=IwAR21gFBP1Vz2CE241ZIaijPUzbUuRxCdlHh9XZJE2y3hwE14QBv8Ga_wdPA
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    tbf its more because cazoo has nosedived as business rather than any fundamental opposition to the tournament,
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    tbf its more because cazoo has nosedived as business rather than any fundamental opposition to the tournament,
    Saw they'd lost something ridiculous like 97% of their stock price and basically pulled out of Europe entirely. Sports sponsorships will be the first to go in that kind of situation. 

    Although that's The Hundred and the 50 Over competition both looking for new sponsors now. 
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    tbf its more because cazoo has nosedived as business rather than any fundamental opposition to the tournament,
    I'm amazed they have any money left at all. They sponsor seemingly everything
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    Cinch still seem to be splashing the cash, they're now sponsoring the Chris Evans Breakfast Show. I haven't seem so many of the Rylan adverts on TV though.
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    Jacks was, admittedly, dropped early on the boundary but, opening once again today, this time against an attack comprising of George Linde, Kagiso Rabada, Jofra Archer, Sam Curran, Rashid Khan and Odin Smith, he hit 62 off 27 balls 

    Jacks is the top scorer in the SA20 with 270 runs at an average of 38.57 (7 innings/no not outs) and strike rate of 201.49. In second place is Buttler with 234 runs (7 inns/1 not out) at an almost identical average of 39.00 but a vastly inferior strike rate of 121.87. 
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    SA have set ENG 299 to win
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    SA are about 50 below par on this road.
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    151-1 off 20ish

    Malan out for 59

    Roy currently 87 not out
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    Back in the day I used to love going to watch the one day games
    Benson and hedges 
    Gillette  etc
    This game is a perfect example of how good 50 over cricket is.
    Unfortunately the Hundred has ruined it in England as now it's basically a reserve fixture. 

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    edited January 2023
    During commentary this morning the comms team got talking about Archer and what he has been doing to aid his recuperation following his several operations.
    Evidently he has been spending a great deal of his time at his home in Barbados where he has bought five Pitbull Terrier’s.
    Having heard that, I have to say he gets 0-10 from me, who would want one of those nutty bastards let alone five.
    I think that’s very weird…..IMHO almost psychotic! 🧐
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