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England v France - Match Thread

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  • moutuakilla
    moutuakilla Posts: 7,567
    edited December 2022
    Is it just me or are ITV interviewers deliberately antagonistic?
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,864
    Football is a cruel game

    An the problem is, it only lasts for 90mins (99mins)

    England will always be one of the best teams in the world. Always 

    We probably just won't ever be thee best 
  • Usually I am full of loathing for the team that beats us …. But if it’s France v Argies, I still think I would want France to win 
  • Even getting back to 2 - 2 I think France looked more likely to do something in extra time. Saka, odd taking him off, but perhaps he was spent. Good thing about being CAFC, used to disappointment. 
  • Just shows the luck you need to win a tournament. People lay into Southgate but one missed opportunity turns it all. Club managers get a chance to resolve that.
    We played well. There’s just something in our DNA that hasn’t got that extra bit of steel, winning mentality, whatever it is. Gallant losers. 

    When you’re not got enough then you can’t do too much about it. But It’s 2-3 tournaments now we’ve had a real chance but just can’t get things over then line.

    So gutted 
    Most of our best players are under 25. The academy system, much as we hate having our best youngsters picked off, is churning out lots and lots of talented players, and even our young players are already battle hardened and experienced in big games in big tournaments. 

    England have got a serious chance at at least the next 3 tournaments. We’ll win one eventually. 
  • Is it just me or are ITV interviewers deliberately antagonist?
    Gabriel Clarke is a useless prick
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,973
    I absolutely hope Southgate stays on. We ain’t getting better. If there was they’d be on 300k a week in the prem.
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,476
    DamoNorthStand said:
    Usually I am full of loathing for the team that beats us …. But if it’s France v Argies, I still think I would want France to win 

    I don't like either but would rather see Messi happy than Deschamps.
  • Laddick01
    Laddick01 Posts: 6,362
    Even getting back to 2 - 2 I think France looked more likely to do something in extra time. Saka, odd taking him off, but perhaps he was spent. Good thing about being CAFC, used to disappointment. 
    Saka for Grealish I could understand. 

    Sterling coming in was baffling. Hasn't had the minutes and just didn't fit the situation.


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  • Southgate’s record is terrible when you look at the sides we’ve faced. Yes we got to the last WC semi and a euros final but we had very easy routes to both (bar a weak German side at the euros). 

    Get rid 
    Yeah lets go back to a McLaren, Hodgson, Capello - Or do you think the FA will ask the public who should be appointed next?

    But of course the naive approach is we'll always hire better eh!! 
    Yeah I have no confidence that his successor would be chosen wisely tbf but I can’t help but feel he’s not getting the most out of this group
  • meldrew66
    meldrew66 Posts: 2,561
    So unlucky. Best team lost. We bossed the current World Champions and left Mbappe without a single shot on target. Feel gutted for Harry Kane. It takes bottle and earns utmost respect to put your head on the block like he does. No blame, just respect. I hope the country puts an arm around him.
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,864
    edited December 2022
    F*ck football....

    (For a few months)
  • ITV talking about that ball from Griezmann for the 2nd goal.

    Shouldn't have been on the pitch given he was on a yellow and made that foul from behind on the half way line earlier!! 
  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 10,957
    We had the better of the game for the most part, but France are absolutely deadly when they attack at speed. That's why they win.
  • moutuakilla
    moutuakilla Posts: 7,567
    Anyone got any suggestions for new distractions from Charlton? This World Cup was great for that!
  • supaclive
    supaclive Posts: 6,514
    @AFKABartram

    I felt Shaw was caught out of position too often, but that's being ultra critical.
  • WHAddick
    WHAddick Posts: 1,146
    Ise9addick said:
    England have a fairly young team which should be getting towards their prime at the next Euros 
    Agreed…consoled my son with the same. Most should still be there all being well
  • The most frustrating thing, I can’t think of a single one of our players that didn’t have a good game, and I didn’t actually think France were great shakes. 
    They played like England in the Euro Final

    Got their goal, sat back and let us break them down - The trouble is when we got that goal, they instantly managed to raise their tempo and eventually took control back for five minutes, which included the Giroud goal.

    Impressive really, as when you see a team sitting back for so long, you expect them to struggle to raise their game back to the levels required, but France almost did it with the flick of a light switch.
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  • Laddick01 said:
    Even getting back to 2 - 2 I think France looked more likely to do something in extra time. Saka, odd taking him off, but perhaps he was spent. Good thing about being CAFC, used to disappointment. 
    Saka for Grealish I could understand. 

    Sterling coming in was baffling. Hasn't had the minutes and just didn't fit the situation.


    Sterling seemed to be playing wide right, even right wing back when he came on, which was odd
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,474
    Usually I am full of loathing for the team that beats us …. But if it’s France v Argies, I still think I would want France to win 
    That’s a given for any English fan.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,832
    The most frustrating thing, I can’t think of a single one of our players that didn’t have a good game, and I didn’t actually think France were great shakes. 
    I think that is because of how well we played. 

    Don’t think France will have a tougher game. 
  • We've definitely come a long way since the dog days of 2010 -2016.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,241
    Kane's penalty has handed the world cup on a plate to the French IMO, they'll have the nous to play against and beat the Moroccans without being blasé and resting players, and I think they'll beat the Argies too.

    I said before he took it, I would have chosen someone else to take it, the odds on him missing it/it being saved went up considerably on the second penalty, and he didn't even give a chance for Lloris to save it
  • MrOneLung said:
    The most frustrating thing, I can’t think of a single one of our players that didn’t have a good game, and I didn’t actually think France were great shakes. 
    I think that is because of how well we played. 

    Don’t think France will have a tougher game. 
    They need to rely on Walker taking Mbappe out of his pocket ready for Morocco
  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 10,957
    France Argentina would be a very watchable final but I'd expect France to win by 2 or 3
  • I absolutely hope Southgate stays on. We ain’t getting better. If there was they’d be on 300k a week in the prem.
    Step aside Southgate who has never won anything in his managerial career and enter Chris Powell who has.  I think he is the brains behind England's resurgence anyway.
  • Gary Poole
    Gary Poole Posts: 1,874
    Gutted, but at least after watching this current England side lose and go out, I am left feeling they gave their all and competed well against a very good opposition not always the case with previous groups. Was a very close game and was won and lost by fine margins. And still overall a young squad getting lots of tournament experience gives hope for the future.

    Oh well back to watching the fall and fall of Charlton with the only consolation left being that I’m not Welsh. Baa baa
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Usually I am full of loathing for the team that beats us …. But if it’s France v Argies, I still think I would want France to win 
    That’s a given for any English fan.
    Why?

    I might be missing something here, but for neither of the G.O.A.T players to not win the world cup would be a travesty. 

    Though Morocco get my backing!