My go-to reporter for all things VAR is Dale Johnson. He’s used the word “meaningless” to describe the above still.
He is suggesting that the image is effectively ~fake news~ as it’s been created retrospectively with a less than perfect camera angle on a marginal decision, compared to FIFA who are paying millions to have this done with artificial intelligence.
His point of view is that the semi-automated technology used is completely free of human decision making, including understanding which defender is the last defender. And this the system is going to be more reliable than someone drawing some lines on a dodgy still image after the fact.
The computer said NO. Welcome to CL, David Walliams. So you don't think there can be mistakes with technology?
That goal being given offside is a joke and makes a mockery of football. Anyone who watched that in real time on TV knows the only person offside was Messi. The positive from the 'offside' was the drama of the two good goals from Saudi Arabia and the shock victory.
Argentina will still get to 6 points and Qualify so no real harm done plus it gave us an exciting match.
The ‘computer’ in this instance has gone through rigorous testing and used in trials at other tournaments prior to being rolled out here in the World Cup.
To assume the system somehow missed the defender on the near side is almost insulting to the mega-intelligent people behind the technology.
It’s been retweeted as fact so many times on Twitter at this point that it would almost be nice to have an official statement released. But the chances of that are little to none.
Anyway, go ahead and let your confirmation bias run riot. It’s absolutely conclusively offside from a dodgy snapshot and some hand drawn lines.
Anyone who thinks anything but the simplest computer programme, e.g. one that adds 2 and 2, can't have errors and is infallible is delusional. Just ask those sub-post office managers.
I'm not saying this programme isn't good but no amount of rigorous testing makes it perfect.
Of course it’s not 100%, nothing ever is, but it’s going to be very very close. Or they would’ve thrown this out in favour of sticking with having the video officials drawing the lines manually as before.
Computers are not perfect and can throw up errors, but we’re not comparing computers to 100%, we’re comparing them to humans.
When the alternative is human error, I think I know which is going to be correct more often over time!
I was particularly responding to this "To assume the system somehow missed the defender on the near side is
almost insulting to the mega-intelligent people behind the technology.". To assume a programme couldn't miss the defender is hubris of the highest order on the part of the people behind the technology and, by extension, anyone who supports them uncritically because they're 'mega-intelligent' (which sounds like something Trump would come up with).
Ok I suppose it’s possible? I haven’t looked at the inner working of this automated system to tell you exactly how it works and determines where it draws the offside line.
However I’d be shocked if it wasn’t one of the first edge cases that they tested. It wasn’t a particular complicated situation for a computer to handle…
Where I could see the technology cocking up is a situation like the offside in the Ecuador match. There were a lot of odd variables involved in that particular incident.
But for something as straight forward as picking up which defender is actually the closest to their own goal line, the technology wouldn’t be fit for purpose if it failed at that first huddle.
Ha. Now you've jinxed it! What odds on a 0-0 please? lol
You can have 20.00 on the Betfair Exchange. There used to be a much used system where some backers would back at that sort of price and then trade out after 20 minutes. Providing there hadn't been a goal of course.
Germany's young star, Jamal Musiala, when at Chelsea, played for England's youth teams and later for the U21s. He was educated at Whitgift School, Croydon, as was Callum Hudson-Odoi. One is at the World Cup for Germany and the other is also playing in Germany but rejected the opportunity to play for Ghana despite not being picked by England.
Germany don't look as commanding at the back without Klaus Augenthaler. They're lacking some potency up front too having failed to find a suitable replacement for Bierhoff.
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Where I could see the technology cocking up is a situation like the offside in the Ecuador match. There were a lot of odd variables involved in that particular incident.
Sorry my vocab isn’t up to scratch.
What odds on a 0-0 please? lol
You can have 20.00 on the Betfair Exchange. There used to be a much used system where some backers would back at that sort of price and then trade out after 20 minutes. Providing there hadn't been a goal of course.
cue boring 0-0 now…
Kin eck