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Who ever it is needs his own staff and the final say on recruitment.
Else it doesn't matter who it is.4 -
Loverly sandwiches 🥪The Red Robin said:
why exactly? What’s he achieved recently that’s so amazing?Bilko said:Warburton for me.1 -
He is up to 5"2 if standing on a stoolMendonca In Asdas said:What’s Dennis Wise up to these days?9 -
paulfox said:why would Harris be what we need, sacked at millwall after a good initial spell, sound familiar??relegated in the end with Gills, just what we need. Let’s not forget Millwall legend. He’s not that good it can be over looked surely."Harris then again took over as caretaker boss on 10 March 2015, when Holloway was sacked.[22] By the time Harris took over, Millwall were already virtually, whilst not mathematically, relegated, however Harris went on to win 2 and draw 4 of his 9 games in charge, almost keeping the Lions in the Championship. On 28 April, the Lions were officially relegated to League One following Rotherham United's 2–1 win against Reading,[23] however, Harris was confirmed as Millwall's permanent manager less than 24 hours later,[24] with his assistant being his 2004 FA Cup Final teammate, David Livermore.In his first full season as manager Harris led Millwall to the League One Play-Off Final against Barnsley at Wembley after finishing 4th in the League One table and overcoming Bradford City 4–2 on aggregate in the Play – Off Semi-Finals. The Lions lost the play-off final 3–1 to Barnsley.In 2016–17 season Harris again led Millwall to Wembley after they finished 6th in the League One table and overcame Scunthorpe United 3–2 in the Play-Off semi finals. Millwall won the play-off Final against Bradford City 1–0 to win promotion to the Championship. He also led Millwall to the F.A Cup quarter finals after knocking out 3 Premier League teams Bournemouth, Watford and Premier League Champions Leicester City before losing 6–0 against Tottenham Hotspur in the quarter finals."
Not mentioned is the 8th placed finish during his first season in the Championship.
Plenty above to suggest he may be just what you're looking for.7 -
Sums up exactly where we are right now.Big_Bad_World said:
Of course you would, comradeJamesSeed said:I’d probably be happy with Neil Harris.
’Probably’ happy with a one dimensional hoofball merchant who is a Millwall legend.0 -
Nope!!😂Big_Bad_World said:paulfox said:why would Harris be what we need, sacked at millwall after a good initial spell, sound familiar??relegated in the end with Gills, just what we need. Let’s not forget Millwall legend. He’s not that good it can be over looked surely."Harris then again took over as caretaker boss on 10 March 2015, when Holloway was sacked.[22] By the time Harris took over, Millwall were already virtually, whilst not mathematically, relegated, however Harris went on to win 2 and draw 4 of his 9 games in charge, almost keeping the Lions in the Championship. On 28 April, the Lions were officially relegated to League One following Rotherham United's 2–1 win against Reading,[23] however, Harris was confirmed as Millwall's permanent manager less than 24 hours later,[24] with his assistant being his 2004 FA Cup Final teammate, David Livermore.In his first full season as manager Harris led Millwall to the League One Play-Off Final against Barnsley at Wembley after finishing 4th in the League One table and overcoming Bradford City 4–2 on aggregate in the Play – Off Semi-Finals. The Lions lost the play-off final 3–1 to Barnsley.In 2016–17 season Harris again led Millwall to Wembley after they finished 6th in the League One table and overcame Scunthorpe United 3–2 in the Play-Off semi finals. Millwall won the play-off Final against Bradford City 1–0 to win promotion to the Championship. He also led Millwall to the F.A Cup quarter finals after knocking out 3 Premier League teams Bournemouth, Watford and Premier League Champions Leicester City before losing 6–0 against Tottenham Hotspur in the quarter finals."
Not mentioned is the 8th placed finish during his first season in the Championship.
Plenty above to suggest he may be just what you're looking for.0 -
He'd love Stockley and Stockley would love him. Get a striker in to run the channels like Gregory used to do for us (Morison did before his legs went all JJ) and the job's a good unValley11 said:
Sums up exactly where we are right now.Big_Bad_World said:
Of course you would, comradeJamesSeed said:I’d probably be happy with Neil Harris.
’Probably’ happy with a one dimensional hoofball merchant who is a Millwall legend.
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I'm preparing myself for an appointment on a par with the worst that the Belgian threw at us.5
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Bielsa- if he can get our players to run around like that it would be a miracle.Also he likes to live in the community and I notice the Seabay Fish and chip shop has been vacant.9
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Sandgaard Jnr0
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Trying to get his money from Jimenez?Mendonca In Asdas said:What’s Dennis Wise up to these days?0 -
Neil Warnock would have loved a season of him0
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With your love of an Aussie surely Rolph Harris would be your choiceJamesSeed said:I’d probably be happy with Neil Harris. 2 -
What about Chris Hughton?2
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Not sure, spoiled his CV a bit at Forest.4
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Think we will see a coach from a bigger club taking on the role. Someone like Beale or with that background. Seems to be the modern way.0
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My sad self would often visit the Forest forum when he was manager there to see how our old friend Lyle was getting on - and I would often read the same criticisms of him that JJ was getting here.ForeverAddickted said:What about Chris Hughton?
Obvious has more of a successful body of work to look back on than JJ. But does appear to be a little hit and miss. Makes me think that a lot of things have to align for most managers to be semi successful.1 -
The one consolation is Nixon frequently talks shit that doesn't pan out (see numerous mentions on the Shenanigans Bitesize) so probably won't happen.Henry Irving said:Look away now if you have a heart condition or a nervous disposition
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Despite what he has said about the appointment being quick or slow - he will already have a short list of probably 1 ! - because he’s not going to risk appointing a manager just before pre season who then blames player recruitment for failure.
I’d be surprised if we don’t get a foreign manager1 -
I’m not totally opposed to the ‘manager doesn’t pick the players’ culture if the ownership is going all in on it, rather than flip flopping based on the latest trends. It’s exactly what MK are doing so it can work.
You set the club vision and then you go and recruit both players and coaches that fit that vision. The idea being that you pair them together so that if you lose a player or the manager, you have continuity and not too much changes overall.
What following this strategy is likely to result in is an unknown name coming in. You can rule out almost everyone with previous experience at our level or above. Had you heard of Liam Manning prior to his work at MK? Or Rob Edwards at Forest Green?
I hope Sandgaard has a good handle on youth football in this country because that’s probably the best place to find someone who will accept this style of management.14 -
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JJ was in a weak position when trying to get appointed as TS was reluctant to take him. Hence the clause. Surely any established manager would just walk away from that small printCafc43v3r said:
Reserved for Jackson to get Thomas out of a corner that he put himself in.MattF said:Would we need to convince a prospective manager to take up one of these performance related contracts as well, or was that reserved for Jackson?0 -
AgreedCallumcafc said:I’m not totally opposed to the ‘manager doesn’t pick the players’ if the ownership is going all in on it, rather than flip flopping based on the latest trends. It’s exactly what MK are doing so it can work.
You set the club vision and then you go and recruit both players and coaches that fit that vision. The idea being that you pair them together so that if you lose a player or the manager, you have continuity and not too much changes overall.
What following this strategy is likely to result in is an unknown name coming in. You can rule out almost everyone with previous experience at our level or above. Had you heard of Liam Manning prior to his work at MK? Or Rob Edwards at Forest Green?
I hope Sandgaard has a good handle on youth football in this country because that’s probably the best place to find someone who will accept this style of management.
My big concern is the lack of knowledge within the club about the latest up and coming coaches. What does TS know about the coaches within the England youth setup, or at Big 6 clubs?0 -
ryan mason0
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I am not against it(though I am against appointing his own son as the head of it). But looking at our recruitment so far I wouldn’t say it is recruiting players for this style. It has worked at MK and FGR but both have been doing it for years and only just getting the rewards now. Sandgaard wants us top 2 next season so although it could be a good long term plan, will he have the patience?Callumcafc said:I’m not totally opposed to the ‘manager doesn’t pick the players’ if the ownership is going all in on it, rather than flip flopping based on the latest trends. It’s exactly what MK are doing so it can work.
You set the club vision and then you go and recruit both players and coaches that fit that vision. The idea being that you pair them together so that if you lose a player or the manager, you have continuity and not too much changes overall.
What following this strategy is likely to result in is an unknown name coming in. You can rule out almost everyone with previous experience at our level or above. Had you heard of Liam Manning prior to his work at MK? Or Rob Edwards at Forest Green?
I hope Sandgaard has a good handle on youth football in this country because that’s probably the best place to find someone who will accept this style of management.0 -
Rylan Clarke-Neal17
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Yes that is another factor to take into account. This could be a long, slow and painful process.NabySarr said:
I am not against it(though I am against appointing his own son as the head of it). But looking at our recruitment so far I wouldn’t say it is recruiting players for this style. It has worked at MK and FGR but both have been doing it for years and only just getting the rewards now. Sandgaard wants us top 2 next season so although it could be a good long term plan, will he have the patience?Callumcafc said:I’m not totally opposed to the ‘manager doesn’t pick the players’ if the ownership is going all in on it, rather than flip flopping based on the latest trends. It’s exactly what MK are doing so it can work.
You set the club vision and then you go and recruit both players and coaches that fit that vision. The idea being that you pair them together so that if you lose a player or the manager, you have continuity and not too much changes overall.
What following this strategy is likely to result in is an unknown name coming in. You can rule out almost everyone with previous experience at our level or above. Had you heard of Liam Manning prior to his work at MK? Or Rob Edwards at Forest Green?
I hope Sandgaard has a good handle on youth football in this country because that’s probably the best place to find someone who will accept this style of management.1 -
U23 coaches under the age of 50 working in Premier League 2…Callumcafc said:I hope Sandgaard has a good handle on youth football in this country because that’s probably the best place to find someone who will accept this style of management.
Brian Barry-Murphy : Man City
Elliot Dickman : Newcastle
Jamie Collins : Wolves
Kevin Betsy : Arsenal
Deon Burton : West Brom (ex-Charlton…)
Andy Reid : Forest (ex-Charlton…)
Alan Neilson : Norwich
Paddy McCarthy : Crystal Palace (ex-Charlton…)
Andrew Taylor : Leeds
Neil Wood/Paul McShane : Man Utd
Andrew Crofts : Brighton (ex-Charlton…)
Mark Delaney : Aston Villa
Mark Tinkler : Middlesbrough
Andy Myers : Chelsea
Noel Hunt : Reading
Pat Lyons : Derby1 -
Good start, but which ones play out from the back with a high press?Callumcafc said:
U23 coaches under the age of 50 working in Premier League 2…Callumcafc said:I hope Sandgaard has a good handle on youth football in this country because that’s probably the best place to find someone who will accept this style of management.
Brian Barry-Murphy : Man City
Elliot Dickman : Newcastle
Jamie Collins : Wolves
Kevin Betsy : Arsenal
Deon Burton : West Brom (ex-Charlton…)
Andy Reid : Forest (ex-Charlton…)
Alan Neilson : Norwich
Paddy McCarthy : Crystal Palace (ex-Charlton…)
Andrew Taylor : Leeds
Neil Wood/Paul McShane : Man Utd
Andrew Crofts : Brighton (ex-Charlton…)
Mark Delaney : Aston Villa
Mark Tinkler : Middlesbrough
Andy Myers : Chelsea
Noel Hunt : Reading
Pat Lyons : Derby
Might be quicker to list those who don’t.1 -
Got to be someone that can deal with the low block. I'm fucking fed up with the high block wankers.11
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Not sure he’d take it. He’d probably see Gillingham to Charlton as a sideways step these days.Gravesend_Addick said:I know a lot of people would be against it due to Millwall links, but I've begrudgingly admired Neil Harris for a long time. A good coach, who is exactly the sort of character we need to sort out this mess.
It'll probably be some unheard of Danish guy though23
