The statement makes it clear that better searches are needed when entering the ground.
Preventing flares getting into the ground will get rid of the problem.
Never going to happen, searching thousands of people would be impossible and the delays would be huge. Plus people have rights now, would need male and female officers/stewards to do the searching.
The statement makes it clear that better searches are needed when entering the ground.
Preventing flares getting into the ground will get rid of the problem.
Never going to happen, searching thousands of people would be impossible and the delays would be huge. Plus people have rights now, would need male and female officers/stewards to do the searching.
The statement makes it clear that better searches are needed when entering the ground.
Preventing flares getting into the ground will get rid of the problem.
Never going to happen, searching thousands of people would be impossible and the delays would be huge. Plus people have rights now, would need male and female officers/stewards to do the searching.
They could use sniffer dogs.
They could but if I am correct the club pay for policing don't they, how much will a police officer and a sniffer dog at each turnstile cost?
Broadly speaking good news but not in favour of automatic bans.
It takes away any discretion from clubs and takes no account of the circumstances.
A permanent criminal record seems OTT as well
And that is nothing to do with clubs or the EFL anyway.
Only courts can convict people of criminal offences and they are only permanent for very serious offences.
For the sake of clarity, this is not entirely true. Since 2006 all criminal records remain on the police database until an individual is 100 years old. So, that's about as permanent as you can get for 99.7% of males! Around one third of male residents of the UK have a criminal record.
I suspect the concept of a criminal record not being "permanent" is being conflated with the concept of a "spent" conviction, which is entirely different. In any event, some employers are entitled to access to spent convictions from the DBS. (I also had to undergo an enhanced security check - what used to be known as positive vetting - for my job and was interviewed by a spook.)
The statement makes it clear that better searches are needed when entering the ground.
Preventing flares getting into the ground will get rid of the problem.
Never going to happen, searching thousands of people would be impossible and the delays would be huge. Plus people have rights now, would need male and female officers/stewards to do the searching.
They could use sniffer dogs.
They could but if I am correct the club pay for policing don't they, how much will a police officer and a sniffer dog at each turnstile cost?
Hmmm.
No need to spend any extra money.
I can think of someone who's often seen sniffing around the turnstiles already .....
Whilst I’ve always disliked fans running on the pitch during or after the game, if smoke/pyro is not thrown on the pitch I haven’t got a problem with it , adds to the atmosphere. I’ll just have to go abroad to get my pyro fix.
Whilst I’ve always disliked fans running on the pitch during or after the game, if smoke/pyro is not thrown on the pitch I haven’t got a problem with it , adds to the atmosphere. I’ll just have to go abroad to get my pyro fix.
Don’t need a ban but that is the law if caught a football banning order takes place but that’s if he’s had details taken etc was all good natured so I don’t see the issue
Whilst I’ve always disliked fans running on the pitch during or after the game, if smoke/pyro is not thrown on the pitch I haven’t got a problem with it , adds to the atmosphere. I’ll just have to go abroad to get my pyro fix.
I would accept flares/smoke bombs more if the people lighting them actually kept them next to them instead of throwing it elsewhere in the crowd, which is incredibly dangerous and cowardly.
In terms of the scale of "crime", running on to the pitch to celebrate a goal with your players is wrong, but clearly far less serious than when fans start getting involved with opposition players, which happened far too much during the playoffs.
Don’t need a ban but that is the law if caught a football banning order takes place but that’s if he’s had details taken etc was all good natured so I don’t see the issue
Don’t need a ban but that is the law if caught a football banning order takes place but that’s if he’s had details taken etc was all good natured so I don’t see the issue
We'll all just go on the pitch then 👍
What about when it was for “Roland out” suppose that was fine
Don’t need a ban but that is the law if caught a football banning order takes place but that’s if he’s had details taken etc was all good natured so I don’t see the issue
We'll all just go on the pitch then 👍
What about when it was for “Roland out” suppose that was fine
That was also against the law.
The play offs last season were a car crash for the EFL in terms of crowd behaviour, they felt had to take steps to stop the pitch invasions, they not the club have decided from this season there would be zero tolerance and if you do go on they will get the law enforced.
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Preventing flares getting into the ground will get rid of the problem.
I suspect the concept of a criminal record not being "permanent" is being conflated with the concept of a "spent" conviction, which is entirely different. In any event, some employers are entitled to access to spent convictions from the DBS. (I also had to undergo an enhanced security check - what used to be known as positive vetting - for my job and was interviewed by a spook.)
I have an enhanced DBS but never been interviewed by a spook.
Shame asked I would have asked for a job.
No need to spend any extra money.
I can think of someone who's often seen sniffing around the turnstiles already .....
No idea who he is and he shouldn't have been on the pitch but should he now get a ban, be prosecuted and get a criminal record?
Or should clubs have some discretion over what action to take?
There's got to be some deterrent.
https://www.charltonafc.com/news/club-statement-accrington-stanley
Would have been cheaper to buy a player sponsorship and have a hug after the lunch
The play offs last season were a car crash for the EFL in terms of crowd behaviour, they felt had to take steps to stop the pitch invasions, they not the club have decided from this season there would be zero tolerance and if you do go on they will get the law enforced.