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Summer 2022 transfer rumours (Gilbey loan confirmed p513, a signing falls through last minute p541)

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  • Not surprised that McG is possibly on the move. Although I'd want experienced cover when Wollacott goes to the World Cup , not sure I'd be comfortable with Harness in goal for a month 
  • Where’s Chuks ? Any prospect of seeing him before Christmas?
  • Wollacott's distribution hasn't especially stood out when compared to McG's, it's more the way he dominates his area. He's far more commanding, and seems more athletic too.
    This 100%
  • I’ve always felt our natural level were the years I really started going to games on my own …. Early to mid 90s. Mid table championship with moments of challenging the play offs (think the Nelson, Leaburn, Balmer, Robson, Whyte etc years).

    I recall reading an article on this very point a few years ago, and both us and Barnsley were occupying 30th in the pyramid. Fitting how we are both in League One now, so I'm assuming their fans will be saying similar to ours. Come on Barnsley, let's go up together and quieten those down at Hillsboro. 
  • Swindon fans view 

    Mckirdy, still young, but been around, rarely done anything anywhere, with an attitude of a premier league footballer and the ability of a mid table league 2 team. Last season was a fluke.


    You can’t fluke an entire season so that’s nonsense, he got 23 goals in 44 games most from wide right.

    I don’t doubt he’s got attitude issues that’s probably obvious to most, I reckon he has aspirations elsewhere and is half arsed interested.  
    There have been many one season wonders in football. Berahino had a great season at West brom then scored about 20 goals in the next 5 years. Michu at Swansea was amazing one season, did nothing after that and within 3-4 years he'd retired at the age of 31. I remember Michael Ricketts having a decent season for Bolton and getting an England cap, he did nothing of note after.

    Not saying McKirdy is a one season wonder, as it could just as easily be his break out season but he's 25 and has only had that one good season. I'd still be happy if we signed him though, but a 2 year deal with an option of a third just in case he turns out shit and we're not tied in for years.
  • rather McKirdy than Stockton personally
  • rather McKirdy than Stockton personally
    Realistically, I feel like McKirdy is also a lot more likely than Stockton too.

    As I've already said on here before, Stockton impressed me at The Valley last season. Even taking away the bumper amount of goals he scored and trying to evaluate him on that performance alone, it was the hold-up play, runs and intelligent movement that impressed me most. Stockley just lacks that for me, and Washington was the one player we did have that could play in that way. I see Stockton as a slower, but more clinical upgrade to Washington, who would fit very well into Garnerball. Apparently Rotherham are still sniffing around and likely still very much out of our budget - it's a shame, because I'd have made him our top target.

    McKirdy has the aggy nature that winds up away fans, and that niggle can be handy in this league. If he can bring another 10-15 L1 goals, he could fit in very nicely. Age is better than Stockton, but much more volatile. Discipline is a bit of a concern, with 11 yellows last season. If Garner knows him well enough, then it's just about if the numbers work for TS.

    I'll be happy if we get any striker/forward/goal-scorer tbh. Stockton remains the one I'd love us to get, but I'd be fine with us having McKirdy.
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  • Wollacott it is the best of the keepers we have on the books. If he is absent during the World Cup, Harness is no worse than Mac in my opinion.
    It might help everybody if Mac moves on, a modest fee would be a welcome bonus.
  • Given the season he had last year, it makes you wonder why Stockton hasn’t moved on from Morecambe to a bigger club. There has been very few rumors about him going anywhere not just charlton. Perhaps the asking price is too high given the one year wonder risk
  • Wollacott's distribution hasn't especially stood out when compared to McG's, it's more the way he dominates his area. He's far more commanding, and seems more athletic too.
    To be fair, he does seem to release the ball a bit quicker than mcg
  • I think Tyreece Simpson will be the striker we sign….and could be the player who Garner mentioned he had been chasing / working on for a long time. Had a big impact at Swindon last year but hasn’t even featured on the bench for Ipswich this season.

    Think him and JRS could be the two we are close on.
    Those 2 would be amazing signings. Not sure if Simpson will happen though, can’t see TS spending a fee on a striker when he’s already spent 800k on that position in the last year 
  • Wollacott has been outstanding in the two games so far. He made superb saves up at Accrington and similarly yesterday. I’m not bothered too much if he has a preference for punching sometimes as long as he’s good at it. Punching the ball is far more common these days and many GK’s are very good at it. Wollacott is also not the tallest so getting something on the ball when under challenge might be his aim rather than catching and dropping. To me he looks very athletic and mobile and so far hasn’t put a foot wrong. 
    This. Feel much more confident with him in goal. Also, I like his positioning when we were defending corners yesterday. Rather than stay rooted to his line, he was on the edge of the 6 yard box. Of course that might just be down to the corners Derby take, so will be interesting to see if he continues to take that position. 
  • NabySarr said:
    I think Tyreece Simpson will be the striker we sign….and could be the player who Garner mentioned he had been chasing / working on for a long time. Had a big impact at Swindon last year but hasn’t even featured on the bench for Ipswich this season.

    Think him and JRS could be the two we are close on.
    Those 2 would be amazing signings. Not sure if Simpson will happen though, can’t see TS spending a fee on a striker when he’s already spent 800k on that position in the last year 
    I can see TS spending a fee. Striker is the one position in any team you really do get what you pay for and nearly all strikers under contract will command a fee.

    Paul Benson cost us a fee, even Josh Davison apparently went for a fee. And anyone out of contract has surely been snapped up by now. 

    That said while I can see a fee being paid for the right player I'd still say a loan is the most likely option.
  • NabySarr said:
    I think Tyreece Simpson will be the striker we sign….and could be the player who Garner mentioned he had been chasing / working on for a long time. Had a big impact at Swindon last year but hasn’t even featured on the bench for Ipswich this season.

    Think him and JRS could be the two we are close on.
    Those 2 would be amazing signings. Not sure if Simpson will happen though, can’t see TS spending a fee on a striker when he’s already spent 800k on that position in the last year 
    I can see TS spending a fee. Striker is the one position in any team you really do get what you pay for and nearly all strikers under contract will command a fee.

    Paul Benson cost us a fee, even Josh Davison apparently went for a fee. And anyone out of contract has surely been snapped up by now. 

    That said while I can see a fee being paid for the right player I'd still say a loan is the most likely option.
    Unless it's a "frozen out" older championship player or a 1st time loan kid I can't see why anyone would want to loan us a striker.

    The only way I can see us getting a striker significantly better/more suited than Stockley is buying one or getting, and keeping Aneke fit.  I can't see either happening.

    We will end up playing like Brazil in 82, with our very own Serginho.  That's one for the kids! 
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  • seth plum said:
    Wollacott it is the best of the keepers we have on the books. If he is absent during the World Cup, Harness is no worse than Mac in my opinion.
    It might help everybody if Mac moves on, a modest fee would be a welcome bonus.
    Think that it is too early for Harness. I wasn't impressed with him against Ipswich. He needs a loan at National League level.

    Will we able to have a temporary loan keeper given the unique circumstances?

    I feel sure a Premiership club would be happy to loan us a keeper knowing that they would get at least two league matches as well as FA Cup and JPT first team games.
  • rather McKirdy than Stockton personally
    Bring in McKirdy and Simpson and get rid of Stockley and we would be in a far stronger position. 
    It won't happen though. 
  • When does the emergency loan criteria for a keeper kick in?

    If MacGillivray goes how many "senior" keepers would we have during the WC?

    None, 1 or more?  I don't really know what the definition is. 
  • We can always request they stop the league while Wollacott is away.
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    When does the emergency loan criteria for a keeper kick in?

    If MacGillivray goes how many "senior" keepers would we have during the WC?

    None, 1 or more?  I don't really know what the definition is. 
    On second thoughts maybe we could get a normal loan. They would play a  significant number of games. It will be interesting to see who plays Tuesday. If McG is off then we probably don't want him to be Cup tied.
  • Richard J said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    When does the emergency loan criteria for a keeper kick in?

    If MacGillivray goes how many "senior" keepers would we have during the WC?

    None, 1 or more?  I don't really know what the definition is. 
    On second thoughts maybe we could get a normal loan. They would play a  significant number of games. It will be interesting to see who plays Tuesday. If McG is off then we probably don't want him to be Cup tied.
    I don't think anyone signing MacGillivray will have aspirations in the League Cup....
  • edited August 2022
    If Wollacott leaves for the WC during November and MacGillivray is no longer here, we could apply for an emergency loan goalkeeper to cover his absence for the month.
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