Sheffield Wednesday are sponsored by their owners company so will have a significantly inflated income through that.
Didn’t they get done for that though? When he set up a taxi company and used it to sponsor them even though the company didn’t own any taxis
Yes I think it was part of the reason for their punishment but why else would they still have Chansiri as the sponsor unless he was putting more money in than they'd receive from a regular sponsorhsip? I don't think there's much doubt that Wednesday will continue to bend the rules, they'll just be more careful about it this time.
Sheffield Wednesday are sponsored by their owners company so will have a significantly inflated income through that.
Didn’t they get done for that though? When he set up a taxi company and used it to sponsor them even though the company didn’t own any taxis
IIRC, a "cab for Carbone" arrived at half time during a Wednesday match some years ago, but I couldn't tell you the name of the Cab firm, and it predated Mr Chansiri's time.
So that is where we are. Fucking Wycombe could have a bigger budget than us . There average attendance is a4 blokes , a dog and 30 sheep in the pasture at the cack of the ground.
If Wycombe do have a bigger budget than us, apart from being gifted a large sum by their owner, there are other factors. Unless it's been recently modified, this is how the system is applied:
The EFL also operates a Parachute Payment system within the EFL Leagues and the National League. From 2016-17 season onwards payments are:
Clubs relegated from the EFL Championship receive 11.1% of the Basic Award payment to Championship clubs for one season.
Clubs relegated from EFL League One receive 12.6% of the Basic Award payment to League One clubs for one season.
Clubs relegated from EFL League Two receive 100% of the equivalent Basic Award payment made to League Two clubs in the first year following relegation, and 50% of the equivalent Basic Award payment made to League Two clubs in the second year following relegation.[10]
Solidarity payments
Clubs within the EFL who are not eligible for Parachute Payments receive Solidarity Payments. These are calculated as a percentage of the third year Parachute Payment amount a club relegated from the Premier League would receive (currently 20% of the equally shared element of Premier League broadcasting rights). This percentage drops progressively for each EFL league – 30% in the EFL Championship, 4.5% in EFL League One, and 3% in EFL League Two.[6]
I still remember when he first started signing players for fees and putting people on long-term contracts and it felt brilliant, since Roland hadn't done that in forever.
So why is it now not enough? And what will be enough?
I still remember when he first started signing players for fees and putting people on long-term contracts and it felt brilliant, since Roland hadn't done that in forever.
So why is it now not enough? And what will be enough?
Roland paid a fee and a long term contract with it in his last window he owned us.....
From what we know about other teams were fourth highest. Don't think we are third right now but it's a moving target how much other teams spend of course. Other than that it is really nobody's business....
Spoke to ts we have 4th biggest budget in league 1
Why do you feel the need to run and ask him things like this, it's pretty sad to be honest
"Run and ask him"???
People have been debating where our budget sits so someone asked the owner who said 4th.
That sounds about right to me but it depends on your view on TS (and Chev) and his honesty.
Not sure why it's "sad" to add info to the debate.
Thomas will tell you what ever you want to here, doesn't mean it's true, there's no way we have the 4th biggest budget, not with derby, Sheffield Wednesday, Barnsley, Ipswich, Peterborough, Wycombe, Bolton and Portsmouth, so I would imagine that another lie
Spoke to ts we have 4th biggest budget in league 1
Why do you feel the need to run and ask him things like this, it's pretty sad to be honest
"Run and ask him"???
People have been debating where our budget sits so someone asked the owner who said 4th.
That sounds about right to me but it depends on your view on TS (and Chev) and his honesty.
Not sure why it's "sad" to add info to the debate.
Thomas will tell you what ever you want to here, doesn't mean it's true, there's no way we have the 4th biggest budget, not with derby, Sheffield Wednesday, Barnsley, Ipswich, Peterborough, Wycombe, Bolton and Portsmouth, so I would imagine that another lie
That, or we're massively overpaying current squad members
Anyway back to talking about transfers instead of budgets. We know we are looking to upgrade at wide forward/winger and fullback, my biggest fear is that we aren’t looking at another center half. I just don’t think some combination of innis, O’Connell and Lavelle is good enough to get promoted.
Anyway back to talking about transfers instead of budgets. We know we are looking to upgrade at wide forward/winger and fullback, my biggest fear is that we aren’t looking at another center half. I just don’t think some combination of innis, O’Connell and Lavelle is good enough to get promoted.
Garner mentioned bringing in one or two attacking options, I don’t think he confirmed we’re after a full back? I think a CB is more likely given we only have three senior players there.
Anyway back to talking about transfers instead of budgets. We know we are looking to upgrade at wide forward/winger and fullback, my biggest fear is that we aren’t looking at another center half. I just don’t think some combination of innis, O’Connell and Lavelle is good enough to get promoted.
Garner mentioned bringing in one or two attacking options, I don’t think he confirmed we’re after a full back? I think a CB is more likely given we only have three senior players there.
And perhaps he'll be a CB who can also comfortably cover at LB?
Anyway back to talking about transfers instead of budgets. We know we are looking to upgrade at wide forward/winger and fullback, my biggest fear is that we aren’t looking at another center half. I just don’t think some combination of innis, O’Connell and Lavelle is good enough to get promoted.
Garner mentioned bringing in one or two attacking options, I don’t think he confirmed we’re after a full back? I think a CB is more likely given we only have three senior players there.
Even worse at full-back though isn't it. We have 2 senior fit full-backs, one of whom left his previous club because he didn't want to play there.
Anyway back to talking about transfers instead of budgets. We know we are looking to upgrade at wide forward/winger and fullback, my biggest fear is that we aren’t looking at another center half. I just don’t think some combination of innis, O’Connell and Lavelle is good enough to get promoted.
Garner mentioned bringing in one or two attacking options, I don’t think he confirmed we’re after a full back? I think a CB is more likely given we only have three senior players there.
And perhaps he'll be a CB who can also comfortably cover at LB?
Best we can hope for is a strong loan for a striker - ideally someone that can hold the ball up and run channels / be a threat in behind , like the guy with pink hair used to. Ideally someone that can play left or right too
Why is it the best we can hope for exactly?
Because we clearly don’t have the money to buy a good league 1 striker .
You're right.
WE don't have the money for anything.
Thomas Sandgaard however, will be willing to find the money as he's shown a few times.
Everyone* wanted Stockley permanently and we paid a reasonable fee for him and he's done reasonably well for us, though it is now clear that his hip/back condition has severely hampered him.
(*except me, I didn't like his lack of running, but prior to his injury last season he showed more willing)
Are we not allowed to refer to Charlton as “we” anymore?
I don’t doubt that Sandgaard put up plenty of money last year but he doesn’t seem to want to do that this summer - I don’t blame him for that .
He said we’re short of defenders with Egbo being out injured….so full back cover would seem more likely.
Completely get the early concerns about O’Connell but hopefully he will come good. If not we have Lavelle, Ness, Elerewe (on recall) and even Clare as an option to play there instead. I would also like another CB (bearing in mind Inniss could breakdown at any min) but we atleast have more options there than we have at full back. If Sessegnon gets injured we have to play a winger (Claydon) there and if Clare gets injured we have to play a CB at RB (Ness or Barker etc).
Anyway back to talking about transfers instead of budgets. We know we are looking to upgrade at wide forward/winger and fullback, my biggest fear is that we aren’t looking at another center half. I just don’t think some combination of innis, O’Connell and Lavelle is good enough to get promoted.
Garner mentioned bringing in one or two attacking options, I don’t think he confirmed we’re after a full back? I think a CB is more likely given we only have three senior players there.
Even worse at full-back though isn't it. We have 2 senior fit full-backs, one of whom left his previous club because he didn't want to play there.
Not really, you don’t bring in another full back just because one has a short term injury.
Anyway back to talking about transfers instead of budgets. We know we are looking to upgrade at wide forward/winger and fullback, my biggest fear is that we aren’t looking at another center half. I just don’t think some combination of innis, O’Connell and Lavelle is good enough to get promoted.
Garner mentioned bringing in one or two attacking options, I don’t think he confirmed we’re after a full back? I think a CB is more likely given we only have three senior players there.
And perhaps he'll be a CB who can also comfortably cover at LB?
You’d think so, but that doesn’t fit with the idea of attacking full backs.
Clayden may well play more than many expect, and like Clare we shouldn’t be fixed to the idea that his best position is in midfield. It’s not uncommon for wingers to convert to full back.
We need a left footed defender who can cover both left centre back and left back, should there be injuries in either position / to push O'Connell and Sessegnon on to better things.
Anyway back to talking about transfers instead of budgets. We know we are looking to upgrade at wide forward/winger and fullback, my biggest fear is that we aren’t looking at another center half. I just don’t think some combination of innis, O’Connell and Lavelle is good enough to get promoted.
Garner mentioned bringing in one or two attacking options, I don’t think he confirmed we’re after a full back? I think a CB is more likely given we only have three senior players there.
Even worse at full-back though isn't it. We have 2 senior fit full-backs, one of whom left his previous club because he didn't want to play there.
Not really, you don’t bring in another full back just because one has a short term injury.
But we have 3 senior CB's at the club who are all fit. We have 2 full-backs plus Clare, with one of them injured. So the situation is similar with full-backs needing greater attention in the short-term.
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If Wycombe do have a bigger budget than us, apart from being gifted a large sum by their owner, there are other factors. Unless it's been recently modified, this is how the system is applied:
The EFL also operates a Parachute Payment system within the EFL Leagues and the National League. From 2016-17 season onwards payments are:
Solidarity payments
Clubs within the EFL who are not eligible for Parachute Payments receive Solidarity Payments. These are calculated as a percentage of the third year Parachute Payment amount a club relegated from the Premier League would receive (currently 20% of the equally shared element of Premier League broadcasting rights). This percentage drops progressively for each EFL league – 30% in the EFL Championship, 4.5% in EFL League One, and 3% in EFL League Two.[6]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premier_League_parachute_and_solidarity_payments#:~:text=Clubs relegated from the EFL,One clubs for one season.
So why is it now not enough? And what will be enough?
People have been debating where our budget sits so someone asked the owner who said 4th.
That sounds about right to me but it depends on your view on TS (and Chev) and his honesty.
Not sure why it's "sad" to add info to the debate.
Completely get the early concerns about O’Connell but hopefully he will come good. If not we have Lavelle, Ness, Elerewe (on recall) and even Clare as an option to play there instead. I would also like another CB (bearing in mind Inniss could breakdown at any min) but we atleast have more options there than we have at full back. If Sessegnon gets injured we have to play a winger (Claydon) there and if Clare gets injured we have to play a CB at RB (Ness or Barker etc).
Clayden may well play more than many expect, and like Clare we shouldn’t be fixed to the idea that his best position is in midfield. It’s not uncommon for wingers to convert to full back.
Thought not.
Seriously though you can look at the accounts on Companies House Web site and they will give you a good idea.