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  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,445
    golfaddick said:
    Looking at the clip above I would say that the ball comes off him. Yes, he is making a forward movement but he was not intentionally playing the ball. His movement meant the the ball bounced off him & went towards Benzema . Unless he think he was clearing or passing the ball with his knee.
    What about the first tackle? That's a clear 'playing of the ball'. 
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,593
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,755
    edited May 2022
    Leeds_Addick said:
    Callumcafc said:
    Benzema was offside when Valverde played it... shouldn’t matter whether it bounces off 1, 2, 3 or 4 defenders on its way through IMO.
    The Madrid player doesn’t touch it
    If true then there’s no possible way it can be offside. Benzema can’t be offside if he was the last Madrid player to touch the ball.

    But I called it as a Valverde touch in real time and no replays I’ve seen since have convinced me otherwise…
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Callumcafc said:
    Benzema was offside when Valverde played it... shouldn’t matter whether it bounces off 1, 2, 3 or 4 defenders on its way through IMO.
    Valverde doesn't play it though. 
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,973
    So basically the only way it would never be offside is from a short back pass. Who intentionally plays an offside forward in.
  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,827
    ValleyGary said:
    golfaddick said:
    ValleyGary said:
    If it comes from a Liverpool forward deflection that’s a goal isn’t it? I don’t understand 
    Has to be deliberate.
    That’s a fucking joke 

    I suppose the logic to it would be that if you permitted deflections/ unintentional touches to keep it onside then you could just keep your striker up in the oppos half and just boot it at their last man who may be in your half and hope it deflects and runs on to your striker who would be onside...if that makes sense.
  • cafcpolo
    cafcpolo Posts: 3,811
    Leeds_Addick said:
    Callumcafc said:
    Benzema was offside when Valverde played it... shouldn’t matter whether it bounces off 1, 2, 3 or 4 defenders on its way through IMO.
    The Madrid player doesn’t touch it
    He absolutely does, comes off the bottom of his boot.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    ValleyGary said:
    So basically the only way it would never be offside is from a short back pass. Who intentionally plays an offside forward in.
    Well it's any deliberate play of the ball. I think I'm right in saying that had Fabinho gone in for the tackle and poked it towards Benzema it wouldn't have been offside but because Konate got their first and then it unintentionally came off Fabinho it's offside. I could of course be wrong, never know these days. 
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,445
    edited May 2022
    RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
    ValleyGary said:
    golfaddick said:
    ValleyGary said:
    If it comes from a Liverpool forward deflection that’s a goal isn’t it? I don’t understand 
    Has to be deliberate.
    That’s a fucking joke 

    I suppose the logic to it would be that if you permitted deflections/ unintentional touches to keep it onside then you could just keep your striker up in the oppos half and just boot it at their last man who may be in your half and hope it deflects and runs on to your striker who would be onside...if that makes sense.
    Wasn't the old rule if the deflection majorly changed the path of the ball, it wouldn't be offside? 

    Otherwise you're just punishing attackers for defensive mistakes. 
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,973
    RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
    ValleyGary said:
    golfaddick said:
    ValleyGary said:
    If it comes from a Liverpool forward deflection that’s a goal isn’t it? I don’t understand 
    Has to be deliberate.
    That’s a fucking joke 

    I suppose the logic to it would be that if you permitted deflections/ unintentional touches to keep it onside then you could just keep your striker up in the oppos half and just boot it at their last man who may be in your half and hope it deflects and runs on to your striker who would be onside...if that makes sense.
    But in the common sense real world that never happens naturally. Which is why UEFA struggled with it. I’m fact, football was fine with that rule until they interfered.
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  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,827
    SELR_addicks said:
    RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
    ValleyGary said:
    golfaddick said:
    ValleyGary said:
    If it comes from a Liverpool forward deflection that’s a goal isn’t it? I don’t understand 
    Has to be deliberate.
    That’s a fucking joke 

    I suppose the logic to it would be that if you permitted deflections/ unintentional touches to keep it onside then you could just keep your striker up in the oppos half and just boot it at their last man who may be in your half and hope it deflects and runs on to your striker who would be onside...if that makes sense.
    Wasn't the old rule if the deflection majorly changed the path of the ball, it wouldn't be offside? 

    Otherwise you're just punishing attackers for defensive mistakes. 
    Not sure mate. I'm normally about 5 years behind when it comes to  understanding rule changes!
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,445
    Justice. 
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,102
    Hala Madrid 
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    oooof
  • ISawLeaburnScore
    ISawLeaburnScore Posts: 9,779
    Crap from Alexander-Arnold that. He looked and knew he was there and still left him.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,445
    Alexander-Arnold showing why he doesn't start for England there. 
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    That's why Trent isn't the best English RB
  • SouthWest_Addicks
    SouthWest_Addicks Posts: 6,307
    As a English fan not impressed by Trent’s defending there at all.
  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,827
    Wow. 

    Don't have sky sports/ BT sports so unfortunately don't see a lot of european football but as predicted by some earlier on this thread it seems to be what Mardid's game plan was.

    Thought it looked off at first sight.
  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 5,512
    maybe it was offside




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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,288
    Id actually like to see the lines, thought he looked inches offside 
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,934
    ISawLeaburnScore said:
    Crap from Alexander-Arnold that. He looked and knew he was there and still left him.
    And that’s why he won’t start for England in Qatar
  • Andyessgee90
    Andyessgee90 Posts: 844
    Good play from Madrid that. TAA not defending the back post, shock. 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    soapboxsam said:
    Liverpool attack with 8 players, 
    Superb defending by Trent AA but Madrid could get behind them with one class long pass.

    They did you there TAA.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    cafcfan1990 said:
    That's why Trent isn't the best English RB
    There are 2 ahead of him in the pecking order - 1 if Walker plays RCB.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,839
    Really well worked goal 

    This Madrid is unusually functional for  Real team, working hard and defending as a team. A bit Mourinhoish.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,445
    Madrid clearly watched Man City play against Trent. He is prone to wingers running past him in behind. 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,755
    Ancelotti hates Liverpool
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    ricky_otto said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    That's why Trent isn't the best English RB
    There are 2 ahead of him in the pecking order - 1 if Walker plays RCB.
    Agreed. Plus James has the benefit of 3/5 at the back experience. Admittedly, Walker at RCB would help Trent as he'd naturally be able to cover but I'd still go James. 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Salah and Mane need to find a spark.
    Just like that Mo.

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