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Champions League 21/22

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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,839
    Madrid are aiming to keep it tight then bring on their attacking subs Chuks Aneke and Jonny Williams later in the second half
  • O-Randy-Hunt
    O-Randy-Hunt Posts: 10,631
    Joke of a decision. Liverpool player knocks it into another Liverpool player into Benzema's path. He can't be offside. 
    Bloody British referees. Useless ain't they.
  • kinveachyaddick
    kinveachyaddick Posts: 3,874
    unbelievable decision. Comes back off a Liverpool defender. Can’t be offside in a million years 
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,445
    edited May 2022
    Surely it becomes another passage of play when the Liverpool player blocks the pass and it moves away from goal?

    It then hits another Liverpool player to go back towards the goal again. 

    Benzema can't be offside from a passage of play that was already stopped. 
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,030
    That's a goal 100% 

    Liverpool defender knocked it into Benzema's path. 
    No way was it deliberate though 
    Why would any defender deliberately play it to a striker? Is this “only if it’s intentional” a new interpretation of the laws? 
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,832
    How was that not given ? 
  • O-Randy-Hunt
    O-Randy-Hunt Posts: 10,631
    Looks like Konate plays it against Fabinho which then rolled through to Benzema
  • Laddick01
    Laddick01 Posts: 6,362
    I would’ve thought that the second deflection is a new ‘play’ and therefore Liverpool have passed the ball to Benzema.

    Probably another rule that needs more clarification. 
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    I think I should have been a goal although with the rules it was correctly ruled out. Rule is stupid though, not sure it needed changing 
  • ISawLeaburnScore
    ISawLeaburnScore Posts: 9,779
    I thought it was offside. In the old days it would have been offside in 5 seconds and move on. Now we have an over-complicated rule set and a 4 minute VAR check. Then it looks onside because of the new phase of play, but it's called offside. Minutes wasted and we still feel like the wrong decision was reached even though it used to be right and wouldn't really have been controversial at all. Modern football eh.
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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,755
    Valverde hits it against Konate, then hits Fabinho and into the path of Benzema.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,445
    Joke of a decision. Liverpool player knocks it into another Liverpool player into Benzema's path. He can't be offside. 
    Bloody British referees. Useless ain't they.
    Terrible rule more like. 

    VAR just amplfies these nonsense laws. 
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,973
    Unless there’s a forward touch by a Madrid player then offside is irrelevant no? I don’t understand this intentional thing 
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,445
    So as long as you slide a bit as a defender when touching the ball, a forward behind you is always offside? 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,615
    If it comes from a Liverpool forward deflection that’s a goal isn’t it? I don’t understand 
    Has to be deliberate.
  • Andyessgee90
    Andyessgee90 Posts: 844
    If a ball is crossed into the box and it flicks a defenders head into an attackers path who would otherwise have been offside, then it’s play on isn’t it? Why is this any different?
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,755
    Benzema was offside when Valverde played it... shouldn’t matter whether it bounces off 1, 2, 3 or 4 defenders on its way through IMO.
  • EugenesAxe
    EugenesAxe Posts: 3,282
    Rio is thick isn’t he!
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,030
    Valverde hits it against Konate, then hits Fabinho and into the path of Benzema.
    The ball travelled in the direction that Fabinho hit it with his knee. It’s not a “deflection”. If you throw your leg towards a football, make connection with the football and the ball then travels in that same direction I can’t see how it’s a simple, unintentional, deflection. 
  • ISawLeaburnScore
    ISawLeaburnScore Posts: 9,779
    Benzema was offside when Valverde played it... shouldn’t matter whether it bounces off 1, 2, 3 or 4 defenders on its way through IMO.
    It's amazing how simple this can be if we let it!
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  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,445
    edited May 2022
    Benzema was offside when Valverde played it... shouldn’t matter whether it bounces off 1, 2, 3 or 4 defenders on its way through IMO.
    But it was cleared, the ball moved away from the goal. It should be a new passage of play. 

    If we take it further, lets say Konate knocked the ball out to the centre circle. Benzema runs back and makes a last ditch tackle to save a break, he's apparently offside still? 
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,973
    If it comes from a Liverpool forward deflection that’s a goal isn’t it? I don’t understand 
    Has to be deliberate.
    That’s a fucking joke 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,615
    Unless there’s a forward touch by a Madrid player then offside is irrelevant no? I don’t understand this intentional thing 
    You are not offside if the ball is "played" by the opposition. In this instance the ball was not "played" by the opposition but was "deflected" by him. There is a difference. Fabinho did not intentionally play the ball. 
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,445
    Unless there’s a forward touch by a Madrid player then offside is irrelevant no? I don’t understand this intentional thing 
    You are not offside if the ball is "played" by the opposition. In this instance the ball was not "played" by the opposition but was "deflected" by him. There is a difference. Fabinho did not intentionally play the ball. 
    Konate deliberately made a tackle and played the ball no? Otherwise it's a penalty. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,839
    Madrid will be happy with the scoreline as they have better impact players on the bench

    We saw that in the FA Cup final where Liverpool have a world class starting 11, but lack a bit of creative magic on the bench if it's scoreless.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,615
    Looking at the clip above I would say that the ball comes off him. Yes, he is making a forward movement but he was not intentionally playing the ball. His movement meant the the ball bounced off him & went towards Benzema . Unless he think he was clearing or passing the ball with his knee.
  • Leeds_Addick
    Leeds_Addick Posts: 4,698
    edited May 2022
    Benzema was offside when Valverde played it... shouldn’t matter whether it bounces off 1, 2, 3 or 4 defenders on its way through IMO.
    The Madrid player doesn’t touch it
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,748
    I was saying to my son during the first half that Liverpool have to make their possession count.

    My bet is on Real Madrid to win it now.