I’m not against Thomas Sandgaard, but not everything is black and white. I’ve reported what I’ve been told about the fee and have reason to think is true, having spoken to multiple people this week. I’m very confident that the coverage of the transfer in the new issue is fair to all sides based on the information I have.
I don’t support the owner, I support Charlton, and I’d say he’s done some good things and some daft ones.I’m currently pretty sceptical he will get us out of this division in the next two years, but things can change. So can opinions.
What about European football in 5?
I think it was premier league in 5. European football in 7. Either way they were ridiculous comments and gave plenty of supporters a false sence of reality.
I’m not against Thomas Sandgaard, but not everything is black and white. I’ve reported what I’ve been told about the fee and have reason to think is true, having spoken to multiple people this week. I’m very confident that the coverage of the transfer in the new issue is fair to all sides based on the information I have.
I don’t support the owner, I support Charlton, and I’d say he’s done some good things and some daft ones.I’m currently pretty sceptical he will get us out of this division in the next two years, but things can change. So can opinions.
What about European football in 5?
I think it was premier league in 5. European football in 7. Either way they were ridiculous comments and gave plenty of supporters a false sence of reality.
It didn't give me a false sense of reality it signalled that, as I wish I had employed under preceding ownerships, it's best to pay little attention to what is said and intended and focus on what materialises and is delivered.
I think that his showmanship/ enthusiastic personality means that his ownership has, and will, probably attracted greater critique than if he was a dour behind the scenes character not making scintillating statements.
We had that in Duchatelet and it was far from perfect and he was roundly criticised for it as part of the overall criticism of his stewardship (which ran deeper and was far more significant than merely his personality traits and communication style of course).
I’m not against Thomas Sandgaard, but not everything is black and white. I’ve reported what I’ve been told about the fee and have reason to think is true, having spoken to multiple people this week. I’m very confident that the coverage of the transfer in the new issue is fair to all sides based on the information I have.
I don’t support the owner, I support Charlton, and I’d say he’s done some good things and some daft ones.I’m currently pretty sceptical he will get us out of this division in the next two years, but things can change. So can opinions.
To be fair, have you ever not been sceptical that we’ll be promoted from League One?
I can only speak for myself, but all of our promotions have seemingly come against the odds.
In 12 seasons we’ve been promoted four times. Can’t see that 80/81 or 11/12 were against the odds. There are only about eight competitive clubs in L1, about four who can have a good year and a dozen no-hopers. We’re in the top four or five in spending power. Sure, Sunderland and Sheffield United in the past have got stuck and so can we, but when you travel around L1 you pretty soon realise we ought to be doing better than we are.
I’m not against Thomas Sandgaard, but not everything is black and white. I’ve reported what I’ve been told about the fee and have reason to think is true, having spoken to multiple people this week. I’m very confident that the coverage of the transfer in the new issue is fair to all sides based on the information I have.
I don’t support the owner, I support Charlton, and I’d say he’s done some good things and some daft ones.I’m currently pretty sceptical he will get us out of this division in the next two years, but things can change. So can opinions.
To be fair, have you ever not been sceptical that we’ll be promoted from League One?
I can only speak for myself, but all of our promotions have seemingly come against the odds.
In 12 seasons we’ve been promoted four times. Can’t see that 80/81 or 11/12 were against the odds. There are only about eight competitive clubs in L1, about four who can have a good year and a dozen no-hopers. We’re in the top four or five in spending power. Sure, Sunderland and Sheffield United in the past have got stuck and so can we, but when you travel around L1 you pretty soon realise we ought to be doing better than we are.
Perhaps against the odds may be the wrong phrasing when referring to 11/12, but hindsight is 20/20 and I can’t remember many being confident of promotion (let alone 101 points) after the 10/11 season.
I wouldn’t argue that we ought to be doing much better but it feels like we’re moving in the right direction off the pitch, admittedly there’s still some way to go. I didn’t have that feeling in 11/12 or 18/19.
I’m not against Thomas Sandgaard, but not everything is black and white. I’ve reported what I’ve been told about the fee and have reason to think is true, having spoken to multiple people this week. I’m very confident that the coverage of the transfer in the new issue is fair to all sides based on the information I have.
I don’t support the owner, I support Charlton, and I’d say he’s done some good things and some daft ones.I’m currently pretty sceptical he will get us out of this division in the next two years, but things can change. So can opinions.
What about European football in 5?
I think it was premier league in 5. European football in 7. Either way they were ridiculous comments and gave plenty of supporters a false sence of reality.
What gave me a false sense of reality was I honestly believed that with the squad we had last April, with a couple of good additions, could have got us promoted this season. At least the play offs.
We probably gives me a false sense of reality is the squad we have now, with a few quality additions would be good enough for the play offs as a minimum next season.
If the "black box" is now fixed and the faulty parts in the process removed. I'll be right. If it was beyond economic repair we will be here again this time next year.
I don’t support the owner, I support Charlton, and I’d say he’s done some good things and some daft ones.I’m currently pretty sceptical he will get us out of this division in the next two years, but things can change. So can opinions.
This paragraph is the key bit that I don't really get and I am honestly not having a go at your perspective which is very reasonable and certainly far more informed than me, but I really do not understand what is meant by this: how is it in the owner's gift to get us out of this division?
I see a lot of people posting similar analysis and I just do not understand what is meant in practical terms.
In theory, he could spend significantly more than anyone else in the division, which would not guarantee promotion but would certainly improve the odds, so is that what you mean? I do think he will continue to spend at a rate around the top club in the division, which should give us a chance.
He has stabilised the club so that I don't get the feeling that the players are worried about being paid week on week, and the two managers he has appointed will either work or not, but they don't seem to totally unreasonable choices.
So I feel I must be missing something obvious. What more is reasonably in his gift to do?
I don’t support the owner, I support Charlton, and I’d say he’s done some good things and some daft ones.I’m currently pretty sceptical he will get us out of this division in the next two years, but things can change. So can opinions.
This paragraph is the key bit that I don't really get and I am honestly not having a go at your perspective which is very reasonable and certainly far more informed than me, but I really do not understand what is meant by this: how is it in the owner's gift to get us out of this division?
I see a lot of people posting similar analysis and I just do not understand what is meant in practical terms.
In theory, he could spend significantly more than anyone else in the division, which would not guarantee promotion but would certainly improve the odds, so is that what you mean? I do think he will continue to spend at a rate around the top club in the division, which should give us a chance.
He has stabilised the club so that I don't get the feeling that the players are worried about being paid week on week, and the two managers he has appointed will either work or not, but they don't seem to totally unreasonable choices.
So I feel I must be missing something obvious. What more is reasonably in his gift to do?
I don't think it's being unreasonable to expect Sandgaard to get us promoted to the championship. How long that should take is up for debate. We can forget all the nonsense about premier league within 5 years Etc. But with the right people running the club and a couple of decent transfer windows I don't think it's unreasonable to expect Sandgaard to get us to the championship.
I don’t support the owner, I support Charlton, and I’d say he’s done some good things and some daft ones.I’m currently pretty sceptical he will get us out of this division in the next two years, but things can change. So can opinions.
This paragraph is the key bit that I don't really get and I am honestly not having a go at your perspective which is very reasonable and certainly far more informed than me, but I really do not understand what is meant by this: how is it in the owner's gift to get us out of this division?
I see a lot of people posting similar analysis and I just do not understand what is meant in practical terms.
In theory, he could spend significantly more than anyone else in the division, which would not guarantee promotion but would certainly improve the odds, so is that what you mean? I do think he will continue to spend at a rate around the top club in the division, which should give us a chance.
He has stabilised the club so that I don't get the feeling that the players are worried about being paid week on week, and the two managers he has appointed will either work or not, but they don't seem to totally unreasonable choices.
So I feel I must be missing something obvious. What more is reasonably in his gift to do?
I think that some of the criticism of TS has been a tad hysterical and lacking in perspective. Is he perfect? of course not. Has he made mistakes? Yes. Will he make more? Probably, because he is a human being just like everyone else. I also think that he cares about the club and will learn from his mistakes. He deserves our support because he saved our club during an existential crisis, as simple as that.
However, it is vitally important that we are able to look objectively at all aspects of the club that we all love, and VOTV has a great track record of doing just that, so it plays a very necessary and important function.
I don’t support the owner, I support Charlton, and I’d say he’s done some good things and some daft ones.I’m currently pretty sceptical he will get us out of this division in the next two years, but things can change. So can opinions.
This paragraph is the key bit that I don't really get and I am honestly not having a go at your perspective which is very reasonable and certainly far more informed than me, but I really do not understand what is meant by this: how is it in the owner's gift to get us out of this division?
I see a lot of people posting similar analysis and I just do not understand what is meant in practical terms.
In theory, he could spend significantly more than anyone else in the division, which would not guarantee promotion but would certainly improve the odds, so is that what you mean? I do think he will continue to spend at a rate around the top club in the division, which should give us a chance.
He has stabilised the club so that I don't get the feeling that the players are worried about being paid week on week, and the two managers he has appointed will either work or not, but they don't seem to totally unreasonable choices.
So I feel I must be missing something obvious. What more is reasonably in his gift to do?
As owner (or whoever is owner of us in the 3rd Division) he needs to ensure we have the right level of recruitment and appoint a manager who is good enough to get us promoted.
At this stage the 3 previous transfer windows have resulted in the marquee signing leaving in the next window. His one Managerial appointment went horribly wrong. He has tried to rectify both of these by booting Roddy/Adkins out. We need patience to see if the next appointments work.
We do not have a god given right to play in the 2nd tier, but this is the level at least we should be aiming for. The club simply does not work in the 3rd Division, the overheads are far too big. Anyone who buys this club has to get it out of this league very quickly otherwise they will simply burn more money.
I like TS from what I have seen and it goes without saying is a significant improvement on loads of previous owners, however this does not give him a free pass in terms of excepting we should be in the 3rd Division, and somehow I doubt he does not expect that either.
Re: the fee, what I don’t like is people saying it’s peanuts, how could we let him go for this fee etc, sold on the cheap not good enough
How can we know if it’s too low at this stage? People are so quick to say it’s not good enough, but it’s easy to sit on the side lines and comment on something we know very little about or have knowledge of.
The other thing to factor in is that TS is single handedly propping this club up financially. We don’t know how much money he has to fund us over the years, this is coming at considerable personal cost to him. Who are we to say what is and isn’t acceptable when he’s paying the bills. This is more a general comment, but two weeks ago he was ‘the dog’s bollocks’ for getting his guitar out in the pub, two weeks later he’s screwed us over and not done enough to get a bigger fee for a player who is very much an unknown quantity in the long term
Re: the fee, what I don’t like is people saying it’s peanuts, how could we let him go for this fee etc, sold on the cheap not good enough
How can we know if it’s too low at this stage? People are so quick to say it’s not good enough, but it’s easy to sit on the side lines and comment on something we know very little about or have knowledge of.
The other thing to factor in is that TS is single handedly propping this club up financially. We don’t know how much money he has to fund us over the years, this is coming at considerable personal cost to him. Who are we to say what is and isn’t acceptable when he’s paying the bills. This is more a general comment, but two weeks ago he was ‘the dog’s bollocks’ for getting his guitar out in the pub, two weeks later he’s screwed us over and not done enough to get a bigger fee for a player who is very much an unknown quantity in the long term
That is not really correct. Jackson said it was a substantial offer. Considering the money sloshing around in the Premiershit it is relatively speaking , peanuts. It isn't by any stretch of the imagination, substantial. Consider the young Rochdale player at a silly 10 million to Manchester City but later for some reason it fell through. He ended up at Watford I believe.
It is the consistency with which this club gets 'done over' by other clubs, decade after decade.
Relative to what though? Because I think that looking at it objectively, 1.6million for an 18 year old who has scored 2 goals in 7 games in League One is actually fairly substantial given its not that far short of the fee for Bonne, who got more goals at a higher level.
To Chelsea its pocket change, to Charlton, it balances for most of our incomings in the same window so substantial is not all that hyperbolic.
The gamble is on what Burstow's ceiling turns out to be, he could be a steal who goes on to be a Premier league striker or maybe he ends up a L1 journeyman.
If Jackson honestly believes £1.6m is a substantial amount from Chelsea for a young talented attacking prospect, we need to keep him away from transfers.
Should have made them wait until the summer, a full year and Burstow scoring 10 goals + would have upped his value. We also had multiple teams bidding on him.
The loan back is meaningless and I have no idea why Sandgaard sees that as such a big win in negotiation.
Re: the fee, what I don’t like is people saying it’s peanuts, how could we let him go for this fee etc, sold on the cheap not good enough
How can we know if it’s too low at this stage? People are so quick to say it’s not good enough, but it’s easy to sit on the side lines and comment on something we know very little about or have knowledge of.
The other thing to factor in is that TS is single handedly propping this club up financially. We don’t know how much money he has to fund us over the years, this is coming at considerable personal cost to him. Who are we to say what is and isn’t acceptable when he’s paying the bills. This is more a general comment, but two weeks ago he was ‘the dog’s bollocks’ for getting his guitar out in the pub, two weeks later he’s screwed us over and not done enough to get a bigger fee for a player who is very much an unknown quantity in the long term
That is not really correct. Jackson said it was a substantial offer. Considering the money sloshing around in the Premiershit it is relatively speaking , peanuts. It isn't by any stretch of the imagination, substantial. Consider the young Rochdale player at a silly 10 million to Manchester City but later for some reason it fell through. He ended up at Watford I believe.
It is the consistency with which this club gets 'done over' by other clubs, decade after decade.
I think done over may be attributable to some of the deals under RD, who couldn’t have cared less about the club, but I think we’ve had some fees that have been pretty decent considering. Bent to Spurs for £17m, Parker to Chelsea for £10m
The value of a player is determined by what the market is willing to pay for them. Were Chelsea ever going to pay more, who knows. Does TS have a massive loss making club to fund, yes. Is £1.6m a good price considering how much we lose, versus the unknown element of Burstow’s talent, TS probably thought so. Re: substantial, it’s completely subjective
Good Luck Mason Burstow. The road is long and hard to rise up the pecking order while staying fit and also as a striker being fed the ball when you are taking up good positions.
I would love to see a striker take time but get through to our first team. Our problem is we need him to progress but not too quickly or he get bought by Chelsea and is then loaned out for 5 years to the highest bidder.
This was my post from the 2/7/21 from page 1, the day Mason signed his contract.
Ollie Watkins went from Exeter to Brentford for £1.8m. He was an established EFL regular who had hit double figures in a season. The sell on clause then netted Exeter an extra £4m when he went to Villa.
I think £1.6m is reasonable given his career progress so far. If he does well, great, we might get more money. If he doesn’t then £1.6 is maybe about right.
Very disappointing fee. But then it's not my money. I assume the alleged Brentford offer was fake.
Or it wasn't in one lump sum, so maybe something like £1m now, £500k if they stay up this year, £500k if they stay up next year and the remaining £1m based on appearances and goals.
The salient point is the contract signed on the 2/7/21 by Mason Burstow was for at least 2 years ? So difficult to compare like for like when comparing fees paid for young players.
If you get transferred in January with 6 months left and the club know you won't sign another contract your transfer fee would be less than if you had another 18 months left. Mason had another 18 months or was it longer?
I went back to page one to find what I said on the day Mason signed and all the better judges thought he had a chance of making it because of his composure in and around the box and scoring.
I don’t support the owner, I support Charlton, and I’d say he’s done some good things and some daft ones.I’m currently pretty sceptical he will get us out of this division in the next two years, but things can change. So can opinions.
This paragraph is the key bit that I don't really get and I am honestly not having a go at your perspective which is very reasonable and certainly far more informed than me, but I really do not understand what is meant by this: how is it in the owner's gift to get us out of this division?
I see a lot of people posting similar analysis and I just do not understand what is meant in practical terms.
In theory, he could spend significantly more than anyone else in the division, which would not guarantee promotion but would certainly improve the odds, so is that what you mean? I do think he will continue to spend at a rate around the top club in the division, which should give us a chance.
He has stabilised the club so that I don't get the feeling that the players are worried about being paid week on week, and the two managers he has appointed will either work or not, but they don't seem to totally unreasonable choices.
So I feel I must be missing something obvious. What more is reasonably in his gift to do?
Not “in his gift” perhaps but if the club is well run and makes sensible decisions in transfer windows that will go a long way to getting us out of the division, as it has four times before. No disrespect to the smaller clubs, but how on earth are we in the bottom half of this table with our resources relative to, for example, Accrington Stanley? Only because bad decisions have been made, and recruitment is at the heart of it. It’s not just about how much you spend but how well you spend it. Duchatelet spent/wasted lots of money but he employed idiots to oversee it.
TS is far more hands on with the football side than any previous Charlton owner, including inserting his own son into the structure. I doubt that is a good thing but we’ll see.
Even Michael Gliksten got Charlton out of this division (twice) and like it or not the managers who did it were his appointments.
I don’t see the big deal to be honest. The club are happy we’ve got a substantial fee.
It doesn’t feel like a Parker or Gomez situation. He’s had a few good performances and now he’s off to a top 4 club for a big fee.
Reminds me of Carl Jenkinson to Arsenal.
Is it substantial though?
I think one of the things I’m most peed off about is I suspect in comparison to what could be paid to promising contracted youngsters, it won’t be. It just all seems too easy.
This was my thoughts on Monday and if true it’s just £1.6m (which now seems extremely probable) then worryingly that now seems more weighted to me as a quick cash grab sale, that having him signed to a contract for another 18 months was exactly there to avoid needing.
Can only view it as bad business unless the coaching team don’t think he’s going to improve, which I see as very unlikely.
Disappointing
The penny will drop sooner or later mate.
This doesn't speak of much prospect of the requisite summer rebuild or execution of a masterplan strategy to get us up and out of the league.
Actions speak louder than words and soundbites.
I thought if we had got £4m or silly money like that then it would be crazy to turn it down as that could buy the best part of a competitive squad especially if we keep him on loan and loan him even next season.
Feels like we've cashed in way too low when we don't have a massive line of goalscorers in our ranks.
Either potentially poor business or necessity which doesn't bode well for an optimistic outlook on promotion prospects next term or anytime soon.
31 August is the key date for me that I think we'll definitely know the ability and/ or appetite for a real promotion challenge in next couple of years but stuff like this doesn't do anything to allay my pessimism about our prospects.
Nope. That was the strategy last year & as we can see it didn't work.
At worst the key date should be when the season starts. So around Aug 1st.
At best when players come in for pre season training & pre-season friendlies are taking place, so early - mid July.
If we haven't got a replacement striker in by then you can say its another wasted season. You can laugh, but I was right last summer...........
Don't get this hysteria. Burstow has looked bang average to me so far. Yes, he's scored a couple of rebounds, but aside from his breakaway in the paint pot trophy that the keeper should've done better with, nothing that you could say has 'caught the eye'. He has played 3 league games this season, and despite his goals has the same average rating from the fans as Ben Watson! I'm sure there's potential, but the same hysteria would've happened if we'd sold Davison for 1.6m when he'd been banging them in for the U23s, whereas we'd take a quarter of that now and say 'good deal'.
sorry to say that I agree.
Must admit I've not seen any of him in the U23's but what I've seen from the Cup games & the recent league games he is not a "stand out" player. Again admittedly he's not really had much service but he's hardly been either banging them in or have shot after shot saved by the keeper.
will be interesting to see how many he scores between now & the end of the season. Not many is my bet.
I don’t see the big deal to be honest. The club are happy we’ve got a substantial fee.
It doesn’t feel like a Parker or Gomez situation. He’s had a few good performances and now he’s off to a top 4 club for a big fee.
Reminds me of Carl Jenkinson to Arsenal.
Is it substantial though?
I think one of the things I’m most peed off about is I suspect in comparison to what could be paid to promising contracted youngsters, it won’t be. It just all seems too easy.
This was my thoughts on Monday and if true it’s just £1.6m (which now seems extremely probable) then worryingly that now seems more weighted to me as a quick cash grab sale, that having him signed to a contract for another 18 months was exactly there to avoid needing.
Can only view it as bad business unless the coaching team don’t think he’s going to improve, which I see as very unlikely.
Disappointing
The penny will drop sooner or later mate.
This doesn't speak of much prospect of the requisite summer rebuild or execution of a masterplan strategy to get us up and out of the league.
Actions speak louder than words and soundbites.
I thought if we had got £4m or silly money like that then it would be crazy to turn it down as that could buy the best part of a competitive squad especially if we keep him on loan and loan him even next season.
Feels like we've cashed in way too low when we don't have a massive line of goalscorers in our ranks.
Either potentially poor business or necessity which doesn't bode well for an optimistic outlook on promotion prospects next term or anytime soon.
31 August is the key date for me that I think we'll definitely know the ability and/ or appetite for a real promotion challenge in next couple of years but stuff like this doesn't do anything to allay my pessimism about our prospects.
Nope. That was the strategy last year & as we can see it didn't work.
At worst the key date should be when the season starts. So around Aug 1st.
At best when players come in for pre season training & pre-season friendlies are taking place, so early - mid July.
If we haven't got a replacement striker in by then you can say its another wasted season. You can laugh, but I was right last summer...........
Some of the positive spin does make my smile. If Roland had done this, people would be up in arms! Actually, the Grant and Pope deals were very similar. Both sold for a similar fee, but with unusually high sell on fees. We've already seen the benefit of Karlans one and I imagine will see the benefit of pope's in the summer, when burnley drop to the championship. At the end of the day it's the owners decision, but it doesn't make it any less annoying for us lot.
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European football in 7.
Either way they were ridiculous comments and gave plenty of supporters a false sence of reality.
I think that his showmanship/ enthusiastic personality means that his ownership has, and will, probably attracted greater critique than if he was a dour behind the scenes character not making scintillating statements.
We had that in Duchatelet and it was far from perfect and he was roundly criticised for it as part of the overall criticism of his stewardship (which ran deeper and was far more significant than merely his personality traits and communication style of course).
We probably gives me a false sense of reality is the squad we have now, with a few quality additions would be good enough for the play offs as a minimum next season.
If the "black box" is now fixed and the faulty parts in the process removed. I'll be right. If it was beyond economic repair we will be here again this time next year.
How long that should take is up for debate.
We can forget all the nonsense about premier league within 5 years Etc.
But with the right people running the club and a couple of decent transfer windows I don't think it's unreasonable to expect Sandgaard to get us to the championship.
However, it is vitally important that we are able to look objectively at all aspects of the club that we all love, and VOTV has a great track record of doing just that, so it plays a very necessary and important function.
Long may it continue.
At this stage the 3 previous transfer windows have resulted in the marquee signing leaving in the next window. His one Managerial appointment went horribly wrong. He has tried to rectify both of these by booting Roddy/Adkins out. We need patience to see if the next appointments work.
We do not have a god given right to play in the 2nd tier, but this is the level at least we should be aiming for. The club simply does not work in the 3rd Division, the overheads are far too big. Anyone who buys this club has to get it out of this league very quickly otherwise they will simply burn more money.
I like TS from what I have seen and it goes without saying is a significant improvement on loads of previous owners, however this does not give him a free pass in terms of excepting we should be in the 3rd Division, and somehow I doubt he does not expect that either.
How can we know if it’s too low at this stage? People are so quick to say it’s not good enough, but it’s easy to sit on the side lines and comment on something we know very little about or have knowledge of.
To Chelsea its pocket change, to Charlton, it balances for most of our incomings in the same window so substantial is not all that hyperbolic.
The gamble is on what Burstow's ceiling turns out to be, he could be a steal who goes on to be a Premier league striker or maybe he ends up a L1 journeyman.
Should have made them wait until the summer, a full year and Burstow scoring 10 goals + would have upped his value. We also had multiple teams bidding on him.
The loan back is meaningless and I have no idea why Sandgaard sees that as such a big win in negotiation.
The value of a player is determined by what the market is willing to pay for them. Were Chelsea ever going to pay more, who knows. Does TS have a massive loss making club to fund, yes. Is £1.6m a good price considering how much we lose, versus the unknown element of Burstow’s talent, TS probably thought so. Re: substantial, it’s completely subjective
This was my post from the 2/7/21 from page 1, the day Mason signed his contract.
I think £1.6m is reasonable given his career progress so far. If he does well, great, we might get more money. If he doesn’t then £1.6 is maybe about right.
If you get transferred in January with 6 months left and the club know you won't sign another contract your transfer fee would be less than if you had another 18 months left. Mason had another 18 months or was it longer?
I went back to page one to find what I said on the day Mason signed and all the better judges thought he had a chance of making it because of his composure in and around the box and scoring.
TS is far more hands on with the football side than any previous Charlton owner, including inserting his own son into the structure. I doubt that is a good thing but we’ll see.
Even Michael Gliksten got Charlton out of this division (twice) and like it or not the managers who did it were his appointments.
At worst the key date should be when the season starts. So around Aug 1st.
At best when players come in for pre season training & pre-season friendlies are taking place, so early - mid July.
If we haven't got a replacement striker in by then you can say its another wasted season. You can laugh, but I was right last summer...........
Must admit I've not seen any of him in the U23's but what I've seen from the Cup games & the recent league games he is not a "stand out" player. Again admittedly he's not really had much service but he's hardly been either banging them in or have shot after shot saved by the keeper.
will be interesting to see how many he scores between now & the end of the season. Not many is my bet.