This is particularly funny if you know this little story.
The real Ronnie Moore was the victim of a hoax call about becoming the manager of Ipswich back in the day. As he was at Rotherham at the time it was mildly embarrassing for him.
Sheffield United will have to move fast if they are to secure a deal to bring Charlie Kirk to Bramall Lane this summer.
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That’s according to a claim made by Alan Nixon, with The Sun journalist revealing on Twitter that, if Slavisa Jokanovic’s side will have to act quickly to get a deal done for the Crewe Alexandra winger this summer, with Charlton Athletic believed to have reached a £500k agreement for the transfer of the 23-year-old.
Yes, you might say that 2 of the loanees came in for Oztumer & Maddison, but I'm pretty sure we would have taken up our "quota" of 5 loans anyway, even if they had stayed.
So, from 16 players (or call it 14 if you really want to) we secured the services of 6 of them (Watson, Pearce, JFC, Matthews, Stockley & Famewo) and then signed 3 more (MacGillivray, Dobson & Clare). So we are down by at least 5. 7 by my maths.... but have it your way.
Oh.... and btw - 1 of the 9 is currently injured(JFC) so if I gave you the 14 you can give me back 1. So we are down 6. Then we were told that Watson & Pearce were going to be bit part players & were not going to be playing week in week out.
As someone earlier pointed out - I get a lot of stick on here but at least I am consistent. I got a hell of abuse a month ago for saying that Duchatalet (for all his faults- and there were loads) did (at first) support the manager with signings.
If TS hadn't have "saved us" and had merely bought the club from Duchatalet in Jan 2020 instead of ESI then I'm sure he would be getting a rougher ride than he is currently.
I think everyone agreed we are 5-6 players light. I also have no doubt we will see that many come in. We have 4 loan spaces to use up plus a second keeper spot and a perm signing.
Transfer windows are always a toss up between getting players in as quickly as you can and getting the right players in.
CAFC have clearly decided that getting the right players in is worth the wait and I make them right on that decision.
We leave ourselves light of options for the opening 3 weeks of the season, hwoever as others have said, our first 11 is strong and we would be unlucky to lose players to injury in the first few games.
Yes it is a gamble but I think it is one that will hopefully pay off.
We could be sitting here with 10 new signings and a big squad, but if those signings are not of the required quality then we are in the shit really.
Transfer windows are always a toss up between getting players in as quickly as you can and getting the right players in.
CAFC have clearly decided that getting the right players in is worth the wait and I make them right on that decision.
We leave ourselves light of options for the opening 3 weeks of the season, hwoever as others have said, our first 11 is strong and we would be unlucky to lose players to injury in the first few games.
Yes it is a gamble but I think it is one that will hopefully pay off.
We could be sitting here with 10 new signings and a big squad, but if those signings are not of the required quality then we are in the shit really.
and if we wait and can't get the right players in anyway then we are either in the shit or signing shit. Time will tell if the waiting game works or not.
Yes, you might say that 2 of the loanees came in for Oztumer & Maddison, but I'm pretty sure we would have taken up our "quota" of 5 loans anyway, even if they had stayed.
So, from 16 players (or call it 14 if you really want to) we secured the services of 6 of them (Watson, Pearce, JFC, Matthews, Stockley & Famewo) and then signed 3 more (MacGillivray, Dobson & Clare). So we are down by at least 5. 7 by my maths.... but have it your way.
Oh.... and btw - 1 of the 9 is currently injured(JFC) so if I gave you the 14 you can give me back 1. So we are down 6. Then we were told that Watson & Pearce were going to be bit part players & were not going to be playing week in week out.
As someone earlier pointed out - I get a lot of stick on here but at least I am consistent. I got a hell of abuse a month ago for saying that Duchatalet (for all his faults- and there were loads) did (at first) support the manager with signings.
If TS hadn't have "saved us" and had merely bought the club from Duchatalet in Jan 2020 instead of ESI then I'm sure he would be getting a rougher ride than he is currently.
So we agree we don’t need replace anywhere near as many as Ipswich because we signed up 6 of the players who were out of contract. We also brought back two of our five loan players.
How many of Ipswich’s 20 released players stayed there and signed new deals? How many loans came back for this season?
On Maddison and Oztumer we were under a wage cap so it was important that they went. If they didn’t we may have brought in whoever we could loan for free I guess.
I’ve always agreed RD spent money on signings early on, no one can deny that. Our squads were never quite big enough but he spent big fees on the likes of Vetokele, Sarr, Bauer etc, more than we had spent for years. It could have been spent more wisely though, Powell achieved a lot more with a smaller budget. His managerial choices and sackings also made it unlikely to bring any success.
If we don’t bring in at least four signings by the end of the window TS will no doubt get a rough ride unless we’re winning every week. Plenty of unhappy fans are out there across social media. I’m not happy with the business so far either but I’ll judge it at the end of the window.
Transfer windows are always a toss up between getting players in as quickly as you can and getting the right players in.
CAFC have clearly decided that getting the right players in is worth the wait and I make them right on that decision.
We leave ourselves light of options for the opening 3 weeks of the season, hwoever as others have said, our first 11 is strong and we would be unlucky to lose players to injury in the first few games.
Yes it is a gamble but I think it is one that will hopefully pay off.
We could be sitting here with 10 new signings and a big squad, but if those signings are not of the required quality then we are in the shit really.
and if we wait and can't get the right players in anyway then we are either in the shit or signing shit. Time will tell if the waiting game works or not.
I agree.
It's a risky strategy, assuming that is the strategy.
Personally, I don't think there is a deliberate policy of waiting to the last minute and pick up a bargain.
I think that is forced upon us to a certain extent and we'd sign a player today (and announce him at the game in the new 4th shirt, ha ha) if we could. But for whatever reason the deals aren't getting done since we signed the five players we know about and who all did well on Saturday. We signed two others but it was stated that they were back up and some U23s have also joined.
The closer it gets to the transfer window the riskier that strategy (if that is what it is) becomes but it could mean clubs who are desperate to sell to reduce costs or free up funds will take a lower fee and players/agents a lower wage. In that way we get better players at a lower cost than if we bought now.
Or we're left signing free agents in September and it looks like there might be a lot of them on the market, albeit players not picked up for a good reason and perhaps not match fit.
It's frustrating not seeing new signings on the OS but as I have no control over it I'm not going to get upset about it.
We could of probably agreed a deal with Gomes and jonny Williams. But the fact we haven’t makes me think we are trying to get better if we do or don’t is another question could still be open to bringing them 2 in but trying to get better.think transfer window day will be our biggest ever this time.the next 2 weeks are crucial.
If you're getting a bit twitchy about our lack of transfer activity just think how the players, agents and club Chairman who have are watching the clock tick down on the offers on the table...
Oshilaja replaced Pratley replaced Shinnie didn't feature for Adkins Amos replaced Aneke gone Watson still here JFC still here Matthews still here Pearce still here Famewo still here Smith didn't play Millar gone Maatsen gone Stockley signed on a perm Maddison didn't play Oztumer. Didn't play
How about looking at it like this ? Nobody thinks we are ready for a full season but pretending we've lost 16 players is stupid... no matter how many people agree with you.
Oshilaja replaced Pratley replaced Shinnie didn't feature for Adkins Amos replaced Aneke gone Watson still here JFC still here Matthews still here Pearce still here Famewo still here Smith didn't play Millar gone Maatsen gone Stockley signed on a perm Maddison didn't play Oztumer. Didn't play
How about looking at it like this ? Nobody thinks we are ready for a full season but pretending we've lost 16 players is stupid... no matter how many people agree with you.
is it? Shinnie may not have played under Adkins, Smith either but they were squad players and if we had injuries or suspensions they may have done. It's why you have a squad.
Oshilaja replaced Pratley replaced Shinnie didn't feature for Adkins Amos replaced Aneke gone Watson still here JFC still here Matthews still here Pearce still here Famewo still here Smith didn't play Millar gone Maatsen gone Stockley signed on a perm Maddison didn't play Oztumer. Didn't play
How about looking at it like this ? Nobody thinks we are ready for a full season but pretending we've lost 16 players is stupid... no matter how many people agree with you.
is it? Shinnie may not have played under Adkins, Smith either but they were squad players and if we had injuries or suspensions they may have done. It's why you have a squad.
And we still need to sign players as per the rest of my post ... but saying we've lost 16 players is bollox. We are 4/5 players short
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The real Ronnie Moore was the victim of a hoax call about becoming the manager of Ipswich back in the day. As he was at Rotherham at the time it was mildly embarrassing for him.
Do you write for Old Moore's Almanack?
The players that were out of contract or loans expired as at May 2021 were:
Oshilaja
Pratley
Shinnie
Amos
Aneke
Watson
JFC
Matthews
Pearce
Famewo
Smith
Millar
Maatsen
Stockley
Maddison
Oztumer.
16 players.
Yes, you might say that 2 of the loanees came in for Oztumer & Maddison, but I'm pretty sure we would have taken up our "quota" of 5 loans anyway, even if they had stayed.
So, from 16 players (or call it 14 if you really want to) we secured the services of 6 of them (Watson, Pearce, JFC, Matthews, Stockley & Famewo) and then signed 3 more (MacGillivray, Dobson & Clare). So we are down by at least 5. 7 by my maths.... but have it your way.
Oh.... and btw - 1 of the 9 is currently injured(JFC) so if I gave you the 14 you can give me back 1. So we are down 6. Then we were told that Watson & Pearce were going to be bit part players & were not going to be playing week in week out.
As someone earlier pointed out - I get a lot of stick on here but at least I am consistent. I got a hell of abuse a month ago for saying that Duchatalet (for all his faults- and there were loads) did (at first) support the manager with signings.
If TS hadn't have "saved us" and had merely bought the club from Duchatalet in Jan 2020 instead of ESI then I'm sure he would be getting a rougher ride than he is currently.
https://the72.co.uk/244587/charlton-athletic-comment-millwall-man-should-be-on-radar-if-sheffield-united-win-race-for-winger-target/
CAFC have clearly decided that getting the right players in is worth the wait and I make them right on that decision.
We leave ourselves light of options for the opening 3 weeks of the season, hwoever as others have said, our first 11 is strong and we would be unlucky to lose players to injury in the first few games.
Yes it is a gamble but I think it is one that will hopefully pay off.
We could be sitting here with 10 new signings and a big squad, but if those signings are not of the required quality then we are in the shit really.
How many of Ipswich’s 20 released players stayed there and signed new deals? How many loans came back for this season?
On Maddison and Oztumer we were under a wage cap so it was important that they went. If they didn’t we may have brought in whoever we could loan for free I guess.
I’ve always agreed RD spent money on signings early on, no one can deny that. Our squads were never quite big enough but he spent big fees on the likes of Vetokele, Sarr, Bauer etc, more than we had spent for years. It could have been spent more wisely though, Powell achieved a lot more with a smaller budget. His managerial choices and sackings also made it unlikely to bring any success.
If we don’t bring in at least four signings by the end of the window TS will no doubt get a rough ride unless we’re winning every week. Plenty of unhappy fans are out there across social media. I’m not happy with the business so far either but I’ll judge it at the end of the window.
It's a risky strategy, assuming that is the strategy.
Personally, I don't think there is a deliberate policy of waiting to the last minute and pick up a bargain.
I think that is forced upon us to a certain extent and we'd sign a player today (and announce him at the game in the new 4th shirt, ha ha) if we could. But for whatever reason the deals aren't getting done since we signed the five players we know about and who all did well on Saturday. We signed two others but it was stated that they were back up and some U23s have also joined.
The closer it gets to the transfer window the riskier that strategy (if that is what it is) becomes but it could mean clubs who are desperate to sell to reduce costs or free up funds will take a lower fee and players/agents a lower wage. In that way we get better players at a lower cost than if we bought now.
Or we're left signing free agents in September and it looks like there might be a lot of them on the market, albeit players not picked up for a good reason and perhaps not match fit.
It's frustrating not seeing new signings on the OS but as I have no control over it I'm not going to get upset about it.
Pratley replaced
Shinnie didn't feature for Adkins
Amos replaced
Aneke gone
Watson still here
JFC still here
Matthews still here
Pearce still here
Famewo still here
Smith didn't play
Millar gone
Maatsen gone
Stockley signed on a perm
Maddison didn't play
Oztumer. Didn't play
How about looking at it like this ? Nobody thinks we are ready for a full season but pretending we've lost 16 players is stupid... no matter how many people agree with you.