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Sports Personality of the Year: Contenders revealed for 2020 BBC award

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  • Hamilton - yuk
  • edited December 2020
    Next year could be absolute carnage with The Olympics, Euros, Lewis chasing a record breaking 8th World Title and a World T20 that if we won would surely put Eoin Morgan right in contention. 
  • Hamilton - yuk
    Yuk?
  • edited December 2020
    Hamilton - yuk
    Yuk?
    Hamilton is good at what he does, in as much as Formula 1 is down to the skill of the driver rather than the quality of the car, but many do not find him an endearing personality.

    It's the perennial debate best performer sportsman or  sports personality? We seem to have it every year.

    Hamilton is a definite contender for best performer but best personality is another debate.


  • edited December 2020
    Delighted we didnt get a Ryan Giggs repeat (Henderson) which was the only thing I could see stopping Lewis. As a lot of you know I work closely with him and his team. These awards DO matter to him, because it drains to see so many negative comments across social media, and the abuse he gets sent on his social channels is horrific. It hurts him, and his parents.

    He's only human, so tonight I know for a fact that it will make him smile to receive an award from the British public.
    Do you? You've never said. 
    ;-)

    Have you been on his plane?
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  • Off_it said:
    Delighted we didnt get a Ryan Giggs repeat (Henderson) which was the only thing I could see stopping Lewis. As a lot of you know I work closely with him and his team. These awards DO matter to him, because it drains to see so many negative comments across social media, and the abuse he gets sent on his social channels is horrific. It hurts him, and his parents.

    He's only human, so tonight I know for a fact that it will make him smile to receive an award from the British public.
    Do you? You've never said. 
    ;-)

    Have you been on his plane?
    He doesn’t own it anymore and hasn’t done for a while - along with the not paying any tax another general misconception. ;)
  • edited December 2020
    LenGlover said:
    https://www.instagram.com/p/CIS4TsVF42-/?igshid=1f9henj94ylwt

    Tyson withdrawing himself from the SPOTY list. 


    Top man.
    He withdraws himself from an award that is voted for by the people, because he is the self proclaimed people's champion? 

    I guess that makes sense in Britain in 2020...  

    Doubt many of his fans pay much attention to it to be honest.  I've not watched it for years.  

    He's a breath of fresh air in the bland media trained sporting world these days and massive respect for him to pick himself up from where he was with his mental health and demons and achieve what he has this year. Very inspirational.

    I respect him for the fact that he doesn't need the twee SPOTY to validate his worth and as he says he receives the plaudits from his fans and the boxing world which is enough for him.


    So why make a big deal out of it on instagram then? 

    I am pleased he has put some of his problems behind him, though.    
     
    The BBC slaughtered him a few years back so I guess he wants to tell them to stick it.

    Understandable from his viewpoint.
    I wasn't aware of that Len - thanks for putting me straight.  

    Delighted Lewis won. 

    Precedent set for the team prize then, any team who wins the top division should now automatically be given the award, shouldn't they? All other football teams who have won the award have been given it for multiple trophies (including Liverpool) or remarkable achievements - Man Utd as first English European champs. Leicester for beating the odds. 

    Hearing that fan moan that she had "missed out" made me want to throw something at the TV. Yes, just four League cups, the three FA cups, the two Champions Leagues and a UEFA cup to celebrate, you poor, long suffering little precious.  They wonder why people don't like them?      
  • Well done Lewis
  • Sir Lewis soon
  • Delighted we didnt get a Ryan Giggs repeat (Henderson) which was the only thing I could see stopping Lewis. As a lot of you know I work closely with him and his team. These awards DO matter to him, because it drains to see so many negative comments across social media, and the abuse he gets sent on his social channels is horrific. It hurts him, and his parents.

    He's only human, so tonight I know for a fact that it will make him smile to receive an award from the British public.
    Mind me asking what it is you do @DamoNorthStand?
  • F1 lacks diversity, though in the case of drivers surely the main barrier is financial not racism as it's such a horrendously expensive sport, meaning that there will always be average drivers only there because they bring money with them
  • Delighted we didnt get a Ryan Giggs repeat (Henderson) which was the only thing I could see stopping Lewis. As a lot of you know I work closely with him and his team. These awards DO matter to him, because it drains to see so many negative comments across social media, and the abuse he gets sent on his social channels is horrific. It hurts him, and his parents.

    He's only human, so tonight I know for a fact that it will make him smile to receive an award from the British public.
    Mind me asking what it is you do @DamoNorthStand?
    Maybe he fills in his tax forms 
  • LenGlover said:
    https://www.instagram.com/p/CIS4TsVF42-/?igshid=1f9henj94ylwt

    Tyson withdrawing himself from the SPOTY list. 


    Top man.
    He withdraws himself from an award that is voted for by the people, because he is the self proclaimed people's champion? 

    I guess that makes sense in Britain in 2020...  

    Doubt many of his fans pay much attention to it to be honest.  I've not watched it for years.  

    He's a breath of fresh air in the bland media trained sporting world these days and massive respect for him to pick himself up from where he was with his mental health and demons and achieve what he has this year. Very inspirational.

    I respect him for the fact that he doesn't need the twee SPOTY to validate his worth and as he says he receives the plaudits from his fans and the boxing world which is enough for him.


    So why make a big deal out of it on instagram then? 

    I am pleased he has put some of his problems behind him, though.    
     
    The BBC slaughtered him a few years back so I guess he wants to tell them to stick it.

    Understandable from his viewpoint.
    I wasn't aware of that Len - thanks for putting me straight.  

    Delighted Lewis won. 

    Precedent set for the team prize then, any team who wins the top division should now automatically be given the award, shouldn't they? All other football teams who have won the award have been given it for multiple trophies (including Liverpool) or remarkable achievements - Man Utd as first English European champs. Leicester for beating the odds. 

    Hearing that fan moan that she had "missed out" made me want to throw something at the TV. Yes, just four League cups, the three FA cups, the two Champions Leagues and a UEFA cup to celebrate, you poor, long suffering little precious.  They wonder why people don't like them?      
    Yes, I said last night that Exeter were more deserving for team of the year, only their second Premiership AND their first European Cup, all in the same year. And from what had been a small, unfancied team

    But then It's always surprised me the number of times the European Ryder Cup team has won team of the year (5 times), when it's a 2 horse race!
  • LenGlover said:
    https://www.instagram.com/p/CIS4TsVF42-/?igshid=1f9henj94ylwt

    Tyson withdrawing himself from the SPOTY list. 


    Top man.
    He withdraws himself from an award that is voted for by the people, because he is the self proclaimed people's champion? 

    I guess that makes sense in Britain in 2020...  

    Doubt many of his fans pay much attention to it to be honest.  I've not watched it for years.  

    He's a breath of fresh air in the bland media trained sporting world these days and massive respect for him to pick himself up from where he was with his mental health and demons and achieve what he has this year. Very inspirational.

    I respect him for the fact that he doesn't need the twee SPOTY to validate his worth and as he says he receives the plaudits from his fans and the boxing world which is enough for him.


    So why make a big deal out of it on instagram then? 

    I am pleased he has put some of his problems behind him, though.    
     
    The BBC slaughtered him a few years back so I guess he wants to tell them to stick it.

    Understandable from his viewpoint.
    I wasn't aware of that Len - thanks for putting me straight.  

    Delighted Lewis won. 

    Precedent set for the team prize then, any team who wins the top division should now automatically be given the award, shouldn't they? All other football teams who have won the award have been given it for multiple trophies (including Liverpool) or remarkable achievements - Man Utd as first English European champs. Leicester for beating the odds. 

    Hearing that fan moan that she had "missed out" made me want to throw something at the TV. Yes, just four League cups, the three FA cups, the two Champions Leagues and a UEFA cup to celebrate, you poor, long suffering little precious.  They wonder why people don't like them?      
    Yes, I said last night that Exeter were more deserving for team of the year, only their second Premiership AND their first European Cup, all in the same year. And from what had been a small, unfancied team

    But then It's always surprised me the number of times the European Ryder Cup team has won team of the year (5 times), when it's a 2 horse race!
    It’s basically Eurovision 
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  • wmcf123 said:
    Delighted we didnt get a Ryan Giggs repeat (Henderson) which was the only thing I could see stopping Lewis. As a lot of you know I work closely with him and his team. These awards DO matter to him, because it drains to see so many negative comments across social media, and the abuse he gets sent on his social channels is horrific. It hurts him, and his parents.

    He's only human, so tonight I know for a fact that it will make him smile to receive an award from the British public.
    Mind me asking what it is you do @DamoNorthStand?
    Maybe he fills in his tax forms 
    Glad I don’t because it would make my eyes water. He pays a fuck load 
  • Lewis Hamilton is obviously exceptional at what he does, the stats prove it. I just cannot warm to him. I don’t dislike him, but he’s not someone I enjoy listening too nor watching (F1 zzzzz).

    Congratulations too him.
  • wmcf123 said:
    Delighted we didnt get a Ryan Giggs repeat (Henderson) which was the only thing I could see stopping Lewis. As a lot of you know I work closely with him and his team. These awards DO matter to him, because it drains to see so many negative comments across social media, and the abuse he gets sent on his social channels is horrific. It hurts him, and his parents.

    He's only human, so tonight I know for a fact that it will make him smile to receive an award from the British public.
    Mind me asking what it is you do @DamoNorthStand?
    Maybe he fills in his tax forms 
    Glad I don’t because it would make my eyes water. He pays a fuck load 
    Not in the UK though 
  • wmcf123 said:
    wmcf123 said:
    Delighted we didnt get a Ryan Giggs repeat (Henderson) which was the only thing I could see stopping Lewis. As a lot of you know I work closely with him and his team. These awards DO matter to him, because it drains to see so many negative comments across social media, and the abuse he gets sent on his social channels is horrific. It hurts him, and his parents.

    He's only human, so tonight I know for a fact that it will make him smile to receive an award from the British public.
    Mind me asking what it is you do @DamoNorthStand?
    Maybe he fills in his tax forms 
    Glad I don’t because it would make my eyes water. He pays a fuck load 
    Not in the UK though 
    Yes he does. A lot. 

    The press have also picked this up now so it isn’t exactly new news.
  • Delighted we didnt get a Ryan Giggs repeat (Henderson) which was the only thing I could see stopping Lewis. As a lot of you know I work closely with him and his team. These awards DO matter to him, because it drains to see so many negative comments across social media, and the abuse he gets sent on his social channels is horrific. It hurts him, and his parents.

    He's only human, so tonight I know for a fact that it will make him smile to receive an award from the British public.
    Mind me asking what it is you do @DamoNorthStand?
    I’m a director of a sports marketing and talent management agency.

    We have a specialism in F1 and work with lots of drivers and teams on their brand partnerships.

    Lewis being one.

    Also manage a lot of brand partnerships in football (Man City, Real Madrid, Champions League etc), golf, tennis and rugby.

    I love sport so it’s something I’m passionate about 
    Do you work with Pierre Gasly ? 
    I only ask because when I took my then 11 year old to the Canadian Grand Prix last year and I’d booked F1 experience or something , we had a pass to the Paddock for the day on the Friday or Saturday and we were milling around it was really quiet at the end of the day and no punters about and Pierre came by and I asked for a quick photo with my son and he said no he was in a rush (it would have taken 10 seconds ) having had a few beers throughout the day I embarrassed myself and son by saying ‘you’re kidding me , fuck off “ 
    afterwards I presumed he’s under instructions not to stop because if you stop for one then it could be a gazillion but that wasn’t the situation we were in but Pierre is only young .
    anyway my son who is more mature and understanding than me holds no grudge and gets the hump when I say I hope he fucks up and crashes 🤷‍♂️

    What are the instructions for drivers with fans , are there any ? 
    We manage Casio’s partnership with Alpha Tauri. But I’ve never met either of the drivers as someone else covers that account.

    All I do know is that F1 drivers are under immense time pressures during a weekend. Literally from Thursday to Sunday every single minute is accounted for. 

    But that’s a proper shame. You can be busy without speaking like that to someone.
  • edited December 2020
    Hamilton just became one of the greatest sportsmen, not just in the UK, but the world, with his recent achievements.

    His 'personality' is irrelevant.  His achievements are exceptional.

    A worthy winner.
    Way I see it is simple

    If you want to be the best then you have to be a bit cold hearted and ruthless

    Nothing wrong and doesnt hurt being nice at times.

    But that approach to winning is so ingrained into you, you dont have time to develop a nice / nice personality.

    Always remember the late Phil Sherwen on "Chasing Legends" (a Documentary about Mark Cavendish and Team Columbia in the Tour de France one year), he was saying how Sprinters are like Boxers, they go in with a fighting attitude because its the nature of the Sport, they dont turn round and say: "Oh I'll do my best and see what happens"... and unfortunately they come across as a bit of a prick doing so
  • F1 isn't exactly full of warm personalities. Plenty of the drivers come across as arrogant and why wouldn't they be when they take part one of the mostly highly skilled and dangerous sports on earth. When Ford were involved in F1 donkies years ago Johnny Herbert visited the Dagenham plant where my dad worked and all of the people that met him said what an epic bellend he was. Beyond arrogant apparently.

    Hamilton isn't someone I can particularly warm to either but as a sportsman he is up there with the very best this country has ever produced.
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