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Why are so many people not wearing face masks?

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  • edited August 2020
    My sister was in Spain last month and she said that everyone was wearing face masks because they fear the penalty for not do so.

    Is it the case that some British people that they feel that the rules don't apply to them, or is it that they know it is very unlikely that they will be fined if they do break them?
  • edited August 2020
    My sister was in Spain last month and she said that everyone was wearing face masks because they fear the penalty for not do so.

    Is it the case that some British people that they feel that the rules don't apply to them, or is it that they know it is very unlikely that they will be fined if they do break them?
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-53802226 

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/english.elpais.com/society/2020-08-10/how-spains-face-mask-rules-are-being-broken.html?outputType=amp

    Sounds to me like the Spanish hate wearing face masks more so then the brits. Though at least it would appear, as you mentioned, fines are being dished out for those who don't comply.
  • I wear a mask but as soon as I’m out of the shop it’s off.
    Oppressive, horrible things.
    Ditto, I can't breathe very well with a mask on as I have a nasal issue (that was operated on before and never resolved it so can't be bothered to try again).
    Plus my glasses steam up, so I can't see or breathe well at all.
    But I do wear a mask where required to.
  • I’m on a 161 right now stopped at Eltham church because a fella won’t put a mask on. The driver is refusing to move.
    Everyones got off and got the bus behind.
    And there’s more people not wearing a mask on this bus than on the first. :disappointed:
  • My sister was in Spain last month and she said that everyone was wearing face masks because they fear the penalty for not do so.

    Is it the case that some British people that they feel that the rules don't apply to them, or is it that they know it is very unlikely that they will be fined if they do break them?
    Both.
  • I’m on a 161 right now stopped at Eltham church because a fella won’t put a mask on. The driver is refusing to move.
    Everyones got off and got the bus behind.
    You'll be there all day if the bloke without the mask gets on :smile:
  • Heard on the radio that nationally there have been six prosecutions for non compliance with mask wearing. Just like everything else that’s come out of government the will to enforce the rules has be absent. Just my view here but my solution would be to inform shops that where customers were observed not complying then the shop would be ordered to close. This virus is going to be with us for probably years and selfish idiots are going to prolong the outbreak and WILL cost lives. 
  • Isn't this just something like those 20mph speed zones where most people think :-

    "I believe 20mph is too slow. 30mph is safe enough so long as pedestrians stay alert and don't wear headphones. As a compromise I will travel at 30mph instead of 35mph which is my usual speed along this sort of street.

    Speed limits - save energy - stop using plastic - put things in the blue bin not the grey one - wear a mask - don't eat sugar - don't say anything that might be offensive to minorities - don't give money to beggars - worry about climate change - don't smoke in front of your kids - blah blah blah....

    Yeah Yeah Yeah  - but just stop telling me what to do all the time!"

    Personally, I work hard to obey all the rules! 
  • I also hear you @stevexreeve the fact that successive governments feel the need to mess with peoples lives and tell people how to live their lives grates on me 

    How thick have you got to be to not know that getting no exercise, eating shit, smoking and drinking excessively is bad for you especially in the age of information we live in 

    One thing I agree needed something pushed along is to stop food manufacturers putting the volume of refined sugar in stuff and that diet drinks should be the default option as opposed to the other way round. Genuinely it amazes me when people are shown in a visual how much unnatural sugars are in drinks and food. OK that may seem like messing with people but having seen how appallingly behaved some of my friends kids are that are given sugary drinks as a default method of hydration it makes me feel sorry for teachers and people like me who have to bite their lip when the shitty arsed little muppets are screaming round Asda or worse, my local! 

    Funny thing is though, these same successive governments have subbed out so much stuff like health care and housing provision to absolve them of direct blame i think they kind of lose the right to tell anyone how to live their life 
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  • I wear a mask but as soon as I’m out of the shop it’s off.
    Oppressive, horrible things.
    Same here, but that's fine as there's no requirement to wear a mask outdoors where the risk of spreading Covid is much smaller

    Wearing an extra large cotton mask has made a difference, I have a large face so it's a lot more comfortable
  • I’m on a 161 right now stopped at Eltham church because a fella won’t put a mask on. The driver is refusing to move.
    Everyones got off and got the bus behind.
    And there’s more people not wearing a mask on this bus than on the first. :disappointed:
    Keep us updated Baldy
  • Exemption cards

    Those who have an age, health or disability reason for not wearing a face covering should not be routinely asked to give any written evidence of this, this includes exemption cards. No person needs to seek advice or request a letter from a medical professional about their reason for not wearing a face covering.

    Some people may feel more comfortable showing something that says they do not have to wear a face covering. This could be in the form of an exemption card, badge or even a home-made sign.

    This is a personal choice and is not necessary in law. (My bold).

    Access exemption card templates

    For exemptions in different parts of the UK please refer to the specific guidance for Northern IrelandScotland and Wales.


    https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/face-coverings-when-to-wear-one-and-how-to-make-your-own/face-coverings-when-to-wear-one-and-how-to-make-your-own

  • So some people who are vulnerable to COVID-19, don't wear masks !
    You couldn't make it up.

    I was caught on the M3 in a cloud burst on Thursday and visibility was shocking and yet there were still folk going at 70 to 80 miles MPH. 
    You couldn't make it up.

    Unless you are Messi or Ronaldo you just have to be a team player sometimes and forgo you individual freedoms and choices.

    Masks are anti social and freedom of speech is muffled, But I abide with the rules.

    My 2020 vision which is blurred because of wearing a mask can't wait for the post Covid world of moaning about other trivial things.

    2021 let's be having you; when Charlton start their Journey back to respectability and Zoom is just an ice Lolly.
  • I’m on a 161 right now stopped at Eltham church because a fella won’t put a mask on. The driver is refusing to move.
    Who caved in first
  • Heard on the radio that nationally there have been six prosecutions for non compliance with mask wearing. Just like everything else that’s come out of government the will to enforce the rules has be absent. Just my view here but my solution would be to inform shops that where customers were observed not complying then the shop would be ordered to close. This virus is going to be with us for probably years and selfish idiots are going to prolong the outbreak and WILL cost lives. 
    Won’t the outbreak stop when a vaccine has been found? 
  • edited August 2020
    Okay, looks like some people have jumped on the anti mask/social distancing protest bandwagon in Trafalgar Square.

    "

    David Icke apparently about to speak. Idiots. 
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  • The question which I found very interesting which was posed on Twitter is at what metric will all this restrictions be relaxed as we go back normal? 
    Normally see various answers, no cases (testing almost 180k a day so won’t be at zero for a long time). No deaths for a month? 75% of the country to be vaccinated. Waiting to find out what the long term implications are from the virus.

    Not trying to be a controversial arsehole, just found the question very interesting because personally don’t think anyone could give an answer to that question even members of SAGE.
  • colthe3rd said:
    colthe3rd said:
    I think there is a sort of hyperbole with this whole thing, the vast majority of people are wearing masks wherever they need to be. I think it's just more noticeable when someone isn't so we build it up more in our heads about the true numbers who aren't.

    Of those who don't wear one, I'm sure there are a number that don't due to health reasons and for the rest? I'd honestly like to ask some people, it could be they've spent too much time on Facebook and some of the nonsense being shared on there or maybe they just have an issue with authority. I've recently moved from a less wealthy area to one that is definitely more gentrified and the numbers wearing masks here in shops and on transport is definitely higher. Maybe it's part of the authority issue thing but it is definitely an interesting social study that I'd like to read about if any are done in the future.   
    Sadly it's not true. Was in an ASDA this afternoon and barely 50% of customers were wearing masks. Was quite disappointed actually
    Counted every single one of them did you? 
    Unnecessary 
    Not at all, when someone tells me I'm lying about something but only backs it up with some made up percentage. Absolutely necessary. 
  • colthe3rd said:
    colthe3rd said:
    colthe3rd said:
    I think there is a sort of hyperbole with this whole thing, the vast majority of people are wearing masks wherever they need to be. I think it's just more noticeable when someone isn't so we build it up more in our heads about the true numbers who aren't.

    Of those who don't wear one, I'm sure there are a number that don't due to health reasons and for the rest? I'd honestly like to ask some people, it could be they've spent too much time on Facebook and some of the nonsense being shared on there or maybe they just have an issue with authority. I've recently moved from a less wealthy area to one that is definitely more gentrified and the numbers wearing masks here in shops and on transport is definitely higher. Maybe it's part of the authority issue thing but it is definitely an interesting social study that I'd like to read about if any are done in the future.   
    Sadly it's not true. Was in an ASDA this afternoon and barely 50% of customers were wearing masks. Was quite disappointed actually
    Counted every single one of them did you? 
    Unnecessary 
    Not at all, when someone tells me I'm lying about something but only backs it up with some made up percentage. Absolutely necessary. 
    Agreed. Absolutely no where have I seen anything close to 50% compliance. Yet surprise surprise, on CL someone claims to have witnessed it.
  • I’m on a 161 right now stopped at Eltham church because a fella won’t put a mask on. The driver is refusing to move.
    Who caved in first
    Don’t know, we got off and onto the bus behind.
  • Carter said:
    I also hear you @stevexreeve the fact that successive governments feel the need to mess with peoples lives and tell people how to live their lives grates on me 

    How thick have you got to be to not know that getting no exercise, eating shit, smoking and drinking excessively is bad for you especially in the age of information we live in 

    One thing I agree needed something pushed along is to stop food manufacturers putting the volume of refined sugar in stuff and that diet drinks should be the default option as opposed to the other way round. Genuinely it amazes me when people are shown in a visual how much unnatural sugars are in drinks and food. OK that may seem like messing with people but having seen how appallingly behaved some of my friends kids are that are given sugary drinks as a default method of hydration it makes me feel sorry for teachers and people like me who have to bite their lip when the shitty arsed little muppets are screaming round Asda or worse, my local! 

    Funny thing is though, these same successive governments have subbed out so much stuff like health care and housing provision to absolve them of direct blame i think they kind of lose the right to tell anyone how to live their life 

    There's a thread for that. :D
  • edited August 2020
    Heard on the radio that nationally there have been six prosecutions for non compliance with mask wearing. Just like everything else that’s come out of government the will to enforce the rules has be absent. Just my view here but my solution would be to inform shops that where customers were observed not complying then the shop would be ordered to close. This virus is going to be with us for probably years and selfish idiots are going to prolong the outbreak and WILL cost lives. 
    Won’t the outbreak stop when a vaccine has been found? 
    There will be Covid circulating in some circles probably forever. Not everyone on the planet will be vaccinated. There is now verified evidence from Hong Kong of a previously Covid infected patient being reinfected. There is more than one strain of the virus already. A vaccine would be tremendous but there are far too many people pinning their hopes on a vaccine making them permanently safe from infection and too many thinking that a vaccine is inevitable. My estimate is that > 80% of the population think this is over. It very much isn’t. 

  • Does suprise me about the sheer number of middle aged + older men that seem to have a weird underlying health condition that stops them wearing a mask. 

    I call it selfishness (for the 99%). 
  • Does suprise me about the sheer number of middle aged + older men that seem to have a weird underlying health condition that stops them wearing a mask. 

    I call it selfishness (for the 99%). 
    I'm amazed you have the time to post on here as a fully qualified and experienced medical professional, working in several specialist fields, who has managed to not only identify all those who can be exempt but record their gender and age.

  • Does suprise me about the sheer number of middle aged + older men that seem to have a weird underlying health condition that stops them wearing a mask. 

    I call it selfishness (for the 99%). 
    Dont worry about it, they might be on their way to a rave...
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