I hope i'm proven wrong on this if he does sign, but i just think that we should be aiming higher than Docherty. We need to stay in the championship and for me that means bringing in players who are good enough to play in a championship side immediately. If he can't get in the Rangers side, then is he really good enough?
Remember Bowyer was pretty damning about Aribo going there, player should be aiming higher, it's not a great league, poor standard, only 4-5 tough games a season etc etc................and now we're going after a player who can't even get in their side.
Also how match fit is he? He hasn't played a first team game since August.
Most of your posts make sense. Can’t you try and fit in a bit more please and have a rant and write off esi after 3 weeks for not upgrading the toilet paper from Lidl’s own brand to Andrex
I'll judge a player Gallen and Bowyer pick when he's on the pitch playing for us. Not by who he's playing for.
Players can be undervalued by managers and teams.
Leicester laughed at us when we bought Kermogant.
Danny Mills was rotting in Norwich reserves.
Trust the recruitment until you can judge for yourself. This "I have no idea who this player is, but really is this who we're going for?" is needless pessimism.
And yet you’d admit you’d get more excited by a sub from Chelsea/Arsenal/Liverpool than one from Rangers/Forest/Bristol City? Which was exactly my point. Hence why it ain’t “needless pessimism”.
Not quite sure what you mean. Are you saying the criteria for our scouting should be that they make you excited?
Rather have a loan B&G think will do a job. And with experience in this division. All day long.
Just a small addition o my previous post re Docherty, my mate who I mentioned also said he was the main play-maker and could pick a pass, the trouble was some of the midfielders he was playing with were just not good enough/up to speed and couldnt take advantage. I reckon putting him alongside Cullen and Field could be a masterstoke......but as others have said....I should be writing him off before he potentially joins!!! LOL
"Bowyer is hoping to have Cullen, Lyle Taylor and Sam Field available for the derby against Fulham."
Jesus wept.....are our players made of glass or what !!! Cullen got a ball on his toe & jarred his knee....wtf ?? Bert Trautman played the Cup final with a fucking broken arm.
With regard to any new signings...........doesn't really matter that much now. Have to be signed by midday tomorrow to be able on play on Wednesday so might as well forget any signings until Friday week as in case the club have forgotten WE DONT HAVE ANYMORE GAMES UNTIL AFTER THE WINDOW HAS SHUT.
I'll judge a player Gallen and Bowyer pick when he's on the pitch playing for us. Not by who he's playing for.
Players can be undervalued by managers and teams.
Leicester laughed at us when we bought Kermogant.
Danny Mills was rotting in Norwich reserves.
Trust the recruitment until you can judge for yourself. This "I have no idea who this player is, but really is this who we're going for?" is needless pessimism.
And yet you’d admit you’d get more excited by a sub from Chelsea/Arsenal/Liverpool than one from Rangers/Forest/Bristol City? Which was exactly my point. Hence why it ain’t “needless pessimism”.
Not quite sure what you mean. Are you saying the criteria for our scouting should be that they make you excited?
Rather have a loan B&G think will do a job. And with experience in this division. All day long.
You’ve taken “excited” to literally, so I’ll help you out, a sub from brilliant team > a sub from an average team (generally speaking)
And Conor Gallagher wasn’t just doing a job, he was a class act, which needs replacing with a class act.
I'll judge a player Gallen and Bowyer pick when he's on the pitch playing for us. Not by who he's playing for.
Players can be undervalued by managers and teams.
Leicester laughed at us when we bought Kermogant.
Danny Mills was rotting in Norwich reserves.
Trust the recruitment until you can judge for yourself. This "I have no idea who this player is, but really is this who we're going for?" is needless pessimism.
And yet you’d admit you’d get more excited by a sub from Chelsea/Arsenal/Liverpool than one from Rangers/Forest/Bristol City? Which was exactly my point. Hence why it ain’t “needless pessimism”.
Not quite sure what you mean. Are you saying the criteria for our scouting should be that they make you excited?
Rather have a loan B&G think will do a job. And with experience in this division. All day long.
You’ve taken “excited” to literally, so I’ll help you out, a sub from brilliant team > a sub from an average team (generally speaking)
And Conor Gallagher wasn’t just doing a job, he was a class act, which needs replacing with a class act.
Conor was a one-off as a loan ... doubt we will be lucky enough to repeat that again.
I'll judge a player Gallen and Bowyer pick when he's on the pitch playing for us. Not by who he's playing for.
Players can be undervalued by managers and teams.
Leicester laughed at us when we bought Kermogant.
Danny Mills was rotting in Norwich reserves.
Trust the recruitment until you can judge for yourself. This "I have no idea who this player is, but really is this who we're going for?" is needless pessimism.
And yet you’d admit you’d get more excited by a sub from Chelsea/Arsenal/Liverpool than one from Rangers/Forest/Bristol City? Which was exactly my point. Hence why it ain’t “needless pessimism”.
Not quite sure what you mean. Are you saying the criteria for our scouting should be that they make you excited?
Rather have a loan B&G think will do a job. And with experience in this division. All day long.
You’ve taken “excited” to literally, so I’ll help you out, a sub from brilliant team > a sub from an average team (generally speaking)
And Conor Gallagher wasn’t just doing a job, he was a class act, which needs replacing with a class act.
Conor was a one-off as a loan ... doubt we will be lucky enough to repeat that again.
Yeah our loans have been rubbish recently...Cullen, Bielik, Da Silva etc.
I'll judge a player Gallen and Bowyer pick when he's on the pitch playing for us. Not by who he's playing for.
Players can be undervalued by managers and teams.
Leicester laughed at us when we bought Kermogant.
Danny Mills was rotting in Norwich reserves.
Trust the recruitment until you can judge for yourself. This "I have no idea who this player is, but really is this who we're going for?" is needless pessimism.
And yet you’d admit you’d get more excited by a sub from Chelsea/Arsenal/Liverpool than one from Rangers/Forest/Bristol City? Which was exactly my point. Hence why it ain’t “needless pessimism”.
Not quite sure what you mean. Are you saying the criteria for our scouting should be that they make you excited?
Rather have a loan B&G think will do a job. And with experience in this division. All day long.
You’ve taken “excited” to literally, so I’ll help you out, a sub from brilliant team > a sub from an average team (generally speaking)
And Conor Gallagher wasn’t just doing a job, he was a class act, which needs replacing with a class act.
Conor was a one-off as a loan ... doubt we will be lucky enough to repeat that again.
I'll judge a player Gallen and Bowyer pick when he's on the pitch playing for us. Not by who he's playing for.
Players can be undervalued by managers and teams.
Leicester laughed at us when we bought Kermogant.
Danny Mills was rotting in Norwich reserves.
Trust the recruitment until you can judge for yourself. This "I have no idea who this player is, but really is this who we're going for?" is needless pessimism.
And yet you’d admit you’d get more excited by a sub from Chelsea/Arsenal/Liverpool than one from Rangers/Forest/Bristol City? Which was exactly my point. Hence why it ain’t “needless pessimism”.
Not quite sure what you mean. Are you saying the criteria for our scouting should be that they make you excited?
Rather have a loan B&G think will do a job. And with experience in this division. All day long.
You’ve taken “excited” to literally, so I’ll help you out, a sub from brilliant team > a sub from an average team (generally speaking)
And Conor Gallagher wasn’t just doing a job, he was a class act, which needs replacing with a class act.
Conor was a one-off as a loan ... doubt we will be lucky enough to repeat that again.
Actually our loanees in the past couple of seasons have been a roaring success
Was chatting to a Jock in the pub last week, Rangers fan, doesn't understand why Gerrard is not playing him, reckons he would do a great job in the Championship - Docherty that is
I'll judge a player Gallen and Bowyer pick when he's on the pitch playing for us. Not by who he's playing for.
Players can be undervalued by managers and teams.
Leicester laughed at us when we bought Kermogant.
Danny Mills was rotting in Norwich reserves.
Trust the recruitment until you can judge for yourself. This "I have no idea who this player is, but really is this who we're going for?" is needless pessimism.
And yet you’d admit you’d get more excited by a sub from Chelsea/Arsenal/Liverpool than one from Rangers/Forest/Bristol City? Which was exactly my point. Hence why it ain’t “needless pessimism”.
Not quite sure what you mean. Are you saying the criteria for our scouting should be that they make you excited?
Rather have a loan B&G think will do a job. And with experience in this division. All day long.
You’ve taken “excited” to literally, so I’ll help you out, a sub from brilliant team > a sub from an average team (generally speaking)
And Conor Gallagher wasn’t just doing a job, he was a class act, which needs replacing with a class act.
Conor was a one-off as a loan ... doubt we will be lucky enough to repeat that again.
Cullen, Bielik, Dasilva, Coquelin
And then Leko, Steer, Amos, Mavididi (first time round) all to a slightly lesser extent
I'll judge a player Gallen and Bowyer pick when he's on the pitch playing for us. Not by who he's playing for.
Players can be undervalued by managers and teams.
Leicester laughed at us when we bought Kermogant.
Danny Mills was rotting in Norwich reserves.
Trust the recruitment until you can judge for yourself. This "I have no idea who this player is, but really is this who we're going for?" is needless pessimism.
And yet you’d admit you’d get more excited by a sub from Chelsea/Arsenal/Liverpool than one from Rangers/Forest/Bristol City? Which was exactly my point. Hence why it ain’t “needless pessimism”.
Not quite sure what you mean. Are you saying the criteria for our scouting should be that they make you excited?
Rather have a loan B&G think will do a job. And with experience in this division. All day long.
You’ve taken “excited” to literally, so I’ll help you out, a sub from brilliant team > a sub from an average team (generally speaking)
And Conor Gallagher wasn’t just doing a job, he was a class act, which needs replacing with a class act.
Conor was a one-off as a loan ... doubt we will be lucky enough to repeat that again.
Yeah our loans have been rubbish recently...Cullen, Bielik, Da Silva etc.
Sarcasm presumably zzz
Indeed, they are excellent ... I just believe Conor is a cut above all of them and will have the biggest career.
For that reason, he is a one-off ... in my opinion, a future England captain.
A bit off topic, but if Taylor is 100% not going to sign a new contract, I can’t quite decide if it would be a good deal if we were to get Kasey Palmer and some money, rather than two players in exchange. That’s not to say that’s been offered, but if they really want Taylor and are prepared to offer us Palmer, they would be prepared to offer us money too.
Of course, we’d need to replace Taylor which would be the biggest challenge, but for the ‘long-term’ of the club, having Palmer would be beneficial.
Just in replacement of Taylor is not what we need right at this very moment. So on that basis, I don’t believe I can really say it would be a good deal. It would however, if it was Palmer and money which allowed us to get closer to the valuation of Toney.
Anyway, this is just pure thinking out loud so feel free to ignore me.
In the 55 years I have been supporting this club I have learnt that nothing ever goes as smoothly as it should. For all you youngsters on here welcome to a lifetime of being patient.
In the 55 years I have been supporting this club I have learnt that nothing ever goes as smoothly as it should. For all you youngsters on here welcome to a lifetime of being patient.
Wasn't much different the 8 years before that either 😉. Good to see you last Saturday mate 👍.
"Bowyer is hoping to have Cullen, Lyle Taylor and Sam Field available for the derby against Fulham."
Jesus wept.....are our players made of glass or what !!! Cullen got a ball on his toe & jarred his knee....wtf ?? Bert Trautman played the Cup final with a fucking broken arm.
With regard to any new signings...........doesn't really matter that much now. Have to be signed by midday tomorrow to be able on play on Wednesday so might as well forget any signings until Friday week as in case the club have forgotten WE DONT HAVE ANYMORE GAMES UNTIL AFTER THE WINDOW HAS SHUT.
I think Trautman had a broken neck?
Sorry, my bad. But you get the gist.....
Just as an aside, there is a movie about Trautmann's story (The Keeper) available on Sky Movies.
I think the January transfer window is showing that having a bit of money is not enough to get deals over the line. You have to be prepared to pay more in January than you would in the summer. Better to have the player rather than any money I think.
Lyle Taylor had never played higher then the middle of League 1 when he signed for us, if Doherty is deemed good enough by Gallen and Bowyer, then I'll take their judgement over someone who's looking at a wikipedia profile of a player
Taylor signed for us also in league one and grew with us.
I'm not saying Docherty can't be a decent player in time, but we don't have time. We need a player who can walk into our side now and he hasn't played a first team game for 5 months.
A bit off topic, but if Taylor is 100% not going to sign a new contract, I can’t quite decide if it would be a good deal if we were to get Kasey Palmer and some money, rather than two players in exchange. That’s not to say that’s been offered, but if they really want Taylor and are prepared to offer us Palmer, they would be prepared to offer us money too.
Of course, we’d need to replace Taylor which would be the biggest challenge, but for the ‘long-term’ of the club, having Palmer would be beneficial.
Just in replacement of Taylor is not what we need right at this very moment. So on that basis, I don’t believe I can really say it would be a good deal. It would however, if it was Palmer and money which allowed us to get closer to the valuation of Toney.
Anyway, this is just pure thinking out loud so feel free to ignore me.
That doesn’t mean I want Taylor to go, no chance. I want him to sign a new contract and stay, he is practically invaluable to our team. Just if we could get Palmer and Toney, somehow, I think I’d just about be able to live with it.
In the 55 years I have been supporting this club I have learnt that nothing ever goes as smoothly as it should. For all you youngsters on here welcome to a lifetime of being patient.
Wasn't much different the 8 years before that either 😉. Good to see you last Saturday mate 👍.
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Rather have a loan B&G think will do a job. And with experience in this division. All day long.
And Conor Gallagher wasn’t just doing a job, he was a class act, which needs replacing with a class act.
And then Leko, Steer, Amos, Mavididi (first time round) all to a slightly lesser extent
I would say our loans are normally quite good...
The contract for Bowyer is strange though.
Sick of it to be honest. Didn't expect mega big bucks signings ,but FFS just once can't we actually push the boat out instead of a pedlo?
Indeed, they are excellent ... I just believe Conor is a cut above all of them and will have the biggest career.
For that reason, he is a one-off ... in my opinion, a future England captain.
Of course, we’d need to replace Taylor which would be the biggest challenge, but for the ‘long-term’ of the club, having Palmer would be beneficial.
Just in replacement of Taylor is not what we need right at this very moment. So on that basis, I don’t believe I can really say it would be a good deal. It would however, if it was Palmer and money which allowed us to get closer to the valuation of Toney.
Anyway, this is just pure thinking out loud so feel free to ignore me.
For all you youngsters on here welcome to a lifetime of being patient.
Wasn't much different the 8 years before that either 😉. Good to see you last Saturday mate 👍.
I'm not saying Docherty can't be a decent player in time, but we don't have time. We need a player who can walk into our side now and he hasn't played a first team game for 5 months.
I hope i'm proved wrong (if he signs of course).