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  • Jints said:
    swordfish said:
    Jints said:
    swordfish said:
    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c20626dy9d6o

    Ford cutting 800 jobs citing low demand for electric cars.

    Feel sorry for the workers - again I ask the government to scrap these mandates to sell X% of electric vehicles. It's a good example of government overreach.
    Ask all you like. Not happening.
    The UK/EU governments probably think they have the car manufacturers over a barrel with the quotas and they will fall into line but in reality it’s created a looming unintended consequence and manufacturers will have no option other than to shut more and more production lines down. If the EU and UK economies think they are struggling atm they are in for a fucking big shock. This has got the making of a worldwide ‘winter of discontent’ written all over it. Personally, I think it’s a toss up which government cracks first, the UK one or the German one. Whichever one it is, wins the race for sustainable inward investment for the foreseeable future if the other doesn’t immediately follow suit.
    Why? This is about sales of cars in a country, not where they are manufactured. I agree that the 2030 deadline is going to have to be pushed back. The car manufacturers are screwed any way I think with the Trump tariffs being introduced and sales in China declining. 
    It already has been, to 2035, more than a decade away. It's not going to be pushed back again.
    Labour has a manifesto pledge to reinstate 2030. 
    So it will stay at 2035 then 😉
  • JamesSeed said:

    PS Saw this and though of Nick :-)
    I realise this was in jest but the reference to 2p per mile does encourage me to say again this price differential / benefit won’t survive for much longer. 

    A levy will emerge albeit the move to EV is inevitable (and appropriate). 

    I was a little surprised the budget didn’t say more on future plans in this space given the commentary on the need to fix the foundations etc.  Maybe the next budget will say something instead. 
    Who cares about that. Number 1 here is beating someone away at the lights on the streets of Battersea. Waaaahhhheeeyyy.
  • JamesSeed said:

    PS Saw this and though of Nick :-)
    I realise this was in jest but the reference to 2p per mile does encourage me to say again this price differential / benefit won’t survive for much longer. 

    A levy will emerge albeit the move to EV is inevitable (and appropriate). 

    I was a little surprised the budget didn’t say more on future plans in this space given the commentary on the need to fix the foundations etc.  Maybe the next budget will say something instead. 
    It will say taxes on all car ownership, parking and use will rise as they’ve found another big black hole in the public finances caused by mass unemployment and higher interest rates brought about because they were left with an unknown black hole in their finances by the last government which their experienced economist Chancellor found.
  • The biggest problem for Electric cars is the infrastructure. The government can band about net zero targets all they like. But unless there is a concerted effort to create an infrastructure on a national level, akin to when they built the electricity transmission network, or water supply network for example then it will continue to stall.
    Just relying on a handful of private sector companies to install a few charging stations here or there is nowhere near enough. They should be digging up roads in every street in the country.
    Would prefer the government spent my/our money on public transport and the users actually paid some of it back.

  • Live rural, you need your own transport. Most are not big earners I would imagine so affordability is key. Again, no real drive to install chargers all over the shop so any enforced change will hit some of the population very hard indeed.
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