Gordon Brown had everybody rushing to by diesel vehicles as they were greener than petrol ones although they were more polluting. The large number of diesels sold on his advice was the precusser to today's problems.
I think that’s true but politicians make policy on the advice of industry and scientific experts. I doubt Gordon Brown knew any more about diesel v petrol engines than any ordinary person. In hindsight it was completely wrong but singling out Brown seems harsh.
Just for the sake of clarity, Brown was also an "ordinary person". Very ordinary in fact.
I cant escape the image of the decaying hulks of thousands of electric cars that no one has the money, or inclination, to spend £20k to buy a replacement battery after 10 years or so. My 12 year old car has had a couple of hoses replaced since I've owned it. £120
In 10 years time, battery technology would have advanced so much, surely battery prices will drop.
Great. So, what, half the price? So £10k?
£5K? The blinkered advocates say any criticism is created by the oil companies, deep state or the plain ignorant.
But there are valid questions that need answering.
So if I’m reading the above correctly, an EV with a new battery will do 600k miles on that original battery so the need for any EV owner to replace a battery at any point is extremely unlikely. Unlikely even if that 600k turns out to be 300k. That’s something I’m not aware of and in many respects is a game changer. On the other hand I understand most EV batteries warranties last for 8 - 15 years or 100k miles. Somewhat of a discrepancy here ? A more realistic figure is 150k miles, so around 15 years which to me seems decent enough.
I cant escape the image of the decaying hulks of thousands of electric cars that no one has the money, or inclination, to spend £20k to buy a replacement battery after 10 years or so. My 12 year old car has had a couple of hoses replaced since I've owned it. £120
In 10 years time, battery technology would have advanced so much, surely battery prices will drop.
Great. So, what, half the price? So £10k?
£5K? The blinkered advocates say any criticism is created by the oil companies, deep state or the plain ignorant.
But there are valid questions that need answering.
Let me put your mind at rest. You may have to pay £20k currently for a Tesla battery but you can get a Renault Zoe battery for £2-2,500.
There was the usual stream of callers making suspect claims about EVs today on LBC. One women claimed that an EV loses charge just sitting on your drive. We had no experience of what would happen if we left our EV unused for 2 weeks while on holiday this year. We left it on the drive and used the Jazz to go to the airport. We left the car at 100% and it was still at 100% on our return.
I cant escape the image of the decaying hulks of thousands of electric cars that no one has the money, or inclination, to spend £20k to buy a replacement battery after 10 years or so. My 12 year old car has had a couple of hoses replaced since I've owned it. £120
Most batteries will do 600k miles, and there are EVs with million on the clock on their original batteries
Do possibly, but to what level? My Cabbie has a model Y, bought brand new about 16 months ago, now got 140k on it, battery is now down to a little over 80%. It'll be next to no use to him once that gets down to about 60% in another 18 months time. It's bad enough he 'charges' about 15% more now as he can't do quite as many trips a day (charging time!)
So if I’m reading the above correctly, an EV with a new battery will do 600k miles on that original battery so the need for any EV owner to replace a battery at any point is extremely unlikely. Unlikely even if that 600k turns out to be 300k. That’s something I’m not aware of and in many respects is a game changer. On the other hand I understand most EV batteries warranties last for 8 - 15 years or 100k miles. Somewhat of a discrepancy here ? A more realistic figure is 150k miles, so around 15 years which to me seems decent enough.
See above, it's not really how long they last but how they last. The batteries degrade so distance they are able to travel lessons mile by mile.
My only experience of an EV was a courtesy/hire car from Gatwick. Enterprise assured me that it had ample charge to get me the 83 miles back to Broadstairs. When we got in the car it showed a range of just under 200 miles. By the time we got home it was down to about 20. It was the most stressful drive that I have ever had. Who wants to drive like that?
Gordon Brown had everybody rushing to by diesel vehicles as they were greener than petrol ones although they were more polluting. The large number of diesels sold on his advice was the precusser to today's problems.
I think that’s true but politicians make policy on the advice of industry and scientific experts.
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So, what, half the price?
So £10k?
£5K?
The blinkered advocates say any criticism is created by the oil companies, deep state or the plain ignorant.
But there are valid questions that need answering.
See above, it's not really how long they last but how they last. The batteries degrade so distance they are able to travel lessons mile by mile.
When we got in the car it showed a range of just under 200 miles. By the time we got home it was down to about 20. It was the most stressful drive that I have ever had. Who wants to drive like that?