Great to see a group of middle aged white men chortling to themselves about a tradition of an indigenous people that this country colonised. Great look 👍🏼
There's that saying again, "middle aged and white". It really is a crime.
It’s tedious isn’t it! Gammon is funny though, because it’s the lamest insult I think I’ve heard!
Great to see a group of middle aged white men chortling to themselves about a tradition of an indigenous people that this country colonised. Great look 👍🏼
Don't be such a fanny ffs
And now using women's genitals as an insult. I mean really guys, are we playing gammon bingo now?
Its American for arse. Please don't assume, thanks.
Some interesting views on here about the pros and cons of the Haka. Two points: Ireland kind of have an edge having the right to sing two national anthems prior to internationals - the Soldier's Song and the rousing Ireland's Call (enabling their Captain and others from NI to sing along).
Also err technically the Maori are not indigenous to New Zealand but rather Polynesia. They are thought to have started colonising mainly North Island of NZ later than the Normans invaded England.
Some interesting views on here about the pros and cons of the Haka. Two points: Ireland kind of have an edge having the right to sing two national anthems prior to internationals - the Soldier's Song and the rousing Ireland's Call (enabling their Captain and others from NI to sing along).
Also err technically the Maori are not indigenous to New Zealand but rather Polynesia. They are thought to have started colonising mainly North Island of NZ later than the Normans invaded England.
So the Haka is in fact a celebration of the Maori people colonial past. That's nothing to be proud of and has no place in 2019
I am ambiguous about it, but if, as @Dugdaleclass says, the opposition are supposed to act in a certain way (presumably a at the request of the rugby authorities), and are looked down on if they don't, then it is bollocks.
I don't see why any national side should be given special dispensation to do anything that others are not.
We could start a tradition where opposition teams have to change in the car park...
Some interesting views on here about the pros and cons of the Haka. Two points: Ireland kind of have an edge having the right to sing two national anthems prior to internationals - the Soldier's Song and the rousing Ireland's Call (enabling their Captain and others from NI to sing along).
Also err technically the Maori are not indigenous to New Zealand but rather Polynesia. They are thought to have started colonising mainly North Island of NZ later than the Normans invaded England.
So the Haka is in fact a celebration of the Maori people colonial past. That's nothing to be proud of and has no place in 2019
Well, yeah, they literally colonised it. As in - no human beings were there before.
If I was an opponent I would just turn my back on it. It's supposed to intimidatary......cant intimidate if you dont take any notice of it.
It's also a means of determining which of their opponents are brave, respectful warriors and which are trembling cowards. Turning your back on it would help make that decision far easier.
So the Haka trumps all. It shows them to be brave warriors and anyone who don't watch and respect it, is not a warrior and is a trembling coward. What about if the person turning their back fronts em and kicks the fuck out of the team one by one, once they finished pulling faces?
Jesus wept, the original question was obviously asked purely in the rugby / sporting sense, does anyone find the Kiwis doing he Haka embarrassing etc. Now, cheers to the usual suspects its like it's an attack on Māori culture, which it clearly ain't.
No. Turning your back on it is cowardly and disrespectful. That's why it's rare to see rugby players do it, because, generally, they're neither.
My answer to Golfie's question was also purely in the "rugby/sporting sense".
It's so hard to know what is and isn't cultural appropriation these days.
I bloody hate that term.
Cultural appropriation is a compliment. Someone copies something from your culture because they enjoy it. That's a celebration of diversity ffs.
Yeah, i mean why can't those indigenous people just let us take their shit? We like it, so why can't we have it?
I guess I should've guessed a thread about something in rugby was gonna be filled with gammon chortling about how funny ethnic minorities are.
It was fun while it lasted, but you're trying to hard now.
And here we have a middle aged white man slowly realising he's actually been a bit racist. Now, instead of apologising he simply gets defensive, huffy and red faced. A state known today as "gammon".
It's so hard to know what is and isn't cultural appropriation these days.
I bloody hate that term.
Cultural appropriation is a compliment. Someone copies something from your culture because they enjoy it. That's a celebration of diversity ffs.
Yeah, i mean why can't those indigenous people just let us take their shit? We like it, so why can't we have it?
I guess I should've guessed a thread about something in rugby was gonna be filled with gammon chortling about how funny ethnic minorities are.
You on a wind up? Where did I say about taking anything from anyone. I said cultural appropriation is a celebration of diversity.
I sincerely hope you don't try to cook other nations recipes or go on holiday to experience the ways of their lives etc... Never learn another language.
By the way, I did not insult the indigenous peoples of New Zealand or anywhere else in my post. I did not make any jokes about ethnic minorities.
If I was an opponent I would just turn my back on it. It's supposed to intimidatary......cant intimidate if you dont take any notice of it.
It's also a means of determining which of their opponents are brave, respectful warriors and which are trembling cowards. Turning your back on it would help make that decision far easier.
So the Haka trumps all. It shows them to be brave warriors and anyone who don't watch and respect it, is not a warrior and is a trembling coward. What about if the person turning their back fronts em and kicks the fuck out of the team one by one, once they finished pulling faces?
Jesus wept, the original question was obviously asked purely in the rugby / sporting sense, does anyone find the Kiwis doing he Haka embarrassing etc. Now, cheers to the usual suspects its like it's an attack on Māori culture, which it clearly ain't.
No. Turning your back on it is cowardly and disrespectful. That's why it's rare to see rugby players do it, because, generally, they're neither.
My answer to Golfie's question was also purely in the "rugby/sporting sense".
Who says its disrespectful? The bloke spitting all over me whilst dancing with his tongue out?
It's so hard to know what is and isn't cultural appropriation these days.
I bloody hate that term.
Cultural appropriation is a compliment. Someone copies something from your culture because they enjoy it. That's a celebration of diversity ffs.
Yeah, i mean why can't those indigenous people just let us take their shit? We like it, so why can't we have it?
I guess I should've guessed a thread about something in rugby was gonna be filled with gammon chortling about how funny ethnic minorities are.
You on a wind up? Where did I say about taking anything from anyone. I said cultural appropriation is a celebration of diversity.
I sincerely hope you don't try to cook other nations recipes or go on holiday to experience the ways of their lives etc... Never learn another language.
By the way, I did not insult the indigenous peoples of New Zealand or anywhere else in my post. I did not make any jokes about ethnic minorities.
What the frick is gammon chortling?
There's a giant difference between comparing the haka to the cha cha slide and cooking yourself a curry.
It's so hard to know what is and isn't cultural appropriation these days.
I bloody hate that term.
Cultural appropriation is a compliment. Someone copies something from your culture because they enjoy it. That's a celebration of diversity ffs.
Yeah, i mean why can't those indigenous people just let us take their shit? We like it, so why can't we have it?
I guess I should've guessed a thread about something in rugby was gonna be filled with gammon chortling about how funny ethnic minorities are.
It was fun while it lasted, but you're trying to hard now.
And here we have a middle aged white man slowly realising he's actually been a bit racist. Now, instead of apologising he simply gets defensive, huffy and red faced. A state known today as "gammon".
hahaha put your rod away. 'middle aged'..cheeky little Kuntaddick.
Some interesting views on here about the pros and cons of the Haka. Two points: Ireland kind of have an edge having the right to sing two national anthems prior to internationals - the Soldier's Song and the rousing Ireland's Call (enabling their Captain and others from NI to sing along).
Also err technically the Maori are not indigenous to New Zealand but rather Polynesia. They are thought to have started colonising mainly North Island of NZ later than the Normans invaded England.
So the Haka is in fact a celebration of the Maori people colonial past. That's nothing to be proud of and has no place in 2019
Well, yeah, they literally colonised it. As in - no human beings were there before.
Not true.
The Greeks colonised parts of Italy and visa versa. Can you provide evidence the Maori were the first people to live in New Zealand?
Their history only dates back 700 years... Who is to say that the last inhabitants weren't wiped from history?
colonize
/ˈkɒlənʌɪz/
verb
past tense: colonised; past participle: colonised
send settlers to (a place) and establish political control over it.
Similar:
settle (in)
establish a colony in
people
populate
pioneer
open up
found
overrun
occupy
take over
seize
capture
take possession of
annex
subjugate
hegemonize
Opposite:
leave
grant independence to
settle among and establish control over (the indigenous people of an area).
"they sought to discredit the peoples they were colonizing"
appropriate (a place or domain) for one's own use.
"a small town in a part of the Hudson Valley fast being colonized by weekenders"
It's so hard to know what is and isn't cultural appropriation these days.
I bloody hate that term.
Cultural appropriation is a compliment. Someone copies something from your culture because they enjoy it. That's a celebration of diversity ffs.
Yeah, i mean why can't those indigenous people just let us take their shit? We like it, so why can't we have it?
I guess I should've guessed a thread about something in rugby was gonna be filled with gammon chortling about how funny ethnic minorities are.
It was fun while it lasted, but you're trying to hard now.
And here we have a middle aged white man slowly realising he's actually been a bit racist. Now, instead of apologising he simply gets defensive, huffy and red faced. A state known today as "gammon".
hahaha put your rod away. 'middle aged'..cheeky little Kuntaddick.
It's so hard to know what is and isn't cultural appropriation these days.
I bloody hate that term.
Cultural appropriation is a compliment. Someone copies something from your culture because they enjoy it. That's a celebration of diversity ffs.
Yeah, i mean why can't those indigenous people just let us take their shit? We like it, so why can't we have it?
I guess I should've guessed a thread about something in rugby was gonna be filled with gammon chortling about how funny ethnic minorities are.
It was fun while it lasted, but you're trying to hard now.
And here we have a middle aged white man slowly realising he's actually been a bit racist. Now, instead of apologising he simply gets defensive, huffy and red faced. A state known today as "gammon".
hahaha put your rod away. 'middle aged'..cheeky little Kuntaddick.
It's so hard to know what is and isn't cultural appropriation these days.
I bloody hate that term.
Cultural appropriation is a compliment. Someone copies something from your culture because they enjoy it. That's a celebration of diversity ffs.
Yeah, i mean why can't those indigenous people just let us take their shit? We like it, so why can't we have it?
I guess I should've guessed a thread about something in rugby was gonna be filled with gammon chortling about how funny ethnic minorities are.
It was fun while it lasted, but you're trying to hard now.
And here we have a middle aged white man slowly realising he's actually been a bit racist. Now, instead of apologising he simply gets defensive, huffy and red faced. A state known today as "gammon".
If you are older than 12 you need to log off and have a serious think about how you've spent this afternoon.
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Gammon is funny though, because it’s the lamest insult I think I’ve heard!
Cultural appropriation is a compliment. Someone copies something from your culture because they enjoy it. That's a celebration of diversity ffs.
Also err technically the Maori are not indigenous to New Zealand but rather Polynesia. They are thought to have started colonising mainly North Island of NZ later than the Normans invaded England.
I guess I should've guessed a thread about something in rugby was gonna be filled with gammon chortling about how funny ethnic minorities are.
I don't see why any national side should be given special dispensation to do anything that others are not.
We could start a tradition where opposition teams have to change in the car park...
My answer to Golfie's question was also purely in the "rugby/sporting sense".
I sincerely hope you don't try to cook other nations recipes or go on holiday to experience the ways of their lives etc... Never learn another language.
By the way, I did not insult the indigenous peoples of New Zealand or anywhere else in my post. I did not make any jokes about ethnic minorities.
What the frick is gammon chortling?
The Greeks colonised parts of Italy and visa versa. Can you provide evidence the Maori were the first people to live in New Zealand?
Their history only dates back 700 years... Who is to say that the last inhabitants weren't wiped from history?
No way anyone born after 1980 is called Gary.