I’m really disappointed with Joe. Unfortunately he has been heavily influenced by his slimy agent. I’m not normally bitter about players leaving but this is about money not about football. But ultimately this is down to poor management from RD
Great words from Lee but Aribo is only worried about his bank balance, not his growth playing competive games every week. Personally I hope he goes, only interested in players who want to play for Charlton.
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Every single Charlton player would leave Charlton in a heartbeat if they were offered enough. Aribo is one bad injury from having his football career ended at an early stage. Ask Mark Penfold or Darren Pitcher. He now has the chance to set himself up for life. As it is he has played nearly twice as many games for Charlton as a certain Lee Bowyer did before he shot off to Leeds. That’s no criticism of Bowyer, merely the way it is.
If one had a Charlton team composed only of players whose limit of footballing and financial ambition was to turn out for Charlton it would be inhabiting the lower reaches of a county league at best.
Great words from Lee but Aribo is only worried about his bank balance, not his growth playing competive games every week. Personally I hope he goes, only interested in players who want to play for Charlton.
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Every single Charlton player would leave Charlton in a heartbeat if they were offered enough. Aribo is one bad injury from having his football career ended at an early stage. Ask Mark Penfold or Darren Pitcher. He now has the chance to set himself up for life. As it is he has played nearly twice as many games for Charlton as a certain Lee Bowyer did before he shot off to Leeds. That’s no criticism of Bowyer, merely the way it is.
If one had a Charlton team composed only of players whose limit of footballing and financial ambition was to turn out for Charlton it would be inhabiting the lower reaches of a county league at best.
Great words from Lee but Aribo is only worried about his bank balance, not his growth playing competive games every week. Personally I hope he goes, only interested in players who want to play for Charlton.
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Every single Charlton player would leave Charlton in a heartbeat if they were offered enough. Aribo is one bad injury from having his football career ended at an early stage. Ask Mark Penfold or Darren Pitcher. He now has the chance to set himself up for life. As it is he has played nearly twice as many games for Charlton as a certain Lee Bowyer did before he shot off to Leeds. That’s no criticism of Bowyer, merely the way it is.
If one had a Charlton team composed only of players whose limit of footballing and financial ambition was to turn out for Charlton it would be inhabiting the lower reaches of a county league at best.
Joe should have listened to Bowyer, the man that has brought more to Aribo's game, and has played at the top level. Lee is on the money when he states that players go to Scotland at the end of their football lives, another valid point Bowyer makes is that players don't leave either of the big two and play at a high level in the premiership. I think in a couple of years Joe will look back on this move and realise it wasn't the best of choices and sadly has been pushed there by his agent for the pound note.
Strongly disagree with those criticising Aribo. Who do you think knew most about what was being offered? Him or you?
Why on earth would he stay at Charlton after the way RD treated him? We are still a basket case, remember.
You might think Villa or Soton is a better option, he did not. They may be in the Championship in 2021, and he could be playing in the Champions League, who knows?
Great words from Lee but Aribo is only worried about his bank balance, not his growth playing competive games every week. Personally I hope he goes, only interested in players who want to play for Charlton.
Daft post.
Every single Charlton player would leave Charlton in a heartbeat if they were offered enough. Aribo is one bad injury from having his football career ended at an early stage. Ask Mark Penfold or Darren Pitcher. He now has the chance to set himself up for life. As it is he has played nearly twice as many games for Charlton as a certain Lee Bowyer did before he shot off to Leeds. That’s no criticism of Bowyer, merely the way it is.
If one had a Charlton team composed only of players whose limit of footballing and financial ambition was to turn out for Charlton it would be inhabiting the lower reaches of a county league at best.
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We are all one step from having our career finished anything can happen to us in our daily life being going to or from work or whilst doing it. They are well compensated in the event of that happening.
Not everyone would leave for more money the majority would but not everyone Matt Le Tissier/Glen Hoddle for example, there are many more if I could be bothered to think about it.
Its obvious players will come and go and for more money just dont ask me to go arghh good luck when they leave, I also know Joe is not a Charlton fan as probably most of the squad arnt, doesn't stop me feeling pissed off about it. The move to Rangers in my view if thats ok, is at is a step side ways not a step up,
I am sure he will say that Rangers are the only club he would have left Charlton for. As I said before only interested in players who want to play for Charlton.
Great words from Lee but Aribo is only worried about his bank balance, not his growth playing competive games every week. Personally I hope he goes, only interested in players who want to play for Charlton.
Daft post.
Every single Charlton player would leave Charlton in a heartbeat if they were offered enough. Aribo is one bad injury from having his football career ended at an early stage. Ask Mark Penfold or Darren Pitcher. He now has the chance to set himself up for life. As it is he has played nearly twice as many games for Charlton as a certain Lee Bowyer did before he shot off to Leeds. That’s no criticism of Bowyer, merely the way it is.
If one had a Charlton team composed only of players whose limit of footballing and financial ambition was to turn out for Charlton it would be inhabiting the lower reaches of a county league at best.
Dafter post.
We are all one step from having our career finished anything can happen to us in our daily life being going to or from work or whilst doing it. They are well compensated in the event of that happening.
Not everyone would leave for more money the majority would but not everyone Matt Le Tissier/Glen Hoddle for example, there are many more if I could be bothered to think about it.
Its obvious players will come and go and for more money just dont ask me to go arghh good luck when they leave, I also know Joe is not a Charlton fan as probably most of the squad arnt, doesn't stop me feeling pissed off about it. The move to Rangers in my view if thats ok, is at is a step side ways not a step up,
I am sure he will say that Rangers are the only club he would have left Charlton for. As I said before only interested in players who want to play for Charlton.
Footballers, by the nature of their profession, have far shorter careers than most of us. They are much more likely to suffer a career connected injury than most of us. In the circumstances it makes sense for them to insure themselves against this by earning as much as possible, as soon as possible.
Matt Le Tissier and Glen Hoddle played for virtually the whole of their careers before the advent of the Premier League and wall to wall television changed the nature of football finances. Hoddle played for Spurs who were, and are, one of the richest clubs in the country. He would have been one the highest paid players in the country at the time he was playing. Even so, he left Spurs for Monaco so he could be paid even more.
Le Tissier played for Southampton in the top division for all of his meaningful career at a time when there wasn’t the disparity of earnings between clubs that there is today. He wouldn’t been offered a deal to triple his earnings at another club.
In the days of the maximum wage players were much more likely to stay for long periods for one club. This was because there wasn’t such a financial incentive to move. In the fifties there were players playing in the old 3rd division who were turning out for England.
There is no player in or near the first team at Charlton , who given the chance to double, triple or quadruple their earnings at another club wouldn’t be smashing the door down in their efforts to leave. It’s the same at other clubs.
Strongly disagree with those criticising Aribo. Who do you think knew most about what was being offered? Him or you?
Why on earth would he stay at Charlton after the way RD treated him? We are still a basket case, remember.
You might think Villa or Soton is a better option, he did not. They may be in the Championship in 2021, and he could be playing in the Champions League, who knows?
It is very simple why both Villa and Southampton are a better option than Rangers. Should Aribo moved to the premiership each and every week he would have had the opportunity to play against some of the best players in the world, testing him both physically and mentally also by doing so this would have made him a better player, and dare I say it got him a bigger move in a couple of seasons to a top six team. The premiership is now acknowledged as the in best league in the world. Factor in that Aribo as a player will be playing in front of sell out crowds week in week out, at some of the best stadiums. With Rangers there are only but a few games a season that you have the old firm games to test yourself and get the atmosphere. The remainder of the SPL teams the reality is that the other teams would either struggle in the championship/league one and the crowds as well as grounds are the standard of league one. A waste of a talented player who is certainly not going to better himself by playing in Scotland.
Joe ain’t the finished article as he showed during the second playoff game and long parts of the final ,
maybe he feels that it is a bigger club bigger expectation but still a very good place to grow and learn and from a very decent young English manger , Gerrard won’t be there in two more seasons and will get the chance for a decent English club , Aribo has the chance to impress and potentially follow Gerrard to bigger things
I don't get all this "short career" bollox. As a PLAYER maybe, but after that he is not likely going to be a hermit. A lot of players nowdays either go into management (still a decent wedge there) or coaching. If not they become pundits or something else in the game. Worse case scenario is they go & actually get a 9-5 job, like the rest of us. So he will still have a career until he wants to retire.
I'm not knocking that he is leaving us - that was on the cards as soon as RD reduced the contract offer at the start of last season. But as Bowyer says, how many top players join the Scottish premiership when they have the chance of joining the Premier League. I would even hazard a guess that The Championship (where CAFC are now playing) is a bigger & better league that the Scottish Premiership. Rangers usually struggle to even qualify for the Champions / Europa League so that venture could be over before its even begun.
No need to have an agent either. I wonder how many of CLifers have one to negotiate their next job or employment.
I personally think some people forget that yes Joe shone but it was in League One and he's never played above that level. At 200/300k then he's a risk worth taking but there was hardly a queue of Championship or PL clubs after him. In my opinion I don't think he's good enough for the PL and would be a slightly better than average player in the Championship. I've never really rated him as highly as most on here do. I wish him well in the SPL but I can't see him making a move from there to the EPL.
Weren’t you boycotting last season?
Yes, what has that got to do with it?
Not having a dig, just wondering about your comment / assessment if you haven't seen him play a lot of the time. He was exceptional in some games last season and far better than Shelvey was at the same level - I know Shelvey was 5 years younger but some players develop later in their careers; Parker for example didn't break through until he was a bit older. Lot to do but I think he's absolutely capable of making Premier League; although as Bow says moving to Rangers might not be the best route to that
Bowyer tells it straight. Love it. Only reason why you would swap the Premier League for Scottish football is money.
Premier league bench.
Southampton have Hojberg who is their captain and Ward-Prowse who's one of their best players who play in their midfield. Don't see Aribo replacing either of those, and neither did he, hence why he chose Rangers.
Good luck to him but Southampton would have been a better move. Another massive error from Roland , a £6 million player leaving for nothing , a year ago Roland should have given him a decent contract. Still your'e the business man Roland , what do I know
Didn't Josh Magennis say going to us in League One was a step up in competition from Kilmarnock? That tells you all you need to know about the SPL
Celtic and Rangers Championship quality with the rest of them League One standard.
In fact today it's been announced Hibs are signing two players one from Forest Green and the other Yeovil within the next 24 hours. Both League Two last season.
Bowyer is 100% right even if Scottish football doesn't want to hear it.
I don't get all this "short career" bollox. As a PLAYER maybe, but after that he is not likely going to be a hermit. A lot of players nowdays either go into management (still a decent wedge there) or coaching. If not they become pundits or something else in the game. Worse case scenario is they go & actually get a 9-5 job, like the rest of us. So he will still have a career until he wants to retire.
I'm not knocking that he is leaving us - that was on the cards as soon as RD reduced the contract offer at the start of last season. But as Bowyer says, how many top players join the Scottish premiership when they have the chance of joining the Premier League. I would even hazard a guess that The Championship (where CAFC are now playing) is a bigger & better league that the Scottish Premiership. Rangers usually struggle to even qualify for the Champions / Europa League so that venture could be over before its even begun.
No need to have an agent either. I wonder how many of CLifers have one to negotiate their next job or employment.
isn't an IFA like an agent? Don't you try and do the best for your clients financially?
I personally think some people forget that yes Joe shone but it was in League One and he's never played above that level. At 200/300k then he's a risk worth taking but there was hardly a queue of Championship or PL clubs after him. In my opinion I don't think he's good enough for the PL and would be a slightly better than average player in the Championship. I've never really rated him as highly as most on here do. I wish him well in the SPL but I can't see him making a move from there to the EPL.
Weren’t you boycotting last season?
Yes, what has that got to do with it?
Then surely you're as roughly informed as I am, having watched most matches on iFollow, makes it very hard to form a proper opinion.
I’ve seen him play live a number of times.
Surely it can’t be that big a number if you’ve been boycotting, tell Stu which games you went to last season...
I don't need to justify how many games I've seen him play live and I'm not going to. I didn't realise it was a requisite to do so to comment on Charlton Life.
Of course you don’t and of course it isn’t but, like the post match views, it carries more of an informed view when the comments are prefaced with ‘at the game’...and you have made it clear you are boycotting so if you don’t rate joe as highly as most on here that could be because most on here will have been at the games last season and regularly seen him play live
Didn't Josh Magennis say going to us in League One was a step up in competition from Hibs? That tells you all you need to know about the SPL
Celtic and Rangers Championship quality with the rest of them League One standard.
In fact today it's been announced Hibs are signing two players one from Forest Green and the other Yeovil within the next 24 hours. Both League Two last season.
Bowyer is 100% right even if Scottish football doesn't want to hear it.
Very very strange that he’s not yet signed? I am (somewhat stupidly), still praying that he’s been told to hold off as there’s a takeover about to happen and accordingly he’ll be offered a much better deal with us. Yeah.......I know!
There's 92 professional clubs in England If each club has 22 pro contracted players that's 2024 players.
If you then count the top non-league division as well we end up with around 116 clubs and 2552 players. Let's say they each have the same as our 'Coaching Staff' page implies:
Manager, Assistant Manager, Goalkeeping Coach, Head of Recruitment, Academy Manager Coach (18-23) Coach (17-18) Coach (12-16) Coach (5-11)
9 Coach level jobs per club = 1044 (potential) jobs.
This increases if like Basey, they choose to wash dirty kit or want to re-train as a physio/sports scientist etc.
But that's still 1508 without a job. We could say 1% of these will go into punditry etc... but come on... It's not many that will go on and get these jobs.
The vast majority from the top leagues will lead a life that means without proper planning they won't be able to get by for long on a normal 9-5 salary. As much as you might think this is more a lesson than a problem it's paying young people far too much at an age where they won't be thinking about their years after football as they'll all feel invincible and like they'll always live that lifestyle.
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Every single Charlton player would leave Charlton in a heartbeat if they were offered enough. Aribo is one bad injury from having his football career ended at an early stage. Ask Mark Penfold or Darren Pitcher. He now has the chance to set himself up for life. As it is he has played nearly twice as many games for Charlton as a certain Lee Bowyer did before he shot off to Leeds. That’s no criticism of Bowyer, merely the way it is.
If one had a Charlton team composed only of players whose limit of footballing and financial ambition was to turn out for Charlton it would be inhabiting the lower reaches of a county league at best.
I think in a couple of years Joe will look back on this move and realise it wasn't the best of choices and sadly has been pushed there by his agent for the pound note.
Why on earth would he stay at Charlton after the way RD treated him? We are still a basket case, remember.
You might think Villa or Soton is a better option, he did not. They may be in the Championship in 2021, and he could be playing in the Champions League, who knows?
Matt Le Tissier and Glen Hoddle played for virtually the whole of their careers before the advent of the Premier League and wall to wall television changed the nature of football finances. Hoddle played for Spurs who were, and are, one of the richest clubs in the country. He would have been one the highest paid players in the country at the time he was playing. Even so, he left Spurs for Monaco so he could be paid even more.
Le Tissier played for Southampton in the top division for all of his meaningful career at a time when there wasn’t the disparity of earnings between clubs that there is today. He wouldn’t been offered a deal to triple his earnings at another club.
In the days of the maximum wage players were much more likely to stay for long periods for one club. This was because there wasn’t such a financial incentive to move. In the fifties there were players playing in the old 3rd division who were turning out for England.
There is no player in or near the first team at Charlton , who given the chance to double, triple or quadruple their earnings at another club wouldn’t be smashing the door down in their efforts to leave. It’s the same at other clubs.
maybe he feels that it is a bigger club bigger expectation but still a very good place to grow and learn and from a very decent young English manger , Gerrard won’t be there in two more seasons and will get the chance for a decent English club , Aribo has the chance to impress and potentially follow Gerrard to bigger things
I don't get all this "short career" bollox. As a PLAYER maybe, but after that he is not likely going to be a hermit. A lot of players nowdays either go into management (still a decent wedge there) or coaching. If not they become pundits or something else in the game. Worse case scenario is they go & actually get a 9-5 job, like the rest of us. So he will still have a career until he wants to retire.
I'm not knocking that he is leaving us - that was on the cards as soon as RD reduced the contract offer at the start of last season. But as Bowyer says, how many top players join the Scottish premiership when they have the chance of joining the Premier League. I would even hazard a guess that The Championship (where CAFC are now playing) is a bigger & better league that the Scottish Premiership. Rangers usually struggle to even qualify for the Champions / Europa League so that venture could be over before its even begun.
No need to have an agent either. I wonder how many of CLifers have one to negotiate their next job or employment.
Southampton have Hojberg who is their captain and Ward-Prowse who's one of their best players who play in their midfield. Don't see Aribo replacing either of those, and neither did he, hence why he chose Rangers.
Celtic and Rangers Championship quality with the rest of them League One standard.
In fact today it's been announced Hibs are signing two players one from Forest Green and the other Yeovil within the next 24 hours. Both League Two last season.
Bowyer is 100% right even if Scottish football doesn't want to hear it.
Shame Aribo didn't ask us first.
for me he has now showed that as soon as more money if offered he will jump ship
I am (somewhat stupidly), still praying that he’s been told to hold off as there’s a takeover about to happen and accordingly he’ll be offered a much better deal with us.
Yeah.......I know!
There's 92 professional clubs in England If each club has 22 pro contracted players that's 2024 players.
If you then count the top non-league division as well we end up with around 116 clubs and 2552 players. Let's say they each have the same as our 'Coaching Staff' page implies:
Manager,
Assistant Manager,
Goalkeeping Coach,
Head of Recruitment,
Academy Manager
Coach (18-23)
Coach (17-18)
Coach (12-16)
Coach (5-11)
9 Coach level jobs per club = 1044 (potential) jobs.
This increases if like Basey, they choose to wash dirty kit or want to re-train as a physio/sports scientist etc.
But that's still 1508 without a job. We could say 1% of these will go into punditry etc... but come on... It's not many that will go on and get these jobs.
The vast majority from the top leagues will lead a life that means without proper planning they won't be able to get by for long on a normal 9-5 salary. As much as you might think this is more a lesson than a problem it's paying young people far too much at an age where they won't be thinking about their years after football as they'll all feel invincible and like they'll always live that lifestyle.