I personally think some people forget that yes Joe shone but it was in League One and he's never played above that level. At 200/300k then he's a risk worth taking but there was hardly a queue of Championship or PL clubs after him. In my opinion I don't think he's good enough for the PL and would be a slightly better than average player in the Championship. I've never really rated him as highly as most on here do. I wish him well in the SPL but I can't see him making a move from there to the EPL.
Via WIllem II's academy and 60+ games for Groningen.
Isn’t it going to be the same with Joe? Staines academy, then a few games for us then on to Scotland with Rangers.
The claim was never that he came out of their academy? Don’t be salty for the sake of it.
Correct, merely a point to say that careers don't go to die in Scotland as proved many times in the last couple seasons.
From your perspective how many teams from the Scottish PL would be competitive in the English Championship?
IMO: Rangers and Celtic would become Newcastle-lite. Majority of seasons in the top tier, loads of passionate fans but bottom half finishes at best with the odd season in the second tier.
Aberdeen would be mid table Championship. Like a Nottm Forest or Sheff Wed type.
Kilmarnock just got promoted from League One and will do well to survive this coming season. Similar to a Barnsley.
Hearts and Hibs are nothing special right now so on current performance might battle for League One play offs?
The rest are Shrewsbury/Rochdale/Scunthorpe level at best.
We said pretty much exactly the same thing here aha
Also, this is talking about the current squads going straight in as is. If Rangers and Celtic were actually playing in England the size of the clubs would make us do very very well there with tons more money than we'd have now.
How would you guys rate Aribo's creativity? We've been crying out for a #10 who can play a killer pass and score goals and I get the sense Aribo isn't that sort of player? More like a player who will battle for the ball and drive forward with his dribbling?
I should imagine he will definitely get you goals - I’d expect him to get to comfortably get to double figures in that league.
I said on this thread a couple of days ago that Aribo got 16 goals in 97 games for us.
Pretty confident that if he stays injury free he'll get more than 16 in one season for Rangers.
Scott Arfield, no exactly renowned for goalscoring managed 11 in 29 games last season.
How would you guys rate Aribo's creativity? We've been crying out for a #10 who can play a killer pass and score goals and I get the sense Aribo isn't that sort of player? More like a player who will battle for the ball and drive forward with his dribbling?
I should imagine he will definitely get you goals - I’d expect him to get to comfortably get to double figures in that league.
I said on this thread a couple of days ago that Aribo got 16 goals in 97 games for us.
Pretty confident that if he stays injury free he'll get more than 16 in one season for Rangers.
Scott Arfield, no exactly renowned for goalscoring managed 11 in 29 games last season.
Both Arfield's seasons in the Championship for Burnley he scored 8 league goals. And we've been playing Arfield off the striker or up on the right a lot.
I don't see Aribo scoring 16 goals in one season here tbh. You're also selectively including his stats as a 19 year old compared to Arfield close to his prime who is a Premier League midfielder, renowned goalscorer or not.
Rangers fan here, just wanted to give a Rangers perspective on this transfer. Seems to be a lot of talk about if it's a good move for him or not. Gerrard has done a very good job at Rangers so far, so chat that he hasn't isn't really true. And while I agree that Scottish football isn't the best standard, it's not as bad as you like to think. Several posters have also commented about how talented players come here and go to waste and we don't produce high level players?
Just an example of the players to come from Scotland in the last couple years: Andy Robertson, Virgil Van Dijk, Victor Wanyama, Steven Davis, Stuart Armstrong, John McGinn, Moussa Dembele. Also have players like Alfredo Morelos, Kieran Tierney, James Tavernier, Callum McGregor, Tom Rogic, Odsonne Edouard, James Forrest, Scott Arfield, Glen Kamara, David Turnbull, Scott McKenna, Connor Goldson, Kristopher Ajer and Allan McGregor who would all cut it in the Premier League as well and have been attracting that level of interest. So suggestions that his career will waste away in Scotland just isn't true.
Rangers are a huge club who are only improving, we played 14 European games last season and should have qualified for the knockout stages of the Europa League but still did well in our group. Celtic did make it through. Old Firm games are a big draw and even teams like Aberdeen, Kilmarnock, Hibs, Hearts and even Livingston are getting better and making the league more competitive.
Basically, between playing in Europe, competing for trophies for a huge club and a good stepping stone to the EPL on a good wage in a high pressure environment with a huge media presence, I don't see how Rangers are a bad move for the boy. He seems like a top player though and it sucks for you guys missing out on a big development fee but by the sounds of it you don't seem that bothered about it given your owner. Aribo is expected to have his medical today so hopefully it's all wrapped up soon!
In short, you have a great player on your books. The boy’s come on leaps and bounds in the last year and he’s only going to get better. One reservation is that he’s untested against the better players so he might go into hiding in your bigger matches. But time will tell. He’s a great kid and will have time for anyone who stops and wants a chat. Look after him for us ...
I mean as a Rangers fan I'd rather not praise Celtic signings but even going from Celtic to Southampton who were a top 7 club for £13m is a pretty good career move no? And it doesn't matter where he went first really, it's still that Scottish clubs have a conveyor belt of good players who go on and do well in the Premier League, same as Aribo could do.
Yes but Aribo is further on in his development than all of the players you have named and he would be about to play in a league far superior to the SPL. He could be playing in the EPL as soon as next January so we see a move to the SPL as a sideways step at the very best.
Aribo is 22 playing in League One?
All of the players I mentioned are same age or older and have Champions League or Europa League experience while winning trophies. I really don't see how you can say Aribo is further on in his development.
Outside of Rangers & Celtic the SPL is no better than League One. Have you seen the teams coming into League One recently? The reason for this is that the Championship is effectively becoming EPL 2. Six European games (if you qualify for the group stage) and 3 old firm derbies a season? Aribo is further on.
How would you guys rate Aribo's creativity? We've been crying out for a #10 who can play a killer pass and score goals and I get the sense Aribo isn't that sort of player? More like a player who will battle for the ball and drive forward with his dribbling?
I should imagine he will definitely get you goals - I’d expect him to get to comfortably get to double figures in that league.
I said on this thread a couple of days ago that Aribo got 16 goals in 97 games for us.
Pretty confident that if he stays injury free he'll get more than 16 in one season for Rangers.
Scott Arfield, no exactly renowned for goalscoring managed 11 in 29 games last season.
Both Arfield's seasons in the Championship for Burnley he scored 8 league goals. And we've been playing Arfield off the striker or up on the right a lot.
I don't see Aribo scoring 16 goals in one season here tbh. You're also selectively including his stats as a 19 year old compared to Arfield close to his prime who is a Premier League midfielder, renowned goalscorer or not.
I think Aribo could score 16 in the SPL, he could have done it here if he avoided that extra twist or turn in the oppo 18 yard box and just shot a bit more often. Still learning.
I mean as a Rangers fan I'd rather not praise Celtic signings but even going from Celtic to Southampton who were a top 7 club for £13m is a pretty good career move no? And it doesn't matter where he went first really, it's still that Scottish clubs have a conveyor belt of good players who go on and do well in the Premier League, same as Aribo could do.
Yes but Aribo is further on in his development than all of the players you have named and he would be about to play in a league far superior to the SPL. He could be playing in the EPL as soon as next January so we see a move to the SPL as a sideways step at the very best.
Aribo is 22 playing in League One?
All of the players I mentioned are same age or older and have Champions League or Europa League experience while winning trophies. I really don't see how you can say Aribo is further on in his development.
Outside of Rangers & Celtic the SPL is no better than League One. Have you seen the teams coming into League One recently? The reason for this is that the Championship is effectively becoming EPL 2. Six European games (if you qualify for the group stage) and 3 old firm derbies a season? Aribo is further on.
With all due respect, even IF all teams are League One standard, it's still 6 European games, 8 qualifiers, 4 Old Firm games and playing every week in front of 50,000 fans under higher pressure than any of your players including Aribo have been getting at Charlton in League One? Also further along into their careers with more experience, most of whom we signed from a higher level than League One in the first place. Many of our players have played in Premier League, Championship, Bundesliga, Ligue 1, Croatian league, Portuguese league already before playing for us.
Didn't Celtic have Leigh Griffiths upfront the other year? Can't quite imagine him banging them even for a mid-table PL side at any point in his career. There's one or two players now and again from Celtic that do well in the PL, but Cetlic would be bottom end PL and Rangers Championship in my opinion.
Rangers fan here, just wanted to give a Rangers perspective on this transfer. Seems to be a lot of talk about if it's a good move for him or not. Gerrard has done a very good job at Rangers so far, so chat that he hasn't isn't really true. And while I agree that Scottish football isn't the best standard, it's not as bad as you like to think. Several posters have also commented about how talented players come here and go to waste and we don't produce high level players?
Just an example of the players to come from Scotland in the last couple years: Andy Robertson, Virgil Van Dijk, Victor Wanyama, Steven Davis, Stuart Armstrong, John McGinn, Moussa Dembele. Also have players like Alfredo Morelos, Kieran Tierney, James Tavernier, Callum McGregor, Tom Rogic, Odsonne Edouard, James Forrest, Scott Arfield, Glen Kamara, David Turnbull, Scott McKenna, Connor Goldson, Kristopher Ajer and Allan McGregor who would all cut it in the Premier League as well and have been attracting that level of interest. So suggestions that his career will waste away in Scotland just isn't true.
Rangers are a huge club who are only improving, we played 14 European games last season and should have qualified for the knockout stages of the Europa League but still did well in our group. Celtic did make it through. Old Firm games are a big draw and even teams like Aberdeen, Kilmarnock, Hibs, Hearts and even Livingston are getting better and making the league more competitive.
Basically, between playing in Europe, competing for trophies for a huge club and a good stepping stone to the EPL on a good wage in a high pressure environment with a huge media presence, I don't see how Rangers are a bad move for the boy. He seems like a top player though and it sucks for you guys missing out on a big development fee but by the sounds of it you don't seem that bothered about it given your owner. Aribo is expected to have his medical today so hopefully it's all wrapped up soon!
That's pretty much what said.
It's a different kettle of fish.
In all seriousness...you are 100% right and I really see this as a solid bold positive move.
I think it also suggests Aribo is tough lad who is willing enough to do something that will give him a dramatic life changing experience...like sign for Rangers.
He is not afraid to try something new (even though he doesn't have to)
Didn't Celtic have Leigh Griffiths upfront the other year? Can't quite imagine him banging them even for a mid-table PL side at any point in his career. There's one or two players now and again from Celtic that do well in the PL, but Cetlic would be bottom end PL and Rangers Championship in my opinion.
They also had Moussa Dembele up front who is being linked to Man United for £50m
I feel like I've provided enough examples to show why Aribo can come here and have his career go well. Rangers haven't had as many pathways to the Premier League in recent years due to obvious reasons but we're getting back to it now with many of our current first team being able to make that step up now.
I mean as a Rangers fan I'd rather not praise Celtic signings but even going from Celtic to Southampton who were a top 7 club for £13m is a pretty good career move no? And it doesn't matter where he went first really, it's still that Scottish clubs have a conveyor belt of good players who go on and do well in the Premier League, same as Aribo could do.
Yes but Aribo is further on in his development than all of the players you have named and he would be about to play in a league far superior to the SPL. He could be playing in the EPL as soon as next January so we see a move to the SPL as a sideways step at the very best.
Aribo is 22 playing in League One?
All of the players I mentioned are same age or older and have Champions League or Europa League experience while winning trophies. I really don't see how you can say Aribo is further on in his development.
Outside of Rangers & Celtic the SPL is no better than League One. Have you seen the teams coming into League One recently? The reason for this is that the Championship is effectively becoming EPL 2. Six European games (if you qualify for the group stage) and 3 old firm derbies a season? Aribo is further on.
With all due respect, even IF all teams are League One standard, it's still 6 European games, 8 qualifiers, 4 Old Firm games and playing every week in front of 50,000 fans under higher pressure than any of your players including Aribo have been getting at Charlton in League One? Also further along into their careers with more experience, most of whom we signed from a higher level than League One in the first place. Many of our players have played in Premier League, Championship, Bundesliga, Ligue 1, Croatian league, Portuguese league already before playing for us.
But we will agree to disagree.
It wouldn't be 50,000 a week as some of the capacities in the SPL are under 5,000. Remember he has just played in front of 76,000 at Wembley for a third tier play off final! As you say we will agree to disagree
I mean as a Rangers fan I'd rather not praise Celtic signings but even going from Celtic to Southampton who were a top 7 club for £13m is a pretty good career move no? And it doesn't matter where he went first really, it's still that Scottish clubs have a conveyor belt of good players who go on and do well in the Premier League, same as Aribo could do.
Yes but Aribo is further on in his development than all of the players you have named and he would be about to play in a league far superior to the SPL. He could be playing in the EPL as soon as next January so we see a move to the SPL as a sideways step at the very best.
Aribo is 22 playing in League One?
All of the players I mentioned are same age or older and have Champions League or Europa League experience while winning trophies. I really don't see how you can say Aribo is further on in his development.
Outside of Rangers & Celtic the SPL is no better than League One. Have you seen the teams coming into League One recently? The reason for this is that the Championship is effectively becoming EPL 2. Six European games (if you qualify for the group stage) and 3 old firm derbies a season? Aribo is further on.
With all due respect, even IF all teams are League One standard, it's still 6 European games, 8 qualifiers, 4 Old Firm games and playing every week in front of 50,000 fans under higher pressure than any of your players including Aribo have been getting at Charlton in League One? Also further along into their careers with more experience, most of whom we signed from a higher level than League One in the first place. Many of our players have played in Premier League, Championship, Bundesliga, Ligue 1, Croatian league, Portuguese league already before playing for us.
But we will agree to disagree.
It wouldn't be 50,000 a week as some of the capacities in the SPL are under 5,000. Remember he has just played in front of 76,000 at Wembley for a third tier play off final! As you say we will agree to disagree
Okay well I think 25 matches a season at 50,000, including 2 at 60,000, not including any European teams we play or cup matches at Hampden, edges out one game at 76,000 aha.
Keith Downie Steven Gerrard has confirmed to @SkySportsNews that Joe Aribo is currently having a medical with Rangers. Hopes to have him join up with the squad here in the Algarve in the coming days. #RFC
You all know how good he is by now cause you've made in excess of 10 different threads about the lad and watched every single compilation of him on youtube. Anyone with common sense knows it's a step up, the only thing winding up some Charlton fans is Rangers claiming to be one of the biggest clubs in the world when you're not. Basically Sunderland residing in Scotland. The biggest clubs in the world don't sign league 1 and 2 players to play for their first team.
He will do good for you, Steven Gerrard is a wizard etc. Good luck in the league and now I don't see the point in anymore posts?
Isn't our player anymore unfortunately, would be under different circumstances that's that.
How would you guys rate Aribo's creativity? We've been crying out for a #10 who can play a killer pass and score goals and I get the sense Aribo isn't that sort of player? More like a player who will battle for the ball and drive forward with his dribbling?
I should imagine he will definitely get you goals - I’d expect him to get to comfortably get to double figures in that league.
I said on this thread a couple of days ago that Aribo got 16 goals in 97 games for us.
Pretty confident that if he stays injury free he'll get more than 16 in one season for Rangers.
Scott Arfield, no exactly renowned for goalscoring managed 11 in 29 games last season.
Both Arfield's seasons in the Championship for Burnley he scored 8 league goals. And we've been playing Arfield off the striker or up on the right a lot.
I don't see Aribo scoring 16 goals in one season here tbh. You're also selectively including his stats as a 19 year old compared to Arfield close to his prime who is a Premier League midfielder, renowned goalscorer or not.
How would you guys rate Aribo's creativity? We've been crying out for a #10 who can play a killer pass and score goals and I get the sense Aribo isn't that sort of player? More like a player who will battle for the ball and drive forward with his dribbling?
I should imagine he will definitely get you goals - I’d expect him to get to comfortably get to double figures in that league.
I said on this thread a couple of days ago that Aribo got 16 goals in 97 games for us.
Pretty confident that if he stays injury free he'll get more than 16 in one season for Rangers.
Scott Arfield, no exactly renowned for goalscoring managed 11 in 29 games last season.
Both Arfield's seasons in the Championship for Burnley he scored 8 league goals. And we've been playing Arfield off the striker or up on the right a lot.
I don't see Aribo scoring 16 goals in one season here tbh. You're also selectively including his stats as a 19 year old compared to Arfield close to his prime who is a Premier League midfielder, renowned goalscorer or not.
I think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
I think that’s going to turn out to be the understatement of the year
Bad move for him. A 10 handicapper at golf gets better playing against and with 0-5 handicappers. Not against 28 handicappers. He might stand out against Kilmarnock but I bet he goes missing against Celtic.
at the end of his career, I hope he won’t regret this
@RFCAM i think you will be pleasantly surprised with aribo even with you already seemingly rating him. Last season was his first full season in league football really and he was outstanding.
It is very difficult to get past him, he can drive forward and pick a pass and score a goal. Not a number 10 but bags and bags of potential.
Being young and inexperienced he can drift out of games and look a little languid but if he keeps him improving and learns from Gerrard he will become some player.
I fully expect him to be a £10m+ player in the PL inside 2 years. Our loss is your gain and i can only wish him all the best. I will follow his career with interest.
Think there’s a lot of disrespect towards the Scottish league and Joe in general right now.
Every chance that he can continue to progress up that way. Look at van Dijk. Yes, for every VVD there are 20 Joe Dodoos but can you blame an ambitious kid for believing he will be the 1 in 20?
I really hope he kicks on and ends up at a Premiership team and getting caps for England, but I just done see it happening with this move.
why didnt an ex celtic player just end up being one of the most highly rated defenders in the premiership with a champions league medal to go with those Scottish title ones.
It's done and dusted. I'm not in the know but I'm fairly confident we have seen the last of him at Charlton, frankly I can't wait for it to be done now, sick of all the clickbait articles etc. According to one Arsenal have suffered a massive blow losing him to Rangers...I don't know one Arsenal fan who really wanted them to sign him and I probably know more Arsenal than Charlton, journos.
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Also, this is talking about the current squads going straight in as is. If Rangers and Celtic were actually playing in England the size of the clubs would make us do very very well there with tons more money than we'd have now.
Has Aribo even gone anywhere yet?
Pretty confident that if he stays injury free he'll get more than 16 in one season for Rangers.
Scott Arfield, no exactly renowned for goalscoring managed 11 in 29 games last season.
I don't see Aribo scoring 16 goals in one season here tbh. You're also selectively including his stats as a 19 year old compared to Arfield close to his prime who is a Premier League midfielder, renowned goalscorer or not.
But we will agree to disagree.
That's pretty much what said.
It's a different kettle of fish.
In all seriousness...you are 100% right and I really see this as a solid bold positive move.
I think it also suggests Aribo is tough lad who is willing enough to do something that will give him a dramatic life changing experience...like sign for Rangers.
He is not afraid to try something new (even though he doesn't have to)
I feel like I've provided enough examples to show why Aribo can come here and have his career go well. Rangers haven't had as many pathways to the Premier League in recent years due to obvious reasons but we're getting back to it now with many of our current first team being able to make that step up now.
But we shall leave it there
Steven Gerrard has confirmed to @SkySportsNews
that Joe Aribo is currently having a medical with Rangers. Hopes to have him join up with the squad here in the Algarve in the coming days. #RFC
He will do good for you, Steven Gerrard is a wizard etc. Good luck in the league and now I don't see the point in anymore posts?
Isn't our player anymore unfortunately, would be under different circumstances that's that.
at the end of his career, I hope he won’t regret this
It is very difficult to get past him, he can drive forward and pick a pass and score a goal. Not a number 10 but bags and bags of potential.
Being young and inexperienced he can drift out of games and look a little languid but if he keeps him improving and learns from Gerrard he will become some player.
I fully expect him to be a £10m+ player in the PL inside 2 years. Our loss is your gain and i can only wish him all the best. I will follow his career with interest.
But it may be soon.