The thing I don't get is that we are hearing now from people on here what a nasty bit of work he is off the pitch. And yet we heard nothing to that effect when he played in our colours. It's almost as if he became a demon as soon as he left us.
Either that or he has always been like that and those individuals are being somewhat hypocritical. I suppose that's fans for you!
Probably the usual story of people picking up on something with a grain of truth in it and misrepresenting it for their own ends.
I am not in the know in any way at all but heard that Karlan got a bit 'Bertie Big Bollocks' as he progressed towards the first team at a young age. He was either still 16 or just 17 when he first played. I've read an article where Karlan admitted that he went on loan to Cambridge with completely the wrong attitude and had a lot of thinking and changing to do.
There will inevitably be speculation about the off-field stuff of a year or two back which will be uncomplimentary so it is easy to paint him in a bad light if you are of that mindset.
My view is that he is a young man who has made mistakes, learned from them and gone on to make the best of the talent he has. Sadly, through no fault of his, that was not to be with us.
I don’t like him. I didn’t like him when he was with us. I didn’t like him when he had 3 names. I didn’t like him when he couldn’t hit a barn door with a banjo, and I don’t like him now he can. I didn’t like him before his arrest, and I didn’t like him when acquitted. I didn’t like him before yesterday, and I still don’t like him the same amount today. I don’t boo him, I don’t cheer him. I look at his face , and there’s something about it I don’t like.
I don’t like him. I didn’t like him when he was with us. I didn’t like him when he had 3 names. I didn’t like him when he couldn’t hit a barn door with a banjo, and I don’t like him now he can. I didn’t like him before his arrest, and I didn’t like him when acquitted. I didn’t like him before yesterday, and I still don’t like him the same amount today. I don’t boo him, I don’t cheer him. I look at his face , and there’s something about it I don’t like.
He speaks well of you - says you have a lovely smile!
Genuinely can't believe some people losing their shit over this.
Player leaves for more money, fans of old club sing songs about him, player then does 'shushing' gesture to them. Oh wow, let's all go mad, i'm so offended he did this, what a c*nt he is.
Arsenal fans were the same with Adebayor, leaves for more money, fans sing abusive songs about him, then act all outraged when he scored and celebrated against them. Grown men rushing down steps to get near the front and foaming at the mouth. Bell ends.
If you're going to dish out abuse, then don't act all hard done by when the player reacts.
He posts 4 goals, a double and job done. This is the club that helped him progress since he was 12 and surely has a lot of friends still at the club. I don't have any respect for the guy. Also Albie Morgan should not liking that comment IMO.
And I guarantee you that in the unlikely event ESI do have a large pot of money hidden away and they decide to use some of that to bring Grant back to the Valley, most of those currently slagging him off will welcome him back.
And I guarantee you that in the unlikely event ESI do have a large pot of money hidden away and they decide to use some of that to bring Grant back to the Valley, most of those currently slagging him off will welcome him back.
Grant leaving was down to one idiot- Duchatelet.
We have some feral fans- it's part of the reason that I rarely go away. We have had some players that have left in poor circumstances- K(A)G isn't one of those.
Guaranteed if we stay up, Huddersfield go down, and we signed him for 10m and he scored 25 goals next season, then you along with everyone else on here would be cheering him on and singing his name.
And I guarantee you that in the unlikely event ESI do have a large pot of money hidden away and they decide to use some of that to bring Grant back to the Valley, most of those currently slagging him off will welcome him back.
Grant leaving was down to one idiot- Duchatelet.
We have some feral fans- it's part of the reason that I rarely go away. We have had some players that have left in poor circumstances- K(A)G isn't one of those.
Karlan wasnt even offered a new deal by us if I remember correctly - Until Huddersfield came in for him he was facing the prospect of getting a nasty injury
We cant complain he went chasing money because we didnt offer him and alternative ourselves!!
And I guarantee you that in the unlikely event ESI do have a large pot of money hidden away and they decide to use some of that to bring Grant back to the Valley, most of those currently slagging him off will welcome him back.
Grant leaving was down to one idiot- Duchatelet.
We have some feral fans- it's part of the reason that I rarely go away. We have had some players that have left in poor circumstances- K(A)G isn't one of those.
Was it Roland who sent him on loan to Crawley and signed his mate Leon Best? It was the footballing side that f**ked this one up. Robbo and Jacko didn't fancy him, clearly.
By the time he was starting he had 18 months left on his deal, why on earth would he sign a new one especially when the PL sides start sniffing around?
And I guarantee you that in the unlikely event ESI do have a large pot of money hidden away and they decide to use some of that to bring Grant back to the Valley, most of those currently slagging him off will welcome him back.
Grant leaving was down to one idiot- Duchatelet.
We have some feral fans- it's part of the reason that I rarely go away. We have had some players that have left in poor circumstances- K(A)G isn't one of those.
Karlan wasnt even offered a new deal by us if I remember correctly - Until Huddersfield came in for him he was facing the prospect of getting a nasty injury
We cant complain he went chasing money because we didnt offer him and alternative ourselves!!
To be fair, when he was arrested in the summer, I can't imagine many people here being desperate to offer him a new contract!
Then he came back (with the case still alive), starts scoring and suddenly he gets interest from higher up clubs...
And I guarantee you that in the unlikely event ESI do have a large pot of money hidden away and they decide to use some of that to bring Grant back to the Valley, most of those currently slagging him off will welcome him back.
Grant leaving was down to one idiot- Duchatelet.
We have some feral fans- it's part of the reason that I rarely go away. We have had some players that have left in poor circumstances- K(A)G isn't one of those.
Was it Roland who sent him on loan to Crawley and signed his mate Leon Best? It was the footballing side that f**ked this one up. Robbo and Jacko didn't fancy him, clearly.
By the time he was starting he had 18 months left on his deal, why on earth would he sign a new one especially when the PL sides start sniffing around?
It's not just on Roland that one, I'm afraid.
But I am sure in August 2019 when Bowyer clearly did want him, he would have signed a new contract. Robinson preferred big Josh, which agreed was utterly moronic.
Apologies if you are attached to Roland but I blame him wholly for us losing Aribo, Bauer, Grant, Taylor (soon) and Dijksteel or a combined pittance and leaving us with the (very very committed) dross that we've got now.
And I guarantee you that in the unlikely event ESI do have a large pot of money hidden away and they decide to use some of that to bring Grant back to the Valley, most of those currently slagging him off will welcome him back.
Grant leaving was down to one idiot- Duchatelet.
We have some feral fans- it's part of the reason that I rarely go away. We have had some players that have left in poor circumstances- K(A)G isn't one of those.
Karlan wasnt even offered a new deal by us if I remember correctly - Until Huddersfield came in for him he was facing the prospect of getting a nasty injury
We cant complain he went chasing money because we didnt offer him and alternative ourselves!!
Karlan Ahearne Grant took the money on a potential once in a lifetime pay day. Good luck to him.
And I guarantee you that in the unlikely event ESI do have a large pot of money hidden away and they decide to use some of that to bring Grant back to the Valley, most of those currently slagging him off will welcome him back.
Grant leaving was down to one idiot- Duchatelet.
We have some feral fans- it's part of the reason that I rarely go away. We have had some players that have left in poor circumstances- K(A)G isn't one of those.
Karlan wasnt even offered a new deal by us if I remember correctly - Until Huddersfield came in for him he was facing the prospect of getting a nasty injury
We cant complain he went chasing money because we didnt offer him and alternative ourselves!!
To be fair, when he was arrested in the summer, I can't imagine many people here being desperate to offer him a new contract!
Then he came back (with the case still alive), starts scoring and suddenly he gets interest from higher up clubs...
Exactly this.
How many people would've been bemoaning his departure had he gone on loan to Crawley and not done well, then perhaps been loaned out again the next season and never played for us again? People only moan because he turned his career round and scored goals for us.
In most cases, player departures fall into 2 categories:
Player doesn't do well and leaves - "good riddance, he was shit" Player does well and leaves for a bigger club or more money - "money grabbing c*nt"
He got pelters from a small percentage of fans on social media. He was here from a kid, doing the 'shhhh on Saturday was not cool in my opinion.
Look at Bauer when he scored this season.
A large part of the crowd clapped when his name was read out on Saturday, still he chose to do that.
As we say fans are fickle, football is fickle. But this reaction was CAUSED by Grant, he did that on Saturday and wound up loads of the fan base that was at the game.
In the cold light of day its a celebration and we are all adults. I'm now over it now
He got pelters from a small percentage of fans on social media. He was here from a kid, doing the 'shhhh on Saturday was not cool in my opinion.
Look at Bauer when he scored this season.
A large part of the crowd clapped when his name was read out on Saturday, still he chose to do that.
As we say fans are fickle, football is fickle. But this reaction was CAUSED by Grant, he did that on Saturday and wound up loads of the fan base that was at the game.
In the cold light of day its a celebration and we are all adults. I'm now over it now
I didn't hear much applause for Karlan on Saturday, but I heard plenty of abuse even before he scored
Taylor was gutted that Grant left. Really gutted. For me that’s enough not to write Karlan off as a Charlton hater, I don’t think he is, just been abused by some fans and responds as most of us would.
Bit dim of Albie to like a post of a guy who has scored a brace past your team in a 4-0 win but he is his mate and young.
Still, expectations are high these days for social media ability, expectations that no fan lives up to but yet 20 year old footballers need tto meet,
He got pelters from a small percentage of fans on social media. He was here from a kid, doing the 'shhhh on Saturday was not cool in my opinion.
Look at Bauer when he scored this season.
A large part of the crowd clapped when his name was read out on Saturday, still he chose to do that.
As we say fans are fickle, football is fickle. But this reaction was CAUSED by Grant, he did that on Saturday and wound up loads of the fan base that was at the game.
In the cold light of day its a celebration and we are all adults. I'm now over it now
Some of our fan base need to get a life - if someone going shush winds you up it suggests you've got anger issues.
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I am not in the know in any way at all but heard that Karlan got a bit 'Bertie Big Bollocks' as he progressed towards the first team at a young age. He was either still 16 or just 17 when he first played. I've read an article where Karlan admitted that he went on loan to Cambridge with completely the wrong attitude and had a lot of thinking and changing to do.
There will inevitably be speculation about the off-field stuff of a year or two back which will be uncomplimentary so it is easy to paint him in a bad light if you are of that mindset.
My view is that he is a young man who has made mistakes, learned from them and gone on to make the best of the talent he has. Sadly, through no fault of his, that was not to be with us.
I don’t boo him, I don’t cheer him. I look at his face , and there’s something about it I don’t like.
Player leaves for more money, fans of old club sing songs about him, player then does 'shushing' gesture to them. Oh wow, let's all go mad, i'm so offended he did this, what a c*nt he is.
Arsenal fans were the same with Adebayor, leaves for more money, fans sing abusive songs about him, then act all outraged when he scored and celebrated against them. Grown men rushing down steps to get near the front and foaming at the mouth. Bell ends.
If you're going to dish out abuse, then don't act all hard done by when the player reacts.
We have some feral fans- it's part of the reason that I rarely go away. We have had some players that have left in poor circumstances- K(A)G isn't one of those.
Guaranteed if we stay up, Huddersfield go down, and we signed him for 10m and he scored 25 goals next season, then you along with everyone else on here would be cheering him on and singing his name.
We cant complain he went chasing money because we didnt offer him and alternative ourselves!!
By the time he was starting he had 18 months left on his deal, why on earth would he sign a new one especially when the PL sides start sniffing around?
It's not just on Roland that one, I'm afraid.
Then he came back (with the case still alive), starts scoring and suddenly he gets interest from higher up clubs...
Apologies if you are attached to Roland but I blame him wholly for us losing Aribo, Bauer, Grant, Taylor (soon) and Dijksteel or a combined pittance and leaving us with the (very very committed) dross that we've got now.
How many people would've been bemoaning his departure had he gone on loan to Crawley and not done well, then perhaps been loaned out again the next season and never played for us again? People only moan because he turned his career round and scored goals for us.
In most cases, player departures fall into 2 categories:
Player doesn't do well and leaves - "good riddance, he was shit"
Player does well and leaves for a bigger club or more money - "money grabbing c*nt"
Look at Bauer when he scored this season.
A large part of the crowd clapped when his name was read out on Saturday, still he chose to do that.
As we say fans are fickle, football is fickle. But this reaction was CAUSED by Grant, he did that on Saturday and wound up loads of the fan base that was at the game.
In the cold light of day its a celebration and we are all adults. I'm now over it now
That's nothing special. When Williams leave Sparrows lane every day he's in bits.
I don't dislike or like him, not fussed how his career pans out either but can see why he has wound people up.
Righto, as you were.
Quotes from Huddersfield manager. Apologies if already posted.
“He got a bit of stick at Charlton which I thought was unfair, actually”.
"To come through their academy - they should be proud of him the Charlton Athletic supporters.”
"For him to get the criticism that he did, personally I thought it was unfair - so this was a great way to answer them (with two goals)”.