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Drones at Gatwick

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    And they're back. Planes grounded again.
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    Someone let the dogs out, please.
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    I recently watched the film Eye in the Sky, fictional I know but the tech is available, whereby the military can use satellites to view what’s happening on the ground.

    But these drones are still being missed. Too small?
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    stonemuse said:

    I recently watched the film Eye in the Sky, fictional I know but the tech is available, whereby the military can use satellites to view what’s happening on the ground.

    But these drones are still being missed. Too small?

    Keyhole class satellites can see pretty small stuff, but asking them to pinpoint something the size of a baking tray that is moving through the air at 35 mph and positively identify it as a drone is pure fantasy. Even if they were able to do it, you'd need one in the right orbit. And crystal clear weather. And for it to be repurposed away from whatever spying mission over the middle east or Russia that its already on
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    How long before drones get into Buckingham palace without being able to be seen or traced.

    Terrorists must be rubbing their hands together.

    Ridiculous situation.
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    edited December 2018
    stonemuse said:

    I recently watched the film Eye in the Sky, fictional I know but the tech is available, whereby the military can use satellites to view what’s happening on the ground.

    But these drones are still being missed. Too small?

    Unfortunately, Hollywood has given everybody the wrong idea about what satellite surveillance can actually achieve. Modern optics are remarkable and can produce images at ridiculous resolutions from hundreds of miles up, the difficulty is persistence of observation. Satellites are placed in low earth orbit, often in a polar orbit (north south) which gives a widespread coverage but for a limited period over any one ground position. They're doing about 17,000 mph up there, it's not long for a look-see. Something like an RAF Reaper drone can provide long term surveillance and in infra red but it's an unmanned aerial vehicle operating in busy airspace, just what everybody is trying to avoid and prevent.

    If you want to track a small object like a drone, you'd need something like they have on board modern warships which can track small fast objects like missiles, or counter-mortar radar. It's v expensive specialist military grade gear. This sort of thing has never been an issue at UK civilian airports so the infrastructure to defend it isn't there.

    Worryingly, this appears to be a deliberate and concerted attack, spaced at irregular but frequent intervals to cause maximum disruption with no certainty that it won't start up again at any minute.
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    i think all that hi tec shit on the roofs at Gatwick seen since yesterday. was made by Blue Peter ---a few egg boxes and a farie liquid bottles ----utter kak
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    How they saw a drone at 5:30 in the evening in the dark is beyond me. Equally how did they see it at 10 o'clock last night. Has this things got lights on it ? Surely not !

    It's getting more farcical every hour. I feel for the passengers who have now been at Gatwick for some day and a half. I'd give up now and go home.
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    Airports across Germany were under heightened security on Friday amid concerns over a suspected terror plot.
    Heavily armed police patrolled Stuttgart airport after two men were filmed on closed circuit cameras behaving suspiciously and taking photographs of a security gate on two separate occasions in the past week.
    The two men, who are believed to be Islamists known to German police, were also filmed behaving suspiciously at Paris’ Charles de Gaulle airport last week.
    Police in Germany raided three apartments on Friday morning as prosecutors confirmed they are investigating four people on suspicion of planning a serious act of violence.

    Flights have not been affected and there is currently no indication of any link to the drone chaos at Gatwick.
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    Flights are no longer suspended.
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    I'm flying out of Germany tomorrow (Munich)
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    I was on the phone to the airline, then an alert appeared on my phone saying it’s open again. At the same moment, the airline got an alert saying it’s closed again.

    This is like picking my fantasy team. I could just leave it and everything will be fine, but I’ll probably end up making a foolish decision and spend lots of money and end up somewhere really shitty.

    That analogy fell apart towards the end, I realise.
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    stonemuse said:

    I recently watched the film Eye in the Sky, fictional I know but the tech is available, whereby the military can use satellites to view what’s happening on the ground.

    But these drones are still being missed. Too small?

    They're not on the ground

    :wink:
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    JiMMy 85 said:

    I was on the phone to the airline, then an alert appeared on my phone saying it’s open again. At the same moment, the airline got an alert saying it’s closed again.

    This is like picking my fantasy team. I could just leave it and everything will be fine, but I’ll probably end up making a foolish decision and spend lots of money and end up somewhere really shitty.

    That analogy fell apart towards the endquite early on, I realise.

    :wink:
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    edited December 2018
    My friends live near Gatwick and drove down the Gatwick straights yesterday on the way to see us and said a drone was flying over the south terminal (Crawley side).

    So it definitely occurred... Seemed to be quite a decent size... *Allegedly*
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    edited December 2018
    Chizz said:

    stonemuse said:

    I recently watched the film Eye in the Sky, fictional I know but the tech is available, whereby the military can use satellites to view what’s happening on the ground.

    But these drones are still being missed. Too small?

    They're not on the ground

    :wink:
    Duhhh ... you get so boring
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    BBC News are reporting that Sussex Police have made two arrests in the drone case.
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    aliwibble said:

    BBC News are reporting that Sussex Police have made two arrests in the drone case.

    If charged they “must” be denied bail.

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    aliwibble said:

    BBC News are reporting that Sussex Police have made two arrests in the drone case.

    Given the chaos caused they must surely be looking at doing a few years at her Majesty's pleasure
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    I don't get what sort of fucking half wit could derive pleasure out of doing this sort of thing. It will be interesting to see if there is more to this than two drone geeks.
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    I don't get what sort of fucking half wit could derive pleasure out of doing this sort of thing. It will be interesting to see if there is more to this than two drone geeks.

    I'd wager it was a pair of ecojerks trying to 'save the planet'
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    Well the biggest book we have needs to be thrown at them.
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