He may have wept, but there is certainly not one quote from him in the bible condemning homosexuality! Mind you there are enough from others I feel a bit sorry for people who take everything they read in it as fact - that is how you get the idiots who are Muslim fundamentalists.
Personally, I don't believe Jesus was the son of god, but there are fewer people I have more respect for than him. I would call my values Christian values with pride.
Is that strictly true or, seeing as Jesus and God are deemed to be the same entity, he made such utterances in Leviticus 20:13 when speaking to Moses?
It refers to a man and a man 'laying down' like a man and a woman, which if so they are to be killed (not verbatim but roughly that). I thought it was Leviticus 18:22 but it's been a long time.
Funnily enough I don't believe it mentions a Woman and a Woman laying down like a man and a woman, sexist the bible if you ask me :-)
Well if you see God and Jesus as the same person, yes. I didn't think that was the prevailing view though. And of course if he was, he may have changed his mind since that conversation with Moses.
The whole Christian world sees them as the same entity, along with the Holy Spirit!
Indeed, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, only one god....... thank god.
Leviticus 18:22 says:
“You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.”
20:13 says:
"If a man also lie with mankind, as he @Leuth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."
He may have wept, but there is certainly not one quote from him in the bible condemning homosexuality! Mind you there are enough from others I feel a bit sorry for people who take everything they read in it as fact - that is how you get the idiots who are Muslim fundamentalists.
Personally, I don't believe Jesus was the son of god, but there are fewer people I have more respect for than him. I would call my values Christian values with pride.
Is that strictly true or, seeing as Jesus and God are deemed to be the same entity, he made such utterances in Leviticus 20:13 when speaking to Moses?
It refers to a man and a man 'laying down' like a man and a woman, which if so they are to be killed (not verbatim but roughly that). I thought it was Leviticus 18:22 but it's been a long time.
Funnily enough I don't believe it mentions a Woman and a Woman laying down like a man and a woman, sexist the bible if you ask me :-)
Well if you see God and Jesus as the same person, yes. I didn't think that was the prevailing view though. And of course if he was, he may have changed his mind since that conversation with Moses.
The whole Christian world sees them as the same entity, along with the Holy Spirit!
Indeed, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, only one god....... thank god.
Leviticus 18:22 says:
“You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.”
20:13 says:
"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."
Neither are very nice.
Ta, I'm amazed not having picked up a bible for over 30 years I remembered half right! I now also remember why I haven't picked one up for 30 years!
I like to read the Old Testament as it serves as a fantastic reassurance tool as to why objective reasoning and logic wins over religion.
The Age of Reason by Thomas Paine works for me.
Funnily enough, a mate of mine (a Mason) asked if I had ever considered joining. I suggested he ask his Lodge if they would allow me to swear the oath on The Age of Reason rather than a holy book. Suffice to say that I'm not a Mason!
He may have wept, but there is certainly not one quote from him in the bible condemning homosexuality! Mind you there are enough from others I feel a bit sorry for people who take everything they read in it as fact - that is how you get the idiots who are Muslim fundamentalists.
Personally, I don't believe Jesus was the son of god, but there are fewer people I have more respect for than him. I would call my values Christian values with pride.
Is that strictly true or, seeing as Jesus and God are deemed to be the same entity, he made such utterances in Leviticus 20:13 when speaking to Moses?
It refers to a man and a man 'laying down' like a man and a woman, which if so they are to be killed (not verbatim but roughly that). I thought it was Leviticus 18:22 but it's been a long time.
Funnily enough I don't believe it mentions a Woman and a Woman laying down like a man and a woman, sexist the bible if you ask me :-)
Well if you see God and Jesus as the same person, yes. I didn't think that was the prevailing view though. And of course if he was, he may have changed his mind since that conversation with Moses.
The whole Christian world sees them as the same entity, along with the Holy Spirit!
Indeed, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, only one god....... thank god.
Leviticus 18:22 says:
“You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.”
20:13 says:
"If a man also lie with mankind, as he @Leuth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."
He may have wept, but there is certainly not one quote from him in the bible condemning homosexuality! Mind you there are enough from others I feel a bit sorry for people who take everything they read in it as fact - that is how you get the idiots who are Muslim fundamentalists.
Personally, I don't believe Jesus was the son of god, but there are fewer people I have more respect for than him. I would call my values Christian values with pride.
Is that strictly true or, seeing as Jesus and God are deemed to be the same entity, he made such utterances in Leviticus 20:13 when speaking to Moses?
It refers to a man and a man 'laying down' like a man and a woman, which if so they are to be killed (not verbatim but roughly that). I thought it was Leviticus 18:22 but it's been a long time.
Funnily enough I don't believe it mentions a Woman and a Woman laying down like a man and a woman, sexist the bible if you ask me :-)
Well if you see God and Jesus as the same person, yes. I didn't think that was the prevailing view though. And of course if he was, he may have changed his mind since that conversation with Moses.
The whole Christian world sees them as the same entity, along with the Holy Spirit!
Indeed, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, only one god....... thank god.
Leviticus 18:22 says:
“You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.”
20:13 says:
"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."
Neither are very nice.
Ta, I'm amazed not having picked up a bible for over 30 years I remembered half right! I now also remember why I haven't picked one up for 30 years!
I like to read the Old Testament as it serves as a fantastic reassurance tool as to why objective reasoning and logic wins over religion.
The Age of Reason by Thomas Paine works for me.
Funnily enough, a mate of mine (a Mason) asked if I had ever considered joining. I suggested he ask his Lodge if they would allow me to swear the oath on The Age of Reason rather than a holy book. Suffice to say that I'm not a Mason!
He may have wept, but there is certainly not one quote from him in the bible condemning homosexuality! Mind you there are enough from others I feel a bit sorry for people who take everything they read in it as fact - that is how you get the idiots who are Muslim fundamentalists.
Personally, I don't believe Jesus was the son of god, but there are fewer people I have more respect for than him. I would call my values Christian values with pride.
Is that strictly true or, seeing as Jesus and God are deemed to be the same entity, he made such utterances in Leviticus 20:13 when speaking to Moses?
It refers to a man and a man 'laying down' like a man and a woman, which if so they are to be killed (not verbatim but roughly that). I thought it was Leviticus 18:22 but it's been a long time.
Funnily enough I don't believe it mentions a Woman and a Woman laying down like a man and a woman, sexist the bible if you ask me :-)
Well if you see God and Jesus as the same person, yes. I didn't think that was the prevailing view though. And of course if he was, he may have changed his mind since that conversation with Moses.
The whole Christian world sees them as the same entity, along with the Holy Spirit!
Indeed, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, only one god....... thank god.
Leviticus 18:22 says:
“You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.”
20:13 says:
"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."
Neither are very nice.
Ta, I'm amazed not having picked up a bible for over 30 years I remembered half right! I now also remember why I haven't picked one up for 30 years!
I like to read the Old Testament as it serves as a fantastic reassurance tool as to why objective reasoning and logic wins over religion.
The Age of Reason by Thomas Paine works for me.
Funnily enough, a mate of mine (a Mason) asked if I had ever considered joining. I suggested he ask his Lodge if they would allow me to swear the oath on The Age of Reason rather than a holy book. Suffice to say that I'm not a Mason!
We can all take the bible literally - if you give all your money to your wife you should be ok as it only said it is easier for a rich MAN ................
He may have wept, but there is certainly not one quote from him in the bible condemning homosexuality! Mind you there are enough from others I feel a bit sorry for people who take everything they read in it as fact - that is how you get the idiots who are Muslim fundamentalists.
Personally, I don't believe Jesus was the son of god, but there are fewer people I have more respect for than him. I would call my values Christian values with pride.
Is that strictly true or, seeing as Jesus and God are deemed to be the same entity, he made such utterances in Leviticus 20:13 when speaking to Moses?
It refers to a man and a man 'laying down' like a man and a woman, which if so they are to be killed (not verbatim but roughly that). I thought it was Leviticus 18:22 but it's been a long time.
Funnily enough I don't believe it mentions a Woman and a Woman laying down like a man and a woman, sexist the bible if you ask me :-)
Well if you see God and Jesus as the same person, yes. I didn't think that was the prevailing view though. And of course if he was, he may have changed his mind since that conversation with Moses.
The whole Christian world sees them as the same entity, along with the Holy Spirit!
Indeed, Father, Son and Holy Spirit, only one god....... thank god.
Leviticus 18:22 says:
“You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.”
20:13 says:
"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."
Neither are very nice.
Ta, I'm amazed not having picked up a bible for over 30 years I remembered half right! I now also remember why I haven't picked one up for 30 years!
I like to read the Old Testament as it serves as a fantastic reassurance tool as to why objective reasoning and logic wins over religion.
The Age of Reason by Thomas Paine works for me.
Funnily enough, a mate of mine (a Mason) asked if I had ever considered joining. I suggested he ask his Lodge if they would allow me to swear the oath on The Age of Reason rather than a holy book. Suffice to say that I'm not a Mason!
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Funnily enough, a mate of mine (a Mason) asked if I had ever considered joining. I suggested he ask his Lodge if they would allow me to swear the oath on The Age of Reason rather than a holy book. Suffice to say that I'm not a Mason!
Also Jesus was a crossmaker
So that's Capricorn is it?