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  • Apologies as I hate posting links as its lazy, and too many people cut and paste from them.

    Sums this guy up.

    https://countrysquire.co.uk/2016/11/14/an-open-letter-to-lbcs-james-obrien/
  • Stig said:

    Chizz said:

    Chizz said:

    se9addick said:
    There was a discussion about this on nick ferrari show this morning, and the banking 'expert' who is on every day, totally dismissed these figures. Banks shed thousands of jobs every year and have done since the year dot. Can't recall ever reading it here before or anyone who was bothered before.

    Its cold outside..... Blame brexit.
    Do you mean Nick Ferrari that well known pinko liberal who sits just to the right of Ghengis Khan ? Shock horror that he comes up with someone on his show to cast doubt onto the figures.

    The guy is on his show every day and is fair minded. At least Ferrari is fair and reasonable not like that other berk who comes on after him, who tells the most blatant lies and only gets his researchers to get lame ducks on whom he can bully.

    Anyway thought you handshaked to ignore me. Didn't last long.
    I like James O'Brien. I guess LBC do too, because he's delivered huge growth in listening numbers at that timeslot; and they've given him a hefty new contract.

    But, I have a question for you @Chippycafc - exactly what "blatant lies" has he told on air? Obviously I wouldn't ask you to name them all (because, if you're right and, as he's on air fifteen hours a week, there could be a lot of them). So, what are the top five "blatant lies" he has told? Specifically.

    It would be good to be able to draw up a list in order to furnish a complaint to LBC, the Dept for CMS and Rajar if he does tell "blatant lies"; but if not, maybe you might want to consider whether to withdraw what would be a libellous comment?

    What do you think @Chippycafc - do you have a list of "blatant lies" that backs up your accusation?
    Hi @Chippycafc - how are you getting on with the list of "blatant lies" that top radio and tv presenter, journalist and podcaster James O'Brien has told on air?

    Please don't go to too much trouble: five would be broadly sufficient to draw up a complaint. I hope you're not spending too much time drawing up a longer list than that.

    It doesn't even have to be the biggest "blatant lies". But as you haven't gone back and corrected your post you must be completely confident you're right. So, give us five absolute whoppers he's told on air. If you can.
    1. Pensions will crash and people with pensions would be worse off, not after brexit but immediately.
    2. All brexit voters didn't know what they were voting for.
    3. The economy is going to immediatly crash.
    4. He rattled on every other day that brexiters hate immigrants. I suspect he still does.
    5. Blames everything or twists it around brexit.

    And who put you in charge...

    Tell me 5 decent things about him.
    Don't know about the others, but that one is definitely true. Nobody had a clue. Not you, not me, not anybody else. That is precisely why there was all the 'Brexit means Brexit' claptrap as May tried to bluff her way though the uncomfortable fact that nobody had clue what it meant.
    That list of yours is just a list of what you perceive not a list of his lies is it . By way of example. How is number 5 a lie ? Unless you mean he doesn’t blame or twists everything around Brexit.

    In any case you think O’Brien is a liar and that’s view to which you are entitled.

    Its a list of what he has said on his show last year.....and early this year...if you listen to Nick Ferrari about 09.50 its repeated as his introduction to his show...his words not my perception.
  • Stig said:

    Chizz said:

    Chizz said:

    se9addick said:
    There was a discussion about this on nick ferrari show this morning, and the banking 'expert' who is on every day, totally dismissed these figures. Banks shed thousands of jobs every year and have done since the year dot. Can't recall ever reading it here before or anyone who was bothered before.

    Its cold outside..... Blame brexit.
    Do you mean Nick Ferrari that well known pinko liberal who sits just to the right of Ghengis Khan ? Shock horror that he comes up with someone on his show to cast doubt onto the figures.

    The guy is on his show every day and is fair minded. At least Ferrari is fair and reasonable not like that other berk who comes on after him, who tells the most blatant lies and only gets his researchers to get lame ducks on whom he can bully.

    Anyway thought you handshaked to ignore me. Didn't last long.
    I like James O'Brien. I guess LBC do too, because he's delivered huge growth in listening numbers at that timeslot; and they've given him a hefty new contract.

    But, I have a question for you @Chippycafc - exactly what "blatant lies" has he told on air? Obviously I wouldn't ask you to name them all (because, if you're right and, as he's on air fifteen hours a week, there could be a lot of them). So, what are the top five "blatant lies" he has told? Specifically.

    It would be good to be able to draw up a list in order to furnish a complaint to LBC, the Dept for CMS and Rajar if he does tell "blatant lies"; but if not, maybe you might want to consider whether to withdraw what would be a libellous comment?

    What do you think @Chippycafc - do you have a list of "blatant lies" that backs up your accusation?
    Hi @Chippycafc - how are you getting on with the list of "blatant lies" that top radio and tv presenter, journalist and podcaster James O'Brien has told on air?

    Please don't go to too much trouble: five would be broadly sufficient to draw up a complaint. I hope you're not spending too much time drawing up a longer list than that.

    It doesn't even have to be the biggest "blatant lies". But as you haven't gone back and corrected your post you must be completely confident you're right. So, give us five absolute whoppers he's told on air. If you can.
    1. Pensions will crash and people with pensions would be worse off, not after brexit but immediately.
    2. All brexit voters didn't know what they were voting for.
    3. The economy is going to immediatly crash.
    4. He rattled on every other day that brexiters hate immigrants. I suspect he still does.
    5. Blames everything or twists it around brexit.

    And who put you in charge...

    Tell me 5 decent things about him.
    Don't know about the others, but that one is definitely true. Nobody had a clue. Not you, not me, not anybody else. That is precisely why there was all the 'Brexit means Brexit' claptrap as May tried to bluff her way though the uncomfortable fact that nobody had clue what it meant.
    Well your bound to say as you have the same view as him...

    He's attacked Nigel Farage personally and brought his wife into it, I listen to Nigels show every night when I can and I have never heard him do the same, same with Katie Hopkins...

    He will never invite anyone on his show whose gun is loaded the same as his, if you start getting the better of him he just talks over you and cuts you off, that's why his researchers, brief callers before he accepts them.
    If only there was a video with James O'Brien interviewing Nigel Farage....
  • Apologies as I hate posting links as its lazy, and too many people cut and paste from them.

    Sums this guy up.

    https://countrysquire.co.uk/2016/11/14/an-open-letter-to-lbcs-james-obrien/

    Who's Jamie Foster? Some out-of-touch no mark who is thick enough to compare Chavez, Mugabe and Tony Blair in the same sentence without a hint of irony.
  • Apologies as I hate posting links as its lazy, and too many people cut and paste from them.

    Sums this guy up.

    https://countrysquire.co.uk/2016/11/14/an-open-letter-to-lbcs-james-obrien/

    What was your PhD in Chippy?

    It obviously didn't involve any research or the provision of links to respected and detailed academic and industry study reports to back up and confirm your conclusions. It seems like you must have just expressed your personal opinions about the subject backed up by anecdotes from friends and family!

    Where did you get this PhD? I have a spare couple of weeks coming up. I wouldn't mind getting one.
  • Chizz said:

    Chizz said:

    se9addick said:
    There was a discussion about this on nick ferrari show this morning, and the banking 'expert' who is on every day, totally dismissed these figures. Banks shed thousands of jobs every year and have done since the year dot. Can't recall ever reading it here before or anyone who was bothered before.

    Its cold outside..... Blame brexit.
    Do you mean Nick Ferrari that well known pinko liberal who sits just to the right of Ghengis Khan ? Shock horror that he comes up with someone on his show to cast doubt onto the figures.

    The guy is on his show every day and is fair minded. At least Ferrari is fair and reasonable not like that other berk who comes on after him, who tells the most blatant lies and only gets his researchers to get lame ducks on whom he can bully.

    Anyway thought you handshaked to ignore me. Didn't last long.
    I like James O'Brien. I guess LBC do too, because he's delivered huge growth in listening numbers at that timeslot; and they've given him a hefty new contract.

    But, I have a question for you @Chippycafc - exactly what "blatant lies" has he told on air? Obviously I wouldn't ask you to name them all (because, if you're right and, as he's on air fifteen hours a week, there could be a lot of them). So, what are the top five "blatant lies" he has told? Specifically.

    It would be good to be able to draw up a list in order to furnish a complaint to LBC, the Dept for CMS and Rajar if he does tell "blatant lies"; but if not, maybe you might want to consider whether to withdraw what would be a libellous comment?

    What do you think @Chippycafc - do you have a list of "blatant lies" that backs up your accusation?
    Hi @Chippycafc - how are you getting on with the list of "blatant lies" that top radio and tv presenter, journalist and podcaster James O'Brien has told on air?

    Please don't go to too much trouble: five would be broadly sufficient to draw up a complaint. I hope you're not spending too much time drawing up a longer list than that.

    It doesn't even have to be the biggest "blatant lies". But as you haven't gone back and corrected your post you must be completely confident you're right. So, give us five absolute whoppers he's told on air. If you can.
    1. Pensions will crash and people with pensions would be worse off, not after brexit but immediately.
    2. All brexit voters didn't know what they were voting for.
    3. The economy is going to immediatly crash.
    4. He rattled on every other day that brexiters hate immigrants. I suspect he still does.
    5. Blames everything or twists it around brexit.

    And who put you in charge...

    Tell me 5 decent things about him.
    These are great, @Chippycafc they really are. I don't honestly think they're enough to build a case on. Or for you to be able to defend your claim that he tells "blatant lies" all the time. Because you haven't quoted him saying 1, 2, 3, 4 or, in fact 5. What you "suspect" to be his opinion can't be held up as proof of him either holding that opinion or sharing it (or, in fact, that the opnion is an untruth). It would be difficult to establish that he has ever claimed to blame "everything" on Brexit. And you have a split infinitive in number 3. But, otherwise, you've come up with a very robust list. (If you can use the word "robust" to mean "five-point").

    No-one put me in charge, Chippy. Or everyone did. Let me explain: I am not "in charge". Unless by "in charge" you mean "in a position to satisfy a curiosity by asking a reasonable question". In which case, I am very much "in charge", as you are, and everyone else is. In fact, it's this curiosity for facts, a hunger for knowledge and a willingness to set aside pre-conceived notions that has been fearfully lacking in the debate prior to - and subsequent to - last year's vote. If we had all tried to learn more, if we'd listened to others more than ourselves, if we had all had a curiosity and hunger to acquire useful knowledge and drawn fact-based conclusions, we wouldn't be in this silly, avoidable mess, would we? (Oh sorry, that's a question: I know you don't like those. How very "in charge" of me).

    So, you'd like me to tell you five decent things about James O'Brien? (I'll overlook the missing "please", the aggressive demand (instead of question) for knowledge. Because learning stuff is good. (See paragraph above). And, in any case, who put you "in charge"?)

    1. He is well educated. He went t a good school. And, while many people go to good schools and fail to maximise that opportunity by failing to go to University, (example: Nigel Farage), he didn't: he went on to study at one of the country's best universities.

    2. He won an award for the handling of a complaint to his radio station. Some people have chosen to mock or criticise his handling of Frank Lampard, who called in to complain directly to him. However, this exchange earned him an award at the Sony Radio Academy Awards. Many other phone-in hosts have failed to win Sony Awards: Nigel Farage, for example.

    3. He's articulate, knowledgeable and keen both to learn and to disseminate knowledge. And this marks him out as a complete contrast to other radio phone-in presenters, like Nigel Farage, who is blinkered, dogmatic and patronising.

    4. He's a very, very good interviewer, able fully to eviscerate anyone with views that need to be called out. A good interviewer will ask good questions in order to extract interesting information. A great interviewer will be fully and comprehensively prepared and able to draw on that preparation to make their interviewee reveal more than they intend. Here's an example: James O'Brien interviewing a failed Parliamentary candidate.

    5. The Mystery Hour. LBC. Thursdays. 12:00 - 13:00. The best single hour of radio each week.

    @Chippycafc I don't bear any grudges: so I genuinely wish you all the best if you have to defend yourself against a libel charge. But, to be honest, I don't think your claim that he tells "blatant lies" all the time would fool anyone.
  • Apologies as I hate posting links as its lazy, and too many people cut and paste from them.

    Sums this guy up.

    https://countrysquire.co.uk/2016/11/14/an-open-letter-to-lbcs-james-obrien/

    What was your PhD in Chippy?

    It obviously didn't involve any research or the provision of links to respected and detailed academic and industry study reports to back up and confirm your conclusions. It seems like you must have just expressed your personal opinions about the subject backed up by anecdotes from friends and family!

    Where did you get this PhD? I have a spare couple of weeks coming up. I wouldn't mind getting one.
    Thames Valley University (slough) and Brunel University London, Environment and Building Services Engineering.

    If you can get to Old Trafford on the 7th/8th November I will giving a lecture on the effects of ventilation in particular environments. Was supposed to be my boss but he's dropped me in it.

    Took me years to get it, if you can get one go and do it. You certainly have a masters in posting links.
  • Fiiish said:

    Apologies as I hate posting links as its lazy, and too many people cut and paste from them.

    Sums this guy up.

    https://countrysquire.co.uk/2016/11/14/an-open-letter-to-lbcs-james-obrien/

    Who's Jamie Foster? Some out-of-touch no mark who is thick enough to compare Chavez, Mugabe and Tony Blair in the same sentence without a hint of irony.
    Got him from the same bin as you get your Chizz, I mean Fiish. Dead right though isn't he.
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  • Stig said:

    Chizz said:

    Chizz said:

    se9addick said:
    There was a discussion about this on nick ferrari show this morning, and the banking 'expert' who is on every day, totally dismissed these figures. Banks shed thousands of jobs every year and have done since the year dot. Can't recall ever reading it here before or anyone who was bothered before.

    Its cold outside..... Blame brexit.
    Do you mean Nick Ferrari that well known pinko liberal who sits just to the right of Ghengis Khan ? Shock horror that he comes up with someone on his show to cast doubt onto the figures.

    The guy is on his show every day and is fair minded. At least Ferrari is fair and reasonable not like that other berk who comes on after him, who tells the most blatant lies and only gets his researchers to get lame ducks on whom he can bully.

    Anyway thought you handshaked to ignore me. Didn't last long.
    I like James O'Brien. I guess LBC do too, because he's delivered huge growth in listening numbers at that timeslot; and they've given him a hefty new contract.

    But, I have a question for you @Chippycafc - exactly what "blatant lies" has he told on air? Obviously I wouldn't ask you to name them all (because, if you're right and, as he's on air fifteen hours a week, there could be a lot of them). So, what are the top five "blatant lies" he has told? Specifically.

    It would be good to be able to draw up a list in order to furnish a complaint to LBC, the Dept for CMS and Rajar if he does tell "blatant lies"; but if not, maybe you might want to consider whether to withdraw what would be a libellous comment?

    What do you think @Chippycafc - do you have a list of "blatant lies" that backs up your accusation?
    Hi @Chippycafc - how are you getting on with the list of "blatant lies" that top radio and tv presenter, journalist and podcaster James O'Brien has told on air?

    Please don't go to too much trouble: five would be broadly sufficient to draw up a complaint. I hope you're not spending too much time drawing up a longer list than that.

    It doesn't even have to be the biggest "blatant lies". But as you haven't gone back and corrected your post you must be completely confident you're right. So, give us five absolute whoppers he's told on air. If you can.
    1. Pensions will crash and people with pensions would be worse off, not after brexit but immediately.
    2. All brexit voters didn't know what they were voting for.
    3. The economy is going to immediatly crash.
    4. He rattled on every other day that brexiters hate immigrants. I suspect he still does.
    5. Blames everything or twists it around brexit.

    And who put you in charge...

    Tell me 5 decent things about him.
    Don't know about the others, but that one is definitely true. Nobody had a clue. Not you, not me, not anybody else. That is precisely why there was all the 'Brexit means Brexit' claptrap as May tried to bluff her way though the uncomfortable fact that nobody had clue what it meant.
    Well your bound to say as you have the same view as him...

    He's attacked Nigel Farage personally and brought his wife into it, I listen to Nigels show every night when I can and I have never heard him do the same, same with Katie Hopkins...

    He will never invite anyone on his show whose gun is loaded the same as his, if you start getting the better of him he just talks over you and cuts you off, that's why his researchers, brief callers before he accepts them.
    If only there was a video with James O'Brien interviewing Nigel Farage....
    There is you tube it..
  • Stig said:

    Chizz said:

    Chizz said:

    se9addick said:
    There was a discussion about this on nick ferrari show this morning, and the banking 'expert' who is on every day, totally dismissed these figures. Banks shed thousands of jobs every year and have done since the year dot. Can't recall ever reading it here before or anyone who was bothered before.

    Its cold outside..... Blame brexit.
    Do you mean Nick Ferrari that well known pinko liberal who sits just to the right of Ghengis Khan ? Shock horror that he comes up with someone on his show to cast doubt onto the figures.

    The guy is on his show every day and is fair minded. At least Ferrari is fair and reasonable not like that other berk who comes on after him, who tells the most blatant lies and only gets his researchers to get lame ducks on whom he can bully.

    Anyway thought you handshaked to ignore me. Didn't last long.
    I like James O'Brien. I guess LBC do too, because he's delivered huge growth in listening numbers at that timeslot; and they've given him a hefty new contract.

    But, I have a question for you @Chippycafc - exactly what "blatant lies" has he told on air? Obviously I wouldn't ask you to name them all (because, if you're right and, as he's on air fifteen hours a week, there could be a lot of them). So, what are the top five "blatant lies" he has told? Specifically.

    It would be good to be able to draw up a list in order to furnish a complaint to LBC, the Dept for CMS and Rajar if he does tell "blatant lies"; but if not, maybe you might want to consider whether to withdraw what would be a libellous comment?

    What do you think @Chippycafc - do you have a list of "blatant lies" that backs up your accusation?
    Hi @Chippycafc - how are you getting on with the list of "blatant lies" that top radio and tv presenter, journalist and podcaster James O'Brien has told on air?

    Please don't go to too much trouble: five would be broadly sufficient to draw up a complaint. I hope you're not spending too much time drawing up a longer list than that.

    It doesn't even have to be the biggest "blatant lies". But as you haven't gone back and corrected your post you must be completely confident you're right. So, give us five absolute whoppers he's told on air. If you can.
    1. Pensions will crash and people with pensions would be worse off, not after brexit but immediately.
    2. All brexit voters didn't know what they were voting for.
    3. The economy is going to immediatly crash.
    4. He rattled on every other day that brexiters hate immigrants. I suspect he still does.
    5. Blames everything or twists it around brexit.

    And who put you in charge...

    Tell me 5 decent things about him.
    Don't know about the others, but that one is definitely true. Nobody had a clue. Not you, not me, not anybody else. That is precisely why there was all the 'Brexit means Brexit' claptrap as May tried to bluff her way though the uncomfortable fact that nobody had clue what it meant.
    That list of yours is just a list of what you perceive not a list of his lies is it . By way of example. How is number 5 a lie ? Unless you mean he doesn’t blame or twists everything around Brexit.

    In any case you think O’Brien is a liar and that’s view to which you are entitled.

    Its a list of what he has said on his show last year.....and early this year...if you listen to Nick Ferrari about 09.50 its repeated as his introduction to his show...his words not my perception.
    What, you mean you cut and pasted it?

    I did apologise about doing it, if only others did the same.
  • Apologies as I hate posting links as its lazy, and too many people cut and paste from them.

    Sums this guy up.

    https://countrysquire.co.uk/2016/11/14/an-open-letter-to-lbcs-james-obrien/

    What was your PhD in Chippy?

    It obviously didn't involve any research or the provision of links to respected and detailed academic and industry study reports to back up and confirm your conclusions. It seems like you must have just expressed your personal opinions about the subject backed up by anecdotes from friends and family!

    Where did you get this PhD? I have a spare couple of weeks coming up. I wouldn't mind getting one.
    Thames Valley University (slough) and Brunel University London, Environment and Building Services Engineering.

    If you can get to Old Trafford on the 7th/8th November I will giving a lecture on the effects of ventilation in particular environments. Was supposed to be my boss but he's dropped me in it.

    Took me years to get it, if you can get one go and do it. You certainly have a masters in posting links.
    And did you provide links and references to expert studies in the field of Environment and Building Services Engineering in your final PhD paper?
  • Chizz said:

    Chizz said:

    Chizz said:

    se9addick said:
    There was a discussion about this on nick ferrari show this morning, and the banking 'expert' who is on every day, totally dismissed these figures. Banks shed thousands of jobs every year and have done since the year dot. Can't recall ever reading it here before or anyone who was bothered before.

    Its cold outside..... Blame brexit.
    Do you mean Nick Ferrari that well known pinko liberal who sits just to the right of Ghengis Khan ? Shock horror that he comes up with someone on his show to cast doubt onto the figures.

    The guy is on his show every day and is fair minded. At least Ferrari is fair and reasonable not like that other berk who comes on after him, who tells the most blatant lies and only gets his researchers to get lame ducks on whom he can bully.

    Anyway thought you handshaked to ignore me. Didn't last long.
    I like James O'Brien. I guess LBC do too, because he's delivered huge growth in listening numbers at that timeslot; and they've given him a hefty new contract.

    But, I have a question for you @Chippycafc - exactly what "blatant lies" has he told on air? Obviously I wouldn't ask you to name them all (because, if you're right and, as he's on air fifteen hours a week, there could be a lot of them). So, what are the top five "blatant lies" he has told? Specifically.

    It would be good to be able to draw up a list in order to furnish a complaint to LBC, the Dept for CMS and Rajar if he does tell "blatant lies"; but if not, maybe you might want to consider whether to withdraw what would be a libellous comment?

    What do you think @Chippycafc - do you have a list of "blatant lies" that backs up your accusation?
    Hi @Chippycafc - how are you getting on with the list of "blatant lies" that top radio and tv presenter, journalist and podcaster James O'Brien has told on air?

    Please don't go to too much trouble: five would be broadly sufficient to draw up a complaint. I hope you're not spending too much time drawing up a longer list than that.

    It doesn't even have to be the biggest "blatant lies". But as you haven't gone back and corrected your post you must be completely confident you're right. So, give us five absolute whoppers he's told on air. If you can.
    1. Pensions will crash and people with pensions would be worse off, not after brexit but immediately.
    2. All brexit voters didn't know what they were voting for.
    3. The economy is going to immediatly crash.
    4. He rattled on every other day that brexiters hate immigrants. I suspect he still does.
    5. Blames everything or twists it around brexit.

    And who put you in charge...

    Tell me 5 decent things about him.
    These are great, @Chippycafc they really are. I don't honestly think they're enough to build a case on. Or for you to be able to defend your claim that he tells "blatant lies" all the time. Because you haven't quoted him saying 1, 2, 3, 4 or, in fact 5. What you "suspect" to be his opinion can't be held up as proof of him either holding that opinion or sharing it (or, in fact, that the opnion is an untruth). It would be difficult to establish that he has ever claimed to blame "everything" on Brexit. And you have a split infinitive in number 3. But, otherwise, you've come up with a very robust list. (If you can use the word "robust" to mean "five-point").

    No-one put me in charge, Chippy. Or everyone did. Let me explain: I am not "in charge". Unless by "in charge" you mean "in a position to satisfy a curiosity by asking a reasonable question". In which case, I am very much "in charge", as you are, and everyone else is. In fact, it's this curiosity for facts, a hunger for knowledge and a willingness to set aside pre-conceived notions that has been fearfully lacking in the debate prior to - and subsequent to - last year's vote. If we had all tried to learn more, if we'd listened to others more than ourselves, if we had all had a curiosity and hunger to acquire useful knowledge and drawn fact-based conclusions, we wouldn't be in this silly, avoidable mess, would we? (Oh sorry, that's a question: I know you don't like those. How very "in charge" of me).

    So, you'd like me to tell you five decent things about James O'Brien? (I'll overlook the missing "please", the aggressive demand (instead of question) for knowledge. Because learning stuff is good. (See paragraph above). And, in any case, who put you "in charge"?)

    1. He is well educated. He went t a good school. And, while many people go to good schools and fail to maximise that opportunity by failing to go to University, (example: Nigel Farage), he didn't: he went on to study at one of the country's best universities.

    2. He won an award for the handling of a complaint to his radio station. Some people have chosen to mock or criticise his handling of Frank Lampard, who called in to complain directly to him. However, this exchange earned him an award at the Sony Radio Academy Awards. Many other phone-in hosts have failed to win Sony Awards: Nigel Farage, for example.

    3. He's articulate, knowledgeable and keen both to learn and to disseminate knowledge. And this marks him out as a complete contrast to other radio phone-in presenters, like Nigel Farage, who is blinkered, dogmatic and patronising.

    4. He's a very, very good interviewer, able fully to eviscerate anyone with views that need to be called out. A good interviewer will ask good questions in order to extract interesting information. A great interviewer will be fully and comprehensively prepared and able to draw on that preparation to make their interviewee reveal more than they intend. Here's an example: James O'Brien interviewing a failed Parliamentary candidate.

    5. The Mystery Hour. LBC. Thursdays. 12:00 - 13:00. The best single hour of radio each week.

    @Chippycafc I don't bear any grudges: so I genuinely wish you all the best if you have to defend yourself against a libel charge. But, to be honest, I don't think your claim that he tells "blatant lies" all the time would fool anyone.
    You like his style I don't, the other presenters have all that and more...like they listen to their point before they interrupt, if you think constant talking over and interrupting is good interviewing, your mistaken.

    Listen to Farage, allows those that oppose him on, he waits till they finish their point then he responds, he doesn't call other presenters liars and if callers do mention O'Brien by name he will rebuff them.

    Different quality and class.
  • Apologies as I hate posting links as its lazy, and too many people cut and paste from them.

    Sums this guy up.

    https://countrysquire.co.uk/2016/11/14/an-open-letter-to-lbcs-james-obrien/

    What was your PhD in Chippy?

    It obviously didn't involve any research or the provision of links to respected and detailed academic and industry study reports to back up and confirm your conclusions. It seems like you must have just expressed your personal opinions about the subject backed up by anecdotes from friends and family!

    Where did you get this PhD? I have a spare couple of weeks coming up. I wouldn't mind getting one.
    Thames Valley University (slough) and Brunel University London, Environment and Building Services Engineering.

    If you can get to Old Trafford on the 7th/8th November I will giving a lecture on the effects of ventilation in particular environments. Was supposed to be my boss but he's dropped me in it.

    Took me years to get it, if you can get one go and do it. You certainly have a masters in posting links.
    In hot air then ?

    Some of it is and how you cool it.
  • Chizz said:

    Chizz said:

    Chizz said:

    se9addick said:
    There was a discussion about this on nick ferrari show this morning, and the banking 'expert' who is on every day, totally dismissed these figures. Banks shed thousands of jobs every year and have done since the year dot. Can't recall ever reading it here before or anyone who was bothered before.

    Its cold outside..... Blame brexit.
    Do you mean Nick Ferrari that well known pinko liberal who sits just to the right of Ghengis Khan ? Shock horror that he comes up with someone on his show to cast doubt onto the figures.

    The guy is on his show every day and is fair minded. At least Ferrari is fair and reasonable not like that other berk who comes on after him, who tells the most blatant lies and only gets his researchers to get lame ducks on whom he can bully.

    Anyway thought you handshaked to ignore me. Didn't last long.
    I like James O'Brien. I guess LBC do too, because he's delivered huge growth in listening numbers at that timeslot; and they've given him a hefty new contract.

    But, I have a question for you @Chippycafc - exactly what "blatant lies" has he told on air? Obviously I wouldn't ask you to name them all (because, if you're right and, as he's on air fifteen hours a week, there could be a lot of them). So, what are the top five "blatant lies" he has told? Specifically.

    It would be good to be able to draw up a list in order to furnish a complaint to LBC, the Dept for CMS and Rajar if he does tell "blatant lies"; but if not, maybe you might want to consider whether to withdraw what would be a libellous comment?

    What do you think @Chippycafc - do you have a list of "blatant lies" that backs up your accusation?
    Hi @Chippycafc - how are you getting on with the list of "blatant lies" that top radio and tv presenter, journalist and podcaster James O'Brien has told on air?

    Please don't go to too much trouble: five would be broadly sufficient to draw up a complaint. I hope you're not spending too much time drawing up a longer list than that.

    It doesn't even have to be the biggest "blatant lies". But as you haven't gone back and corrected your post you must be completely confident you're right. So, give us five absolute whoppers he's told on air. If you can.
    1. Pensions will crash and people with pensions would be worse off, not after brexit but immediately.
    2. All brexit voters didn't know what they were voting for.
    3. The economy is going to immediatly crash.
    4. He rattled on every other day that brexiters hate immigrants. I suspect he still does.
    5. Blames everything or twists it around brexit.

    And who put you in charge...

    Tell me 5 decent things about him.
    These are great, @Chippycafc they really are. I don't honestly think they're enough to build a case on. Or for you to be able to defend your claim that he tells "blatant lies" all the time. Because you haven't quoted him saying 1, 2, 3, 4 or, in fact 5. What you "suspect" to be his opinion can't be held up as proof of him either holding that opinion or sharing it (or, in fact, that the opnion is an untruth). It would be difficult to establish that he has ever claimed to blame "everything" on Brexit. And you have a split infinitive in number 3. But, otherwise, you've come up with a very robust list. (If you can use the word "robust" to mean "five-point").

    No-one put me in charge, Chippy. Or everyone did. Let me explain: I am not "in charge". Unless by "in charge" you mean "in a position to satisfy a curiosity by asking a reasonable question". In which case, I am very much "in charge", as you are, and everyone else is. In fact, it's this curiosity for facts, a hunger for knowledge and a willingness to set aside pre-conceived notions that has been fearfully lacking in the debate prior to - and subsequent to - last year's vote. If we had all tried to learn more, if we'd listened to others more than ourselves, if we had all had a curiosity and hunger to acquire useful knowledge and drawn fact-based conclusions, we wouldn't be in this silly, avoidable mess, would we? (Oh sorry, that's a question: I know you don't like those. How very "in charge" of me).

    So, you'd like me to tell you five decent things about James O'Brien? (I'll overlook the missing "please", the aggressive demand (instead of question) for knowledge. Because learning stuff is good. (See paragraph above). And, in any case, who put you "in charge"?)

    1. He is well educated. He went t a good school. And, while many people go to good schools and fail to maximise that opportunity by failing to go to University, (example: Nigel Farage), he didn't: he went on to study at one of the country's best universities.

    2. He won an award for the handling of a complaint to his radio station. Some people have chosen to mock or criticise his handling of Frank Lampard, who called in to complain directly to him. However, this exchange earned him an award at the Sony Radio Academy Awards. Many other phone-in hosts have failed to win Sony Awards: Nigel Farage, for example.

    3. He's articulate, knowledgeable and keen both to learn and to disseminate knowledge. And this marks him out as a complete contrast to other radio phone-in presenters, like Nigel Farage, who is blinkered, dogmatic and patronising.

    4. He's a very, very good interviewer, able fully to eviscerate anyone with views that need to be called out. A good interviewer will ask good questions in order to extract interesting information. A great interviewer will be fully and comprehensively prepared and able to draw on that preparation to make their interviewee reveal more than they intend. Here's an example: James O'Brien interviewing a failed Parliamentary candidate.

    5. The Mystery Hour. LBC. Thursdays. 12:00 - 13:00. The best single hour of radio each week.

    @Chippycafc I don't bear any grudges: so I genuinely wish you all the best if you have to defend yourself against a libel charge. But, to be honest, I don't think your claim that he tells "blatant lies" all the time would fool anyone.
    You like his style I don't, the other presenters have all that and more...like they listen to their point before they interrupt, if you think constant talking over and interrupting is good interviewing, your mistaken.

    Listen to Farage, allows those that oppose him on, he waits till they finish their point then he responds, he doesn't call other presenters liars and if callers do mention O'Brien by name he will rebuff them.

    Different quality and class.
    At last. Something on which we agree.

    Although to suggest Farage doesn't interrupt callers is funny. Very, very funny. Well done.
  • My pleasure
  • Apologies as I hate posting links as its lazy, and too many people cut and paste from them.

    Sums this guy up.

    https://countrysquire.co.uk/2016/11/14/an-open-letter-to-lbcs-james-obrien/

    What was your PhD in Chippy?

    It obviously didn't involve any research or the provision of links to respected and detailed academic and industry study reports to back up and confirm your conclusions. It seems like you must have just expressed your personal opinions about the subject backed up by anecdotes from friends and family!

    Where did you get this PhD? I have a spare couple of weeks coming up. I wouldn't mind getting one.
    Thames Valley University (slough) and Brunel University London, Environment and Building Services Engineering.

    If you can get to Old Trafford on the 7th/8th November I will giving a lecture on the effects of ventilation in particular environments. Was supposed to be my boss but he's dropped me in it.

    Took me years to get it, if you can get one go and do it. You certainly have a masters in posting links.
    And did you provide links and references to expert studies in the field of Environment and Building Services Engineering in your final PhD paper?
    No...google was not around when I did....had to do a proper one with proper study. It was work based project of course something that I was actually working on and designed.
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    Apologies as I hate posting links as its lazy, and too many people cut and paste from them.

    Sums this guy up.

    https://countrysquire.co.uk/2016/11/14/an-open-letter-to-lbcs-james-obrien/

    What was your PhD in Chippy?

    It obviously didn't involve any research or the provision of links to respected and detailed academic and industry study reports to back up and confirm your conclusions. It seems like you must have just expressed your personal opinions about the subject backed up by anecdotes from friends and family!

    Where did you get this PhD? I have a spare couple of weeks coming up. I wouldn't mind getting one.
    Thames Valley University (slough) and Brunel University London, Environment and Building Services Engineering.

    If you can get to Old Trafford on the 7th/8th November I will giving a lecture on the effects of ventilation in particular environments. Was supposed to be my boss but he's dropped me in it.

    Took me years to get it, if you can get one go and do it. You certainly have a masters in posting links.
    And did you provide links and references to expert studies in the field of Environment and Building Services Engineering in your final PhD paper?
    No...google was not around when I did....had to do a proper one with proper study. It was work based project of course something that I was actually working on and designed.
    But your tutors advised you what books and reports to reference. Yet whenever someone posts a link to an article or industry report you disparage them for being lazy.

    In fact, it is the opposite of being lazy. It is making the effort to acquire information in order to reach an informed opinion.
  • ..........meanwhile, back on topic:

    er.....anyone ?
  • Bit barbed with the 'grown ups' reference @PragueAddick

    There is also Alex salmond and maajid nawaz so I would say something for everyone even if 'facts' are a bit short on the ground.

    I recall job saying that he found the BBC slightly frustrating always having to provide two opposing viewpoints for reasons of balance when clearly the argument was in his opinion more one sided.

    I make no apologies for that barbed comment either. It depresses me that virtually every day someone posts some comment that has appeared on LBC, but I am alone in regularly referring to information I have learnt from Radio 4. You yourself made a barbed comment about the quality of debate on this thread, as you see it. Perhaps the two things are connected. I know it reflects the age we live in, but it doesn't alter the truth. To join in an informed debate, one has to be informed.
    I do think the quality of debate on here has deteriorated. This thread like the previous one can't have long to go.

    Brexiteers like me (the 52/48 marginal split type) rather than the rabid kipper type have been called moronic stupid and now we don't care.

    I don't think I'm moronic stupid or don't care and wouldn't say the same of either remainers or people who chose not to vote in the referendum.

    What is evidently clear is the country is polically very divided and in my opinion has been so for some time. Healthy debate would be better.

    You just summed up perfectly why I don't participate anymore.
    Chippy and dipps and a few others have my utmost respect for continuing to post.
    Not for me.
  • Bit barbed with the 'grown ups' reference @PragueAddick

    There is also Alex salmond and maajid nawaz so I would say something for everyone even if 'facts' are a bit short on the ground.

    I recall job saying that he found the BBC slightly frustrating always having to provide two opposing viewpoints for reasons of balance when clearly the argument was in his opinion more one sided.

    I make no apologies for that barbed comment either. It depresses me that virtually every day someone posts some comment that has appeared on LBC, but I am alone in regularly referring to information I have learnt from Radio 4. You yourself made a barbed comment about the quality of debate on this thread, as you see it. Perhaps the two things are connected. I know it reflects the age we live in, but it doesn't alter the truth. To join in an informed debate, one has to be informed.
    I do think the quality of debate on here has deteriorated. This thread like the previous one can't have long to go.

    Brexiteers like me (the 52/48 marginal split type) rather than the rabid kipper type have been called moronic stupid and now we don't care.

    I don't think I'm moronic stupid or don't care and wouldn't say the same of either remainers or people who chose not to vote in the referendum.

    What is evidently clear is the country is polically very divided and in my opinion has been so for some time. Healthy debate would be better.

    What is it that you care about?
  • Bit barbed with the 'grown ups' reference @PragueAddick

    There is also Alex salmond and maajid nawaz so I would say something for everyone even if 'facts' are a bit short on the ground.

    I recall job saying that he found the BBC slightly frustrating always having to provide two opposing viewpoints for reasons of balance when clearly the argument was in his opinion more one sided.

    I make no apologies for that barbed comment either. It depresses me that virtually every day someone posts some comment that has appeared on LBC, but I am alone in regularly referring to information I have learnt from Radio 4. You yourself made a barbed comment about the quality of debate on this thread, as you see it. Perhaps the two things are connected. I know it reflects the age we live in, but it doesn't alter the truth. To join in an informed debate, one has to be informed.
    I do think the quality of debate on here has deteriorated. This thread like the previous one can't have long to go.

    Brexiteers like me (the 52/48 marginal split type) rather than the rabid kipper type have been called moronic stupid and now we don't care.

    I don't think I'm moronic stupid or don't care and wouldn't say the same of either remainers or people who chose not to vote in the referendum.

    What is evidently clear is the country is polically very divided and in my opinion has been so for some time. Healthy debate would be better.

    You just summed up perfectly why I don't participate anymore.
    Chippy and dipps and a few others have my utmost respect for continuing to post.
    Not for me.
    Retreat in the face of overwhelming odds is no disgrace.

    The thing is shooters in the real world Brexit got 52 % of the vote.
    On Charlton life it would get about 10%.
    Arguing on here is like pissing in the wind and I haven't got the energy for it
  • Bit barbed with the 'grown ups' reference @PragueAddick

    There is also Alex salmond and maajid nawaz so I would say something for everyone even if 'facts' are a bit short on the ground.

    I recall job saying that he found the BBC slightly frustrating always having to provide two opposing viewpoints for reasons of balance when clearly the argument was in his opinion more one sided.

    I make no apologies for that barbed comment either. It depresses me that virtually every day someone posts some comment that has appeared on LBC, but I am alone in regularly referring to information I have learnt from Radio 4. You yourself made a barbed comment about the quality of debate on this thread, as you see it. Perhaps the two things are connected. I know it reflects the age we live in, but it doesn't alter the truth. To join in an informed debate, one has to be informed.
    I do think the quality of debate on here has deteriorated. This thread like the previous one can't have long to go.

    Brexiteers like me (the 52/48 marginal split type) rather than the rabid kipper type have been called moronic stupid and now we don't care.

    I don't think I'm moronic stupid or don't care and wouldn't say the same of either remainers or people who chose not to vote in the referendum.

    What is evidently clear is the country is polically very divided and in my opinion has been so for some time. Healthy debate would be better.

    You just summed up perfectly why I don't participate anymore.
    Chippy and dipps and a few others have my utmost respect for continuing to post.
    Not for me.
    Retreat in the face of overwhelming odds is no disgrace.

    The thing is shooters in the real world Brexit got 52 % of the vote.
    On Charlton life it would get about 10%.
    Arguing on here is like pissing in the wind and I haven't got the energy for it
    Actually there was a poll just before the referendum and while Remain was in the majority it was, if I recall 54:46.



  • seth plum said:

    Bit barbed with the 'grown ups' reference @PragueAddick

    There is also Alex salmond and maajid nawaz so I would say something for everyone even if 'facts' are a bit short on the ground.

    I recall job saying that he found the BBC slightly frustrating always having to provide two opposing viewpoints for reasons of balance when clearly the argument was in his opinion more one sided.

    I make no apologies for that barbed comment either. It depresses me that virtually every day someone posts some comment that has appeared on LBC, but I am alone in regularly referring to information I have learnt from Radio 4. You yourself made a barbed comment about the quality of debate on this thread, as you see it. Perhaps the two things are connected. I know it reflects the age we live in, but it doesn't alter the truth. To join in an informed debate, one has to be informed.
    I do think the quality of debate on here has deteriorated. This thread like the previous one can't have long to go.

    Brexiteers like me (the 52/48 marginal split type) rather than the rabid kipper type have been called moronic stupid and now we don't care.

    I don't think I'm moronic stupid or don't care and wouldn't say the same of either remainers or people who chose not to vote in the referendum.

    What is evidently clear is the country is polically very divided and in my opinion has been so for some time. Healthy debate would be better.

    What is it that you care about?
    Probably the same things as you. But I don't much care for Ferrero rocher chocolates and yellow wine gums.

  • seth plum said:

    Bit barbed with the 'grown ups' reference @PragueAddick

    There is also Alex salmond and maajid nawaz so I would say something for everyone even if 'facts' are a bit short on the ground.

    I recall job saying that he found the BBC slightly frustrating always having to provide two opposing viewpoints for reasons of balance when clearly the argument was in his opinion more one sided.

    I make no apologies for that barbed comment either. It depresses me that virtually every day someone posts some comment that has appeared on LBC, but I am alone in regularly referring to information I have learnt from Radio 4. You yourself made a barbed comment about the quality of debate on this thread, as you see it. Perhaps the two things are connected. I know it reflects the age we live in, but it doesn't alter the truth. To join in an informed debate, one has to be informed.
    I do think the quality of debate on here has deteriorated. This thread like the previous one can't have long to go.

    Brexiteers like me (the 52/48 marginal split type) rather than the rabid kipper type have been called moronic stupid and now we don't care.

    I don't think I'm moronic stupid or don't care and wouldn't say the same of either remainers or people who chose not to vote in the referendum.

    What is evidently clear is the country is polically very divided and in my opinion has been so for some time. Healthy debate would be better.

    What is it that you care about?
    Probably the same things as you. But I don't much care for Ferrero rocher chocolates and yellow wine gums.

    Do you care about the land border in Ireland?
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