Another day gone another weekend gone another week gone
And still the aussies have not shown the money
Hmmmm
Mate.. you don’t believe they have the money and that’s fine.
Although I’m not sure how you think a purchase on this scale happens? ‘Shown the money’ to who? Us?
Nobody is going to turn up with a bag of gold sovereigns, climb the statue of Sam Bartram and wave an Australian flag
I think the fellas scepticism is with the dragging on.
I get his views.
I would suggest the only people that actually know definitively whether the Aussies have the requisite funds are Muir and Murphy themselves, possibly their lawyers, and maybe (although not definitely) Duchatelet.
The likelihood of any of these three sources divulging the information to some bloke on Charlton Life are slim to none.
Consider:
It is definitely in the Aussies’ interest that Duchâtelet thinks they are less wealthy than they possibly are.
It is in Duchatelet’s interest that all parties involved believe they are still in the running and nothing is complete.
It is in Duchâtelet’s nature to make out like he is the good guy in all this, and that we (the naughty, ungrateful fans) should be careful what we wish for.
I don't know him from Charlton Life. And if I'd asked my source if they had the requisite funds I'm fairly sure he would have told me. Why wouldn't he? I didn't bother to ask because I assumed they have, and still do. I think the point is that they want enough backing to give us a chance of making it to the Premier League. I don't believe NLA's contact is right when he says they can't even raise the £35m - £45m to buy the club. The fact that one or more of their backers needed to check up on a couple of issues doesn't mean that.
Maybe the two investors mentioned are two new, additional investors who add even more to the war chest.
I never said they couldn’t raise the funds
I said at this moment in time they are yet to prove they have the funds can get the funds are willing to spend the funds required
A big difference in what you believe I am saying
Your own source told you it was awaiting sign off
And now my own source who you think you knew has told ROT the same in the interview then I rest my case 8)
To be fair you said "they don't have the money"
You've clarified that now.
I think they have the money and have put it down on the table.
Or he has had to go home to gee up those that are involved before they put their money down
According to Colin Philip Aiken will be the new Chairman of Charlton. He was at the Valley yesterday.
Aiken was named as the chairman (of AFC) in the original Mail Online story in April 2017. The Mail story has proven pretty accurate, although they never identified Muir as involved. Can’t think who did. The only reason to think the Aiken chairman stuff may be untrue is that 1) it was suggested to me Muir would be chairman a few weeks back and 2) Aiken recently denied any continuing involvement - as @Curb_It has reported. I still think one of the guys in the directors’ box looks like a relative of Aiken.
You would struggle to find space on the peninsular now. Time has moved on and the Chinese developers are building housing and retail everywhere. Much more profitable than a stadium.
The Valley is landlocked by narrow roads and the railway. Any alternative use would be limited by this.
One further point this is what Balfour Beatty do
• Construction services: Design, construction management, refurbishment and fit out, mechanical and electrical services, civil engineering, ground engineering and rail engineering.
• Support services: Installation, upgrade and maintenance of water, gas and electricity networks; rail renewals; street and public space management, operation and maintenance.
• Infrastructure investments: A portfolio of long term (Public Private Partnership ('PPP') concessions in the United Kingdom, primarily in the education, health and roads/street lighting sectors.
You would struggle to find space on the peninsular now. Time has moved on and the Chinese developers are building housing and retail everywhere. Much more profitable than a stadium.
The Valley is landlocked by narrow roads and the railway. Any alternative use would be limited by this.
One further point this is what Balfour Beatty do
• Construction services: Design, construction management, refurbishment and fit out, mechanical and electrical services, civil engineering, ground engineering and rail engineering.
• Support services: Installation, upgrade and maintenance of water, gas and electricity networks; rail renewals; street and public space management, operation and maintenance.
• Infrastructure investments: A portfolio of long term (Public Private Partnership ('PPP') concessions in the United Kingdom, primarily in the education, health and roads/street lighting sectors.
Not really in stadium construction.
They would certainly know how to fill a pothole though...
Another day gone another weekend gone another week gone
And still the aussies have not shown the money
Hmmmm
Mate.. you don’t believe they have the money and that’s fine.
Although I’m not sure how you think a purchase on this scale happens? ‘Shown the money’ to who? Us?
Nobody is going to turn up with a bag of gold sovereigns, climb the statue of Sam Bartram and wave an Australian flag
I think the fellas scepticism is with the dragging on.
I get his views.
I would suggest the only people that actually know definitively whether the Aussies have the requisite funds are Muir and Murphy themselves, possibly their lawyers, and maybe (although not definitely) Duchatelet.
The likelihood of any of these three sources divulging the information to some bloke on Charlton Life are slim to none.
Consider:
It is definitely in the Aussies’ interest that Duchâtelet thinks they are less wealthy than they possibly are.
It is in Duchatelet’s interest that all parties involved believe they are still in the running and nothing is complete.
It is in Duchâtelet’s nature to make out like he is the good guy in all this, and that we (the naughty, ungrateful fans) should be careful what we wish for.
I don't know him from Charlton Life. And if I'd asked my source if they had the requisite funds I'm fairly sure he would have told me. Why wouldn't he? I didn't bother to ask because I assumed they have, and still do. I think the point is that they want enough backing to give us a chance of making it to the Premier League. I don't believe NLA's contact is right when he says they can't even raise the £35m - £45m to buy the club. The fact that one or more of their backers needed to check up on a couple of issues doesn't mean that.
Maybe the two investors mentioned are two new, additional investors who add even more to the war chest.
I never said they couldn’t raise the funds
I said at this moment in time they are yet to prove they have the funds can get the funds are willing to spend the funds required
A big difference in what you believe I am saying
Your own source told you it was awaiting sign off
And now my own source who you think you knew has told ROT the same in the interview then I rest my case 8)
To be fair you said "they don't have the money"
You've clarified that now.
I think they have the money and have put it down on the table.
Or he has had to go home to gee up those that are involved before they put their money down
My guess is that Muir has had the money all along. These other two have come late to the party and/or were waiting until RD finally agreed to sell after much messing about from the Belgian side before committing.
Now the EFL have to sign off the two additional investors, so another delay. Muir wanted to be in the UK for the big announcement (If was spending £35m on a football club I'd want to be at the press conference too) and maybe expected that to be in the last few weeks (as JS has said) but now has other family or business stuff at home to deal with.
It's going to happen.
The club will be 113 years old on 9 June. Two weeks, or however long it is, more won't kill it nor will it even ruin next season IMHO, if they appoint a manager quickly. Remember the domestic season hasn't even finished yet.
According to Colin Philip Aiken will be the new Chairman of Charlton. He was at the Valley yesterday.
Aiken was named as the chairman (of AFC) in the original Mail Online story in April 2017. The Mail story has proven pretty accurate, although they never identified Muir as involved. Can’t think who did. The only reason to think the Aiken chairman stuff may be untrue is that 1) it was suggested to me Muir would be chairman a few weeks back and 2) Aiken recently denied any continuing involvement - as @Curb_It has reported. I still think one of the guys in the directors’ box looks like a relative of Aiken.
You should, it was on the cover on Voice of the Valley : - )
According to Colin Philip Aiken will be the new Chairman of Charlton. He was at the Valley yesterday.
Aiken was named as the chairman (of AFC) in the original Mail Online story in April 2017. The Mail story has proven pretty accurate, although they never identified Muir as involved. Can’t think who did. The only reason to think the Aiken chairman stuff may be untrue is that 1) it was suggested to me Muir would be chairman a few weeks back and 2) Aiken recently denied any continuing involvement - as @Curb_It has reported. I still think one of the guys in the directors’ box looks like a relative of Aiken.
You should, it was on the cover on Voice of the Valley : - )
That can’t be right. I don’t have any sources, apparently.
Another day gone another weekend gone another week gone
And still the aussies have not shown the money
Hmmmm
Mate.. you don’t believe they have the money and that’s fine.
Although I’m not sure how you think a purchase on this scale happens? ‘Shown the money’ to who? Us?
Nobody is going to turn up with a bag of gold sovereigns, climb the statue of Sam Bartram and wave an Australian flag
I think the fellas scepticism is with the dragging on.
I get his views.
I would suggest the only people that actually know definitively whether the Aussies have the requisite funds are Muir and Murphy themselves, possibly their lawyers, and maybe (although not definitely) Duchatelet.
The likelihood of any of these three sources divulging the information to some bloke on Charlton Life are slim to none.
Consider:
It is definitely in the Aussies’ interest that Duchâtelet thinks they are less wealthy than they possibly are.
It is in Duchatelet’s interest that all parties involved believe they are still in the running and nothing is complete.
It is in Duchâtelet’s nature to make out like he is the good guy in all this, and that we (the naughty, ungrateful fans) should be careful what we wish for.
I don't know him from Charlton Life. And if I'd asked my source if they had the requisite funds I'm fairly sure he would have told me. Why wouldn't he? I didn't bother to ask because I assumed they have, and still do. I think the point is that they want enough backing to give us a chance of making it to the Premier League. I don't believe NLA's contact is right when he says they can't even raise the £35m - £45m to buy the club. The fact that one or more of their backers needed to check up on a couple of issues doesn't mean that.
Maybe the two investors mentioned are two new, additional investors who add even more to the war chest.
I never said they couldn’t raise the funds
I said at this moment in time they are yet to prove they have the funds can get the funds are willing to spend the funds required
A big difference in what you believe I am saying
Your own source told you it was awaiting sign off
And now my own source who you think you knew has told ROT the same in the interview then I rest my case 8)
To be fair you said "they don't have the money"
You've clarified that now.
I think they have the money and have put it down on the table.
Or he has had to go home to gee up those that are involved before they put their money down
My guess is that Muir has had the money all along. These other two have come late to the party and/or were waiting until RD finally agreed to sell after much messing about from the Belgian side before committing.
Now the EFL have to sign off the two additional investors, so another delay. Muir wanted to be in the UK for the big announcement (If was spending £35m on a football club I'd want to be at the press conference too) and maybe expected that to be in the last few weeks (as JS has said) but now has other family or business stuff at home to deal with.
It's going to happen.
The club will be 113 years old on 9 June. Two weeks, or however long it is, more won't kill it nor will it even ruin next season IMHO, if they appoint a manager quickly. Remember the domestic season hasn't even finished yet.
I suggest, from no personal knowledge, that the incoming owners will have identified their SMT and football manahement team and will be already planning for next season - wouldn’t they?
Well they have indicated that they would follow a recruitment process to appoint the team manager and would hold interviews. I doubt that they could have embarked on that process proper other than by putting out feelers. As for the executive roles then I’m sure that the names are known.
I suggest, from no personal knowledge, that the incoming owners will have identified their SMT and football manahement team and will be already planning for next season - wouldn’t they?
According to Colin Philip Aiken will be the new Chairman of Charlton. He was at the Valley yesterday.
Aiken was named as the chairman (of AFC) in the original Mail Online story in April 2017. The Mail story has proven pretty accurate, although they never identified Muir as involved. Can’t think who did. The only reason to think the Aiken chairman stuff may be untrue is that 1) it was suggested to me Muir would be chairman a few weeks back and 2) Aiken recently denied any continuing involvement - as @Curb_It has reported. I still think one of the guys in the directors’ box looks like a relative of Aiken.
You should, it was on the cover on Voice of the Valley : - )
That can’t be right. I don’t have any sources, apparently.
You would struggle to find space on the peninsular now. Time has moved on and the Chinese developers are building housing and retail everywhere. Much more profitable than a stadium.
The Valley is landlocked by narrow roads and the railway. Any alternative use would be limited by this.
One further point this is what Balfour Beatty do
• Construction services: Design, construction management, refurbishment and fit out, mechanical and electrical services, civil engineering, ground engineering and rail engineering.
• Support services: Installation, upgrade and maintenance of water, gas and electricity networks; rail renewals; street and public space management, operation and maintenance.
• Infrastructure investments: A portfolio of long term (Public Private Partnership ('PPP') concessions in the United Kingdom, primarily in the education, health and roads/street lighting sectors.
Not really in stadium construction.
You may well be right, but they did build the London Aquatic centre, I remember it well as one of my sons worked on it, as a Balfour employee. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Aquatics_Centre The company did have quite a restructure programme a couple of years ago, Luckily my son escaped the cull. This was largely due to loosing out on contracts, or so the staff were told at the time? .....although the demise of 'Carillion' may well have shown that to be a wise business plan. I asked my son who is also a CAFC fan, and although he is hardly rubbing shoulders with the higher management, he is thought to be a capable chairman, at least at the shop floor level so to speak......
One of the reason the Aussies went for Charlton was, according to my contact, the fact that we have a great stadium, good enough for the premier league. Whether they’re ambitious enough to think we might one day need to expand it or move I don’t know.
If Philip Aiken is to be our new chairman, why does his other job have anything to do with us. Because he is in construction it doesn't mean we are moving or developing the ground. How many chairmen of football clubs, with other jobs, bring their work together with football. This may be the thought of someone like Sunleys, who only bought us to develop The Valley. I believe that Aiken being Australian could be more important than he is in construction, but as I am not ITK, who agrees with my thoughts anyway, probably rubbish
You would struggle to find space on the peninsular now. Time has moved on and the Chinese developers are building housing and retail everywhere. Much more profitable than a stadium.
The Valley is landlocked by narrow roads and the railway. Any alternative use would be limited by this.
One further point this is what Balfour Beatty do
• Construction services: Design, construction management, refurbishment and fit out, mechanical and electrical services, civil engineering, ground engineering and rail engineering.
• Support services: Installation, upgrade and maintenance of water, gas and electricity networks; rail renewals; street and public space management, operation and maintenance.
• Infrastructure investments: A portfolio of long term (Public Private Partnership ('PPP') concessions in the United Kingdom, primarily in the education, health and roads/street lighting sectors.
Not really in stadium construction.
You may well be right, but they did build the London Aquatic centre, I remember it well as one of my sons worked on it, as a Balfour employee. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Aquatics_Centre The company did have quite a restructure programme a couple of years ago, Luckily my son escaped the cull. This was largely due to loosing out on contracts, or so the staff were told at the time? .....although the demise of 'Carillion' may well have shown that to be a wise business plan. I asked my son who is also a CAFC fan, and although he is hardly rubbing shoulders with the higher management, he is thought to be a capable chairman, at least at the shop floor level so to speak......
If Philip Aiken is to be our new chairman, why does his other job have anything to do with us. Because he is in construction it doesn't mean we are moving or developing the ground. How many chairmen of football clubs, with other jobs, bring their work together with football. This may be the thought of someone like Sunleys, who only bought us to develop The Valley. I believe that Aiken being Australian could be more important than he is in construction, but as I am not ITK, who agrees with my thoughts anyway, probably rubbish
So Muir is on his way back to Oz, not because, as I had hoped, he had announced the sale of the club, but because he had to go back at this time.
In my last blog post on the subject I said:
‘It could alternatively mean that he intends to come back in two weeks in time, for the completion of the sale...’
I’m happy to stick with that @AFKABartram , so if I’m right can I I have my promote back please. Ta. [edit: winky emoji thing]
Things will hopefully progress in his absence, but with luck this will get concluded on his return, if not before, as I said. I imagine he may want to make the announcement himself, rather than have it leak out on CL (god knows why!). They were convinced it would happen last week, and I thought it might be a tad optimistic, but not by much.
At my ‘beer’ meeting my chap said two investors had to sign off on something, but that they had the backing, and the money wasn’t the issue. I believed him when he said that, so didn't ask further questions about it. I’m sticking with that.
The above are opinions of course, but most are based on impressions garnered at the beer meeting.
So let’s chill out and let events unfold now. I’m about to tip the leftover raspberry fool down the sink, and if anyone wants my recipe for the very nice beef and ale pie I made on Thursday, please let me know. Planning to make fish pie on Tuesday!
And I still have zero takers for the BBC Addicks, although I’m thinking of expanding it to BBBC Addicks with the inclusion of Brixton.
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The Valley is landlocked by narrow roads and the railway. Any alternative use would be limited by this.
One further point this is what Balfour Beatty do
• Construction services: Design, construction management, refurbishment and fit out, mechanical and electrical services, civil engineering, ground engineering and rail engineering.
• Support services: Installation, upgrade and maintenance of water, gas and electricity networks; rail renewals; street and public space management, operation and maintenance.
• Infrastructure investments: A portfolio of long term (Public Private Partnership ('PPP') concessions in the United Kingdom, primarily in the education, health and roads/street lighting sectors.
Not really in stadium construction.
Now the EFL have to sign off the two additional investors, so another delay. Muir wanted to be in the UK for the big announcement (If was spending £35m on a football club I'd want to be at the press conference too) and maybe expected that to be in the last few weeks (as JS has said) but now has other family or business stuff at home to deal with.
It's going to happen.
The club will be 113 years old on 9 June. Two weeks, or however long it is, more won't kill it nor will it even ruin next season IMHO, if they appoint a manager quickly. Remember the domestic season hasn't even finished yet.
The eccentric Belgian owner who is trying to play one interested party against another.
The femme fatale who after leaving poison around the building escaped to northern parts.
The ex owner who was admired but is now persona non grata with the masses after his ego took over.
The spivs who went from heroes to zeros when their backer pulled the plug and started the decline.
The ITK folk who pass on their information to the CL detectives who desperately try to extrapolate the data to explain the timeline of events.
Smoke and mirrors, lies and spies, fish and 14 chips, hope and despair.
Done deal, impasse.
I'm Charlton till I die.
Whodunit.
;0)
PS Tom from Eltham it's a joke I don't know where he buys his burger flippers
But only when I was in my early teens.
The company did have quite a restructure programme a couple of years ago, Luckily my son escaped the cull. This was largely due to loosing out on contracts, or so the staff were told at the time? .....although the demise of 'Carillion' may well have shown that to be a wise business plan. I asked my son who is also a CAFC fan, and although he is hardly rubbing shoulders with the higher management, he is thought to be a capable chairman, at least at the shop floor level so to speak......
I absolutely agree.
It’s probably rubbish
;0)
In my last blog post on the subject I said:
‘It could alternatively mean that he intends to come back in two weeks in time, for the completion of the sale...’
I’m happy to stick with that @AFKABartram , so if I’m right can I I have my promote back please. Ta. [edit: winky emoji thing]
Things will hopefully progress in his absence, but with luck this will get concluded on his return, if not before, as I said. I imagine he may want to make the announcement himself, rather than have it leak out on CL (god knows why!).
They were convinced it would happen last week, and I thought it might be a tad optimistic, but not by much.
At my ‘beer’ meeting my chap said two investors had to sign off on something, but that they had the backing, and the money wasn’t the issue.
I believed him when he said that, so didn't ask further questions about it. I’m sticking with that.
The above are opinions of course, but most are based on impressions garnered at the beer meeting.
So let’s chill out and let events unfold now. I’m about to tip the leftover raspberry fool down the sink, and if anyone wants my recipe for the very nice beef and ale pie I made on Thursday, please let me know.
Planning to make fish pie on Tuesday!
And I still have zero takers for the BBC Addicks, although I’m thinking of expanding it to BBBC Addicks with the inclusion of Brixton.