They aren't the original Aussies though from what I can gather, as you may know, a friend told me last week he spoke to one of the guys in the original bid and he walked away after due diligence. This must be a second Aussie group which includes Muir.
if roly is looking for add ons ..id tell him to go right off ..honestly if the club progressed in the near future post sale it wouldnt be because of anything he or his regime has done ..anyone can see its in a bigger mess than when he bought us ....only a fool (admittedly some are out there) would pay for that ..football really is crazy
No idea if this is accurate or true but I’m posting what I’ve heard. In fact I hope it’s not.
Saudi’s have left negotiations and Australians have failed to agree a price or terms on how that might be paid.
Duchatelet wants £40 million plus add ons for on the pitch success’s and in future player sales and sell ons for five years after sale. This could conceivably take the figure over £50 - 55 million.
That I’m told is the impasse which to me at least sounds plausible and completely ridiculous. If there is truth in this and I hope some of the truly in the know blow this out of the water then we are fucked.
If @Airman Brown & @Redhenry 's posts are anything to go by I'd say your info is wide of the mark. Is your "source" ITK or just some sap who likes to yank your chain ???
However, if by the Blackburn game we know that this is true & we are going to be stuck with RD next season I'd support a BIG protest. Not just throwing pigs or taxis but a pitch invasion / sit down so that the game is called off (and not re-started 2 hours later ala Orient). If under FFP rules you've got to have a Finance Officer then the EFL will have to act. I'm all for making them squirm & getting media coverage. There is no way an owner who has shown no interest in the club can "ask" for any ongoing payments, especially if they relate to onfield success after he has left. Its a bit like selling your house (yes, that analogy again) & asking the new owners to give you 10% of the revaluation price 5 years down the line once they have built an extension & completely renovated the property.
The frustrating thing (well one of the frustrating things) is how secretive the process has been. Has there been a football takeover in which so little has actually been revealed, either by the selling party or even the potential buyers.
Nothing we know (about the buyers or price etc) is confirmed by the actual parties, but rather from "informed sources", who inevitable will contradict each other at times as nobody will have all the facts. I'm really confused why none of the buying parties have revealed their interest publicly, which is what happens with nearly all such takeovers.
Most likely explanation is that this is a condition of RD talking to them in the first place.
He appears to be obsessed with secrecy. The following story must go down as one of the silliest ever published by the club. Not a single trading figure included - even though the whole point of publishing accounts is that these have to be disclosed. It really is news for children.
When it's on record that the club is up for sale, surely he can't insist that all buyers have to maintain a complete media blackout? After all it wasn't a secret that Alex McGleish was at a few games on behalf of a potential buyer (indeed the only one where there has been some sort of public presence)
The optimists among us might see this as the end game.
The pessimists as the end of days.
Both may be right.
The Aussies have been around, according to rumours, from before October 2017. Earlier if you believe they are the same group or an off-shoot of, as the AFC group that kicked off this thread over a year ago.
So the Aussies have been around for a long time and they haven't walked away. According to SHG they just won't pay Duchatelet's silly terms.
If the Saudis have walked (and the British group don't actually exist - "fake news" alert) the the President can hang around for another summer or longer in the vain hope of finding a mug punter or he can do the deal the Aussies thought they had done back in February.
Aussies on or around 8 May, which we all know is Victory in Europe Day, is my guess.
The optimists among us might see this as the end game.
The pessimists as the end of days.
Both may be right.
The Aussies have been around, according to rumours, from before October 2017. Earlier if you believe they are the same group or an off-shoot of, as the AFC group that kicked off this thread over a year ago.
So the Aussies have been around for a long time and they haven't walked away. According to SHG they just won't pay Duchatelet's silly terms.
If the Saudis have walked (and the British group don't actually exist - "fake news" alert) the the President can hang around for another summer or longer in the vain hope of finding a mug punter or he can do the deal the Aussies thought they had done back in February.
Aussies on or around 8 May, which we all know is Victory in Europe Day, is my guess.
LLL&BH
Along with promotion at Rochdale.
I was derided by some for being so negative when saying that as surely we'd be promoted long before then, some said.
Even my down graded play-offs at Rochdale looks doubtful now.
Without igniting inter-site warfare what is the stance on SE7 Valiantly and elsewhere about Duchatelet now?
Facebook seems to have a sizable anti CARD minority but the same people are anti- Duchatelet.
I've been much less active on SE7 Valiants due to getting a promotion and having to actually do some work of late. The view does seem to have turned a little of late. Most people just want rid of him - some will still see no wrong in him (tried debating about the accounts but they did the old fingers in ears and sing lalalalala trick) but say if he's going it should be soon.
They still criticise CARD/Rick/protesters/any takeover rumour but that's just the standard approach of some strange bitter and twisted people.
Even the stubborn old Belgian must understand by now that no-one will pay anything like what he wants to reimburse him for the self-generated losses which, of course, merrily continue at £1 million a month. His advisers must surely have made it very clear what the going rate is for football clubs, and there is certainly no shortage of clubs for sale.
Of course he wants to control the negotiations. That's in his nature. But - this is most definitely a buyers' market. If two parties who've shown prolonged interest have now both reached the close of play then indeed the writing is on the wall. In any case RD knows he's going to face public humiliation when he is eventually forced to sell at far below his total costs, but he simply has no choice.
His refusal so far to accept the obvious has created such a climate of uncertainty that the team's performances have become highly erratic as the end of the season approaches. The players' agents are no fools. They and their clients do not want to be tied to a sinking ship. How many careers - players and coaches - have already been blighted by association with this regime?
All due diligence having long since been completed, it is just a matter of price, terms and conditions, as in fact it has always been. Sooner rather than later RD will make a snap decision to get a deal, any deal, done and out of the blue there will come an announcement ....
If the unthinkable happens and RD remains in charge indefinitely then at least the value of the club will no longer be an issue. It will be £1.
I honestly hadn't considered that the downturn in the last 3 performances could be attributed to the players' concerns about their immediate futures.
In my ignorance, I had assumed that they would be able to switch off once they entered the field of play but of course, most have families & all have relatively few years in the game, and that's if they stay injury free on the whole.
You make some very valid points , dear friend , that make me wonder whether a significant protest at the Blackburn match would have their approval if the old Rat is still hanging around.
Even the stubborn old Belgian must understand by now that no-one will pay anything like what he wants to reimburse him for the self-generated losses which, of course, merrily continue at £1 million a month. His advisers must surely have made it very clear what the going rate is for football clubs, and there is certainly no shortage of clubs for sale.
Of course he wants to control the negotiations. That's in his nature. But - this is most definitely a buyers' market. If two parties who've shown prolonged interest have now both reached the close of play then indeed the writing is on the wall. In any case RD knows he's going to face public humiliation when he is eventually forced to sell at far below his total costs, but he simply has no choice.
His refusal so far to accept the obvious has created such a climate of uncertainty that the team's performances have become highly erratic as the end of the season approaches. The players' agents are no fools. They and their clients do not want to be tied to a sinking ship. How many careers - players and coaches - have already been blighted by association with this regime?
All due diligence having long since been completed, it is just a matter of price, terms and conditions, as in fact it has always been. Sooner rather than later RD will make a snap decision to get a deal, any deal, done and out of the blue there will come an announcement ....
If the unthinkable happens and RD remains in charge indefinitely then at least the value of the club will no longer be an issue. It will be £1.
Even the stubborn old Belgian must understand by now that no-one will pay anything like what he wants to reimburse him for the self-generated losses which, of course, merrily continue at £1 million a month. His advisers must surely have made it very clear what the going rate is for football clubs, and there is certainly no shortage of clubs for sale.
Of course he wants to control the negotiations. That's in his nature. But - this is most definitely a buyers' market. If two parties who've shown prolonged interest have now both reached the close of play then indeed the writing is on the wall. In any case RD knows he's going to face public humiliation when he is eventually forced to sell at far below his total costs, but he simply has no choice.
His refusal so far to accept the obvious has created such a climate of uncertainty that the team's performances have become highly erratic as the end of the season approaches. The players' agents are no fools. They and their clients do not want to be tied to a sinking ship. How many careers - players and coaches - have already been blighted by association with this regime?
All due diligence having long since been completed, it is just a matter of price, terms and conditions, as in fact it has always been. Sooner rather than later RD will make a snap decision to get a deal, any deal, done and out of the blue there will come an announcement ....
If the unthinkable happens and RD remains in charge indefinitely then at least the value of the club will no longer be an issue. It will be £1.
With us in the Isthmian League.
Is that right PD if things are that bad why you not down the ground protesting instead of lands end on a Saturday.
No idea if this is accurate or true but I’m posting what I’ve heard. In fact I hope it’s not.
Saudi’s have left negotiations and Australians have failed to agree a price or terms on how that might be paid.
Duchatelet wants £40 million plus add ons for on the pitch success’s and in future player sales and sell ons for five years after sale. This could conceivably take the figure over £50 - 55 million.
That I’m told is the impasse which to me at least sounds plausible and completely ridiculous. If there is truth in this and I hope some of the truly in the know blow this out of the water then we are fucked.
If @Airman Brown & @Redhenry 's posts are anything to go by I'd say your info is wide of the mark. Is your "source" ITK or just some sap who likes to yank your chain ???
However, if by the Blackburn game we know that this is true & we are going to be stuck with RD next season I'd support a BIG protest. Not just throwing pigs or taxis but a pitch invasion / sit down so that the game is called off (and not re-started 2 hours later ala Orient). If under FFP rules you've got to have a Finance Officer then the EFL will have to act. I'm all for making them squirm & getting media coverage. There is no way an owner who has shown no interest in the club can "ask" for any ongoing payments, especially if they relate to onfield success after he has left. Its a bit like selling your house (yes, that analogy again) & asking the new owners to give you 10% of the revaluation price 5 years down the line once they have built an extension & completely renovated the property.
If he’s still in control come the Blackburn game and we’re out of the playoff race - the best thing would be for no one to attend. Not a single bum on a home seat!
If the unthinkable happens and RD remains in charge indefinitely then at least the value of the club will no longer be an issue. It will be £1.
Sorry GHF, but it won't. There's some valuable freehold for starters. The club would only be given away in an administration scenario. We're not going into administration, as RD would have to write off his own loans.
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Actually, not even close.
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Facebook seems to have a sizable anti CARD minority but the same people are anti- Duchatelet.
Ittv: two of the titans on there have directly opposing and contradicting information.
Basically non the wiser.
Even my down graded play-offs at Rochdale looks doubtful now.
It's that too fucking much to ask?
They still criticise CARD/Rick/protesters/any takeover rumour but that's just the standard approach of some strange bitter and twisted people.
Even the stubborn old Belgian must understand by now that no-one will pay anything like what he wants to reimburse him for the self-generated losses which, of course, merrily continue at £1 million a month. His advisers must surely have made it very clear what the going rate is for football clubs, and there is certainly no shortage of clubs for sale.
Of course he wants to control the negotiations. That's in his nature. But - this is most definitely a buyers' market. If two parties who've shown prolonged interest have now both reached the close of play then indeed the writing is on the wall. In any case RD knows he's going to face public humiliation when he is eventually forced to sell at far below his total costs, but he simply has no choice.
His refusal so far to accept the obvious has created such a climate of uncertainty that the team's performances have become highly erratic as the end of the season approaches. The players' agents are no fools. They and their clients do not want to be tied to a sinking ship. How many careers - players and coaches - have already been blighted by association with this regime?
All due diligence having long since been completed, it is just a matter of price, terms and conditions, as in fact it has always been. Sooner rather than later RD will make a snap decision to get a deal, any deal, done and out of the blue there will come an announcement ....
If the unthinkable happens and RD remains in charge indefinitely then at least the value of the club will no longer be an issue. It will be £1.
In my ignorance, I had assumed that they would be able to switch off once they entered the field of play but of course, most have families & all have relatively few years in the game, and that's if they stay injury free on the whole.
You make some very valid points , dear friend , that make me wonder whether a significant protest at the Blackburn match would have their approval if the old Rat is still hanging around.
There's some valuable freehold for starters.
The club would only be given away in an administration scenario.
We're not going into administration, as RD would have to write off his own loans.