I don’t buy all this he’s a lunatic, mental etc etc. In my interpretation he is most likely not a nice man, wholly single minded and an extremely tough / difficult negotiatior who has little interest in compromise, and most certainly no interest in what’s best for the club.
Ive no idea if it’s true, but if talk that the club and it’s assets can be acquired free of debt and with clean title as a Championship club for under £40m, then I’m coming round to thinking that that is fair value in this industry.
A Championship club sold 1 player for £15m yesterday.
The word lunatic is of course highly subjective......I myself, have no doubts that he has some unusual psychological traits as indicated by his long term partner (sorry I can’t remember her name) in a society magazine article a few years back......I agree he isn’t a fully fledged lunatic in the true sense of the word but I fancy an established psychologist or psychiatrist could find a number of very unusual traits in his character that make him something of a ‘one off’ shall we say. I think he does have some minor mental health issues (though not necessarily alarming ones to the outside world) and as he gets older they will almost certainly become more apparent......for example he may have anxiety problems, which is very common in the elderly, despite his seemingly self assured persona and social standing. His failure to attend Wembley and the reason he gave might in fact be very real to him and a true indication of those anxieties. Having said that I am no expert, so I don’t want anyone to take my opinion as being factual.....it’s just my opinion. As one gets older(as I am), some of these things become more apparent, both in oneself and your family and circle of friends, things that might not have been previously apparent in people’s characters surprisingly and unerringly come to light. He acts very strangely, because he is in fact very strange!
Calm down everyone and just think about how excited CL was this time last year.
It's new season ticket application time again. That's the reason this has come out now and how many bought them last year cos they thought Roland was going?
So it was Roland that leaked this news when he knew it was going nowhere. He's playing fans like a fiddle.
Dalman confirmed: "Right at this moment in time I'm really focused on preparing for the new season with Cardiff. I don't want to let Neil down. We have a job to do here at Cardiff and we intend to give it a right old go for promotion."
That's the sort of language you use when other stuff is going on (i.e. negotiations).
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In general, he uses a lot of qualifying language, even when talking about player recruitment: "provided [we are united]"; "I don't want to rock the boat at the moment", and such. I know he says he expects to be at Cardiff for the season, but again, that's a qualifier. And you'd have to say that when you're still Chairman of the bloody club!
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He also says some other stuff about "me and my future" which I think leaves the door to CAFC ajar.
Ultimately though, I don't think this is necessarily likely, but probably not quite as dead in the water as a lot of us seem to be making out.
Calm down everyone and just think about how excited CL was this time last year.
It's new season ticket application time again. That's the reason this has come out now and how many bought them last year cos they thought Roland was going?
So it was Roland that leaked this news when he knew it was going nowhere. He's playing fans like a fiddle.
Yes, the great RD media operation which recently put a CARD statement in full on the club website, referred to fans as "soft terrorists", demanded publicly that the EFL bought the club and routinely publishes statements that fall apart factually within hours has delivered another Machiavellian triumph via a Welsh website. In other news, the moon landings have been exposed as fake just weeks before the 50th anniversary of the first one...
From another site, apparently its not happening (Dalman that is). Well it was nice while it lasted....back to square one I guess, which will be The Aussies still hanging on in there.
Or not.
Or not being The Aussies @JamesSeed? If they've gone as well then the game is up I feel.
No they haven't gone, but they're only doing this if the terms are right, and Roland may yet not allow that to happen.
He couldn't say much else until a deal has been signed. Nothing's done until it's done and he wants to keep life easy where he currently is and wouldn't want to give any more leverage to RD.
Two or Three months ago Cafc was the escape route for Dalman, who wanted to try being the main man at the valley and escape from the tragedy of Sala.
As we all realize once Duchatelet who is omnipresent like the devil despite being seen about the same amount of times as Haley's comet comes into the equation everything goes tits up.
The hero from the Welsh hills was just another mirage.
Bo**ocks!!!!. Reading that statement was like watching Nabby's back pass slip by Phillip's. What we need now is the take aover equivalent of Ben Purrington to come along and save us.
To me it reads more like a I"can't say anything about it so I'm going to say what Cardiff wants to hear for now" statement.
Doesn't mean it's dead, just means he's a diplomatic person who realises everything he says from now on will be under intense scrutiny so until he becomes our owner (if that happens at all) he is 100% committed to the people that currently employ him
Seriously?
If that's not a statement of definite intent to remain at Cardiff I don't know what is.
It isn't going to happen. We're doomed, doomed, doomed.
To the contrary @WestCountryAddick id say if you were to take over a club you’d want it to have as few existing financial commitments as possible as it gives you a better ability to implement your budget how you would want to and not be penalised (like we have in recent years) of having the likes of Sarr, Vetokele, Texteira etc on overinflated contracts
True, but that doesn't change the fact that we should still be valued at the lower end due to many of our players being able to walk in a few weeks time, and if I were to be purchasing a club in this predicament (or any business that is losing a chunk of it's assets), it's certainly something I would use as a bargaining tool.
If he was so happy at Cardiff and could never let Neil and the club down blah blah, he would never have contacted Roland about a possible takeover in the first place. The statement said all the right things for the Cardiff fans, but it certainly wasn't a 100% confirmation that he would still be their Chairman next season.
At the moment I'd say that the takeover was still a possibility, but clearly there were major issues which might kill it off completely.
It doesn't seem unreasonable for RD to want all his money upfront. If Dalman is going to fund losses of even £6m per year on a five year plan (current budget) he needs a war chest of at least £70m (£6m x 5 +£33m +£7m), to make us anything aother than relegation fodder would need £100m and £200m to challenge for Premiership. If he hasn't accessed that money yet he should walk away or it will be Spivs Mk II.
No shortage of buyers but as ever, the stumbling block is Roland.
It's getting to the point where you start to wonder if he actually even wants to sell us.
I've said it before, Duchatelet doesn't want to sell per se, he wants his money back. Selling the club is the only way left for him to do it. It may look like he's selling but what he's actually trying to do is construct a deal that returns as much as possible of the money he's thrown down the drain and yet is still legally owed to him.
The club is "worth" no more than what he paid for it, I would say it's actually worth less today. Charlton loses £10m and year and is lumbered with £60m "Friendly" debt. You would have to be a lunatic to get involved in the first place, never mind agree to pay for Duchatelet's mistakes at the same time.
To me it reads more like a I"can't say anything about it so I'm going to say what Cardiff wants to hear for now" statement.
Doesn't mean it's dead, just means he's a diplomatic person who realises everything he says from now on will be under intense scrutiny so until he becomes our owner (if that happens at all) he is 100% committed to the people that currently employ him
Seriously?
If that's not a statement of definite intent to remain at Cardiff I don't know what is.
It isn't going to happen. We're doomed, doomed, doomed.
Seriously? How about "fans can rest assured that I will be at Cardiff this season and I have no idea where this Charlton story has come from or what it is about"?
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I think he does have some minor mental health issues (though not necessarily alarming ones to the outside world) and as he gets older they will almost certainly become more apparent......for example he may have anxiety problems, which is very common in the elderly, despite his seemingly self assured persona and social standing.
His failure to attend Wembley and the reason he gave might in fact be very real to him and a true indication of those anxieties.
Having said that I am no expert, so I don’t want anyone to take my opinion as being factual.....it’s just my opinion.
As one gets older(as I am), some of these things become more apparent, both in oneself and your family and circle of friends, things that might not have been previously apparent in people’s characters surprisingly and unerringly come to light.
He acts very strangely, because he is in fact very strange!
That's the sort of language you use when other stuff is going on (i.e. negotiations).
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In general, he uses a lot of qualifying language, even when talking about player recruitment: "provided [we are united]"; "I don't want to rock the boat at the moment", and such. I know he says he expects to be at Cardiff for the season, but again, that's a qualifier. And you'd have to say that when you're still Chairman of the bloody club!
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He also says some other stuff about "me and my future" which I think leaves the door to CAFC ajar.
Ultimately though, I don't think this is necessarily likely, but probably not quite as dead in the water as a lot of us seem to be making out.
He doesn’t really say anything about him buying us.
Or maybe Airman.
As we all realize once Duchatelet who is omnipresent like the devil despite being seen about the same amount of times as Haley's comet comes into the equation everything goes tits up.
The hero from the Welsh hills was just another mirage.
Seriously?
If that's not a statement of definite intent to remain at Cardiff I don't know what is.
It isn't going to happen. We're doomed, doomed, doomed.
"At this moment in time..." is a classic deflector. No denial - just move on to the next topic.
Cardiff can't keep him there if he want's to go but similarly they can't appear to give him carte blanche to go and do what he wants.
No change for me - this is still bubbling away...though not quick enough for my liking
At the moment I'd say that the takeover was still a possibility, but clearly there were major issues which might kill it off completely.
I would agree with that. It is a cleverly worded political statement.
"I expect to be at Cardiff next season" is another way of saying "I'll be off if I can get the deal done but expect it to fail".
I've said it before, Duchatelet doesn't want to sell per se, he wants his money back. Selling the club is the only way left for him to do it. It may look like he's selling but what he's actually trying to do is construct a deal that returns as much as possible of the money he's thrown down the drain and yet is still legally owed to him.
The club is "worth" no more than what he paid for it, I would say it's actually worth less today. Charlton loses £10m and year and is lumbered with £60m "Friendly" debt. You would have to be a lunatic to get involved in the first place, never mind agree to pay for Duchatelet's mistakes at the same time.