If the Australians take over I will be first in line for buying season tickets.
Do we really want the Aussies after 2 years Frying pan into the fire
Yes. Because 1) it means Roland has gone 2) is there any evidence that they are the cause of the hold up
Agree with 1) but I think all the evidence on 2) is that they put the paperwork in to the EFL last May and then couldn’t follow through.
You know, at this stage it’s best to concentrate on what we know for sure. Do you know it they couldn’t or wouldn’t? So much of the info we’ve received over the last two years about paperwork and the EFL has been sketchy. If the Directors’ loans haven’t been addressed, for example, could that affect the paperwork, or their willingness to submit it?
Either way, we can agree the Directors’ loans are holding things up. Roland says it’s the Directors’ fault. The Directors say it’s Roland’s. If it is Roland (which most think likely) then why is he doing it? And what can be done about it?
No, we don’t agree on that. And neither do the ex-directors.
if you wanted to lever them into cutting a deal on the loans, isn’t this exactly what you’d tell them?
So you’re saying the Directors’ loans aren’t holding things up? Surely, if the Directors haven’t been approached, then the loans can’t have been dealt with.
Doesn’t mean it’s the thing holding up the deal.
I know this whole thing is frustrating but pretty sure we have been through this hundreds of times.
Sorry to be banging on about this, but the sale can’t happen without the loans being sorted. And as the loans haven’t been sorted they are, at very least, contributing to the sale not been completed. And yes, it’s frustrating.
RD could pay the loans off on Monday if he wanted to. Get the bank details and send CHAPS payments. So if that is the only issue it's RD holding things up.
(He could have paid them off in the last few years).
If the Australians take over I will be first in line for buying season tickets.
Do we really want the Aussies after 2 years Frying pan into the fire
Yes. Because 1) it means Roland has gone 2) is there any evidence that they are the cause of the hold up
Agree with 1) but I think all the evidence on 2) is that they put the paperwork in to the EFL last May and then couldn’t follow through.
You know, at this stage it’s best to concentrate on what we know for sure. Do you know it they couldn’t or wouldn’t? So much of the info we’ve received over the last two years about paperwork and the EFL has been sketchy. If the Directors’ loans haven’t been addressed, for example, could that affect the paperwork, or their willingness to submit it?
Either way, we can agree the Directors’ loans are holding things up. Roland says it’s the Directors’ fault. The Directors say it’s Roland’s. If it is Roland (which most think likely) then why is he doing it? And what can be done about it?
No, we don’t agree on that. And neither do the ex-directors.
if you wanted to lever them into cutting a deal on the loans, isn’t this exactly what you’d tell them?
So you’re saying the Directors’ loans aren’t holding things up? Surely, if the Directors haven’t been approached, then the loans can’t have been dealt with.
Doesn’t mean it’s the thing holding up the deal.
I know this whole thing is frustrating but pretty sure we have been through this hundreds of times.
Sorry to be banging on about this, but the sale can’t happen without the loans being sorted. And as the loans haven’t been sorted they are, at very least, contributing to the sale not been completed. And yes, it’s frustrating.
The loans will play a small part. Roland being a wanker will play a big part.
I still don’t get why he wouldn’t have done it already. Doesn’t he want to sell the club? Is he so wealthy he can’t be bothered? What has this Lieven fella been doing all this time?
If the Australians take over I will be first in line for buying season tickets.
Do we really want the Aussies after 2 years Frying pan into the fire
Yes. Because 1) it means Roland has gone 2) is there any evidence that they are the cause of the hold up
Agree with 1) but I think all the evidence on 2) is that they put the paperwork in to the EFL last May and then couldn’t follow through.
You know, at this stage it’s best to concentrate on what we know for sure. Do you know it they couldn’t or wouldn’t? So much of the info we’ve received over the last two years about paperwork and the EFL has been sketchy. If the Directors’ loans haven’t been addressed, for example, could that affect the paperwork, or their willingness to submit it?
Either way, we can agree the Directors’ loans are holding things up. Roland says it’s the Directors’ fault. The Directors say it’s Roland’s. If it is Roland (which most think likely) then why is he doing it? And what can be done about it?
No, we don’t agree on that. And neither do the ex-directors.
if you wanted to lever them into cutting a deal on the loans, isn’t this exactly what you’d tell them?
So you’re saying the Directors’ loans aren’t holding things up? Surely, if the Directors haven’t been approached, then the loans can’t have been dealt with.
Doesn’t mean it’s the thing holding up the deal.
I know this whole thing is frustrating but pretty sure we have been through this hundreds of times.
Sorry to be banging on about this, but the sale can’t happen without the loans being sorted. And as the loans haven’t been sorted they are, at very least, contributing to the sale not been completed. And yes, it’s frustrating.
Correction: the sale to the Australians can’t happen without the loans being sorted....
Well I'm quite certain he thinks that & said that to my son an hour ago. If he's losing 50% he probably thinks they should too, or perhaps he feels if he's gonna lose £35M they should write it all off?
So the people (all Charlton Supporters) who loaned the business money and then were generous enough to let it float interest free for as long as takes are now expected to take a hit to give that cunt a profit! fuck him I would rather us relegated again then that odious twat make money out of our former directors.
Well I'm quite certain he thinks that & said that to my son an hour ago. If he's losing 50% he probably thinks they should too, or perhaps he feels if he's gonna lose £35M they should write it all off?
Lend us a million quid, CE. I promise I'll pay back about half in a few years' time.
So the people (all Charlton Supporters) who loaned the business money and then were generous enough to let it float interest free for as long as takes are now expected to take a hit to give that cunt a profit! fuck him I would rather us relegated again then that odious twat make money out of our former directors.
Profit? Hasn’t he spent £60-70m so far? Won’t get that when he sells.
Well I'm quite certain he thinks that & said that to my son an hour ago. If he's losing 50% he probably thinks they should too, or perhaps he feels if he's gonna lose £35M they should write it all off?
Agree with you on this, wouldn't be surprised at all if he is thinking along those lines.
Well I'm quite certain he thinks that & said that to my son an hour ago. If he's losing 50% he probably thinks they should too, or perhaps he feels if he's gonna lose £35M they should write it all off?
Agree with you on this, wouldn't be surprised at all if he is thinking along those lines.
Well I'm quite certain he thinks that & said that to my son an hour ago. If he's losing 50% he probably thinks they should too, or perhaps he feels if he's gonna lose £35M they should write it all off?
Agree with you on this, wouldn't be surprised at all if he is thinking along those lines.
Why would anyone take a haircut for his benefit?
They wouldn't, or definitely shouldn't, and I didn't say otherwise.
We are not dealing with a normal guy and I wouldn't be surprised if he thinks others should lose out because he is.
So the people (all Charlton Supporters) who loaned the business money and then were generous enough to let it float interest free for as long as takes are now expected to take a hit to give that cunt a profit! fuck him I would rather us relegated again then that odious twat make money out of our former directors.
Profit? Hasn’t he spent £60-70m so far? Won’t get that when he sells.
No Idea or give a fuck as it was his call, but all losses are due to his mad experiments that he has instigated and were followed through by his darling.
So the people (all Charlton Supporters) who loaned the business money and then were generous enough to let it float interest free for as long as takes are now expected to take a hit to give that cunt a profit! fuck him I would rather us relegated again then that odious twat make money out of our former directors.
Don't worry, if the belgian remains here we will be
If the Australians take over I will be first in line for buying season tickets.
Do we really want the Aussies after 2 years Frying pan into the fire
Yes. Because 1) it means Roland has gone 2) is there any evidence that they are the cause of the hold up
Agree with 1) but I think all the evidence on 2) is that they put the paperwork in to the EFL last May and then couldn’t follow through.
You know, at this stage it’s best to concentrate on what we know for sure. Do you know it they couldn’t or wouldn’t? So much of the info we’ve received over the last two years about paperwork and the EFL has been sketchy. If the Directors’ loans haven’t been addressed, for example, could that affect the paperwork, or their willingness to submit it?
Either way, we can agree the Directors’ loans are holding things up. Roland says it’s the Directors’ fault. The Directors say it’s Roland’s. If it is Roland (which most think likely) then why is he doing it? And what can be done about it?
No, we don’t agree on that. And neither do the ex-directors.
if you wanted to lever them into cutting a deal on the loans, isn’t this exactly what you’d tell them?
So you’re saying the Directors’ loans aren’t holding things up? Surely, if the Directors haven’t been approached, then the loans can’t have been dealt with.
Doesn’t mean it’s the thing holding up the deal.
I know this whole thing is frustrating but pretty sure we have been through this hundreds of times.
Sorry to be banging on about this, but the sale can’t happen without the loans being sorted. And as the loans haven’t been sorted they are, at very least, contributing to the sale not been completed. And yes, it’s frustrating.
And yet the club has been sold twice already, in 2010 and 2014, without them being sorted.
There is a concerted effort going on involving Gerard Murphy, Richard Murray and Roland Duchatelet to try to get the three ex-directors not named to take a financial hit. That’s what the statement is about.
If the Australians take over I will be first in line for buying season tickets.
Do we really want the Aussies after 2 years Frying pan into the fire
Yes. Because 1) it means Roland has gone 2) is there any evidence that they are the cause of the hold up
Yes imo. As stated many times the ex-director loans DO NOT HAVE TO BE REPAID NOW.......unless you want clean title. Imo the only reason why you would want clean title from day one is if you want to borrow money against the club. If not you could repay them at any time - not necessarily when /if we reached the Prem - but in a year or two when we are established in the Championship & have more money. So why the INSISTENCY of them having to be repaid now ??
Edit.
Posted the above before reading the last page, so I will ask this very nicely to @JamesSeed. Please can you tell us why the ex-director loans HAVE to be repaid before the takeover goes through & specifically why by RD ?? What do the new owners what to achieve by it ? As @Airman Brown has just stated, the club has been sold twice before without the need for them to be repaid.....so why now ??
If the Australians take over I will be first in line for buying season tickets.
Do we really want the Aussies after 2 years Frying pan into the fire
Yes. Because 1) it means Roland has gone 2) is there any evidence that they are the cause of the hold up
Agree with 1) but I think all the evidence on 2) is that they put the paperwork in to the EFL last May and then couldn’t follow through.
You know, at this stage it’s best to concentrate on what we know for sure. Do you know it they couldn’t or wouldn’t? So much of the info we’ve received over the last two years about paperwork and the EFL has been sketchy. If the Directors’ loans haven’t been addressed, for example, could that affect the paperwork, or their willingness to submit it?
Either way, we can agree the Directors’ loans are holding things up. Roland says it’s the Directors’ fault. The Directors say it’s Roland’s. If it is Roland (which most think likely) then why is he doing it? And what can be done about it?
No, we don’t agree on that. And neither do the ex-directors.
if you wanted to lever them into cutting a deal on the loans, isn’t this exactly what you’d tell them?
So you’re saying the Directors’ loans aren’t holding things up? Surely, if the Directors haven’t been approached, then the loans can’t have been dealt with.
Doesn’t mean it’s the thing holding up the deal.
I know this whole thing is frustrating but pretty sure we have been through this hundreds of times.
Sorry to be banging on about this, but the sale can’t happen without the loans being sorted. And as the loans haven’t been sorted they are, at very least, contributing to the sale not been completed. And yes, it’s frustrating.
And yet the club has been sold twice already, in 2010 and 2014, without them being sorted.
There is a concerted effort going on involving Gerard Murphy, Richard Murray and Roland Duchatelet to try to get the three ex-directors not named to take a financial hit. That’s what the statement is about.
They should be told to f*** off, no way should the ex directors have to take any form of financial hit, they already do that due to inflation/no interest.
If the Australians take over I will be first in line for buying season tickets.
Do we really want the Aussies after 2 years Frying pan into the fire
Yes. Because 1) it means Roland has gone 2) is there any evidence that they are the cause of the hold up
Agree with 1) but I think all the evidence on 2) is that they put the paperwork in to the EFL last May and then couldn’t follow through.
You know, at this stage it’s best to concentrate on what we know for sure. Do you know it they couldn’t or wouldn’t? So much of the info we’ve received over the last two years about paperwork and the EFL has been sketchy. If the Directors’ loans haven’t been addressed, for example, could that affect the paperwork, or their willingness to submit it?
Either way, we can agree the Directors’ loans are holding things up. Roland says it’s the Directors’ fault. The Directors say it’s Roland’s. If it is Roland (which most think likely) then why is he doing it? And what can be done about it?
No, we don’t agree on that. And neither do the ex-directors.
if you wanted to lever them into cutting a deal on the loans, isn’t this exactly what you’d tell them?
So you’re saying the Directors’ loans aren’t holding things up? Surely, if the Directors haven’t been approached, then the loans can’t have been dealt with.
Doesn’t mean it’s the thing holding up the deal.
I know this whole thing is frustrating but pretty sure we have been through this hundreds of times.
Sorry to be banging on about this, but the sale can’t happen without the loans being sorted. And as the loans haven’t been sorted they are, at very least, contributing to the sale not been completed. And yes, it’s frustrating.
And yet the club has been sold twice already, in 2010 and 2014, without them being sorted.
There is a concerted effort going on involving Gerard Murphy, Richard Murray and Roland Duchatelet to try to get the three ex-directors not named to take a financial hit. That’s what the statement is about.
Why ? I have no idea of what is going on but have a bad feeling about all of this. A concerted effort regarding what is a relatively small amount of money ? The Aussies still hanging around after 2 years negotiating with this madman, why ? They're not Charlton supporters, there's plenty of other clubs that they could have bought if they wanted to own a football club. The mad Belgian seemingly preferring the Aussie bid to the extent that he turned down 45mill from elsewhere while the Aussies don't appear to have the money to buy the club anyway. I get the feeling that any deal between these two is not going to be for the benefit of Charlton Athletic Football Club.
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Get the bank details and send CHAPS payments.
So if that is the only issue it's RD holding things up.
(He could have paid them off in the last few years).
First rule of the takeover
Never believe what the regime say
Second rule of the takeover
Never believe what the regime say
The fact that the regime says they haven’t been sorted doesn’t mean they have been sorted.
The bit about why they haven’t been sorted is what is concerning.
And bear in mind I didn’t get my info from the regime. Had I done, so I would have been more skeptical Mr I.
The way I see it on how he sees it is:
Why should they(the ex directs) get all of their money back when he's not getting all of his back, or all he wants back?
It's petulism. Pure and simple.
So the people (all Charlton Supporters) who loaned the business money and then were generous enough to let it float interest free for as long as takes are now expected to take a hit to give that cunt a profit! fuck him I would rather us relegated again then that odious twat make money out of our former directors.
It's funny to see the "informed" opinions on here.
All those saying something's going on and all those saying nothing are just having a guess or feeding on other people's guesses.
We are not dealing with a normal guy and I wouldn't be surprised if he thinks others should lose out because he is.
There is a concerted effort going on involving Gerard Murphy, Richard Murray and Roland Duchatelet to try to get the three ex-directors not named to take a financial hit. That’s what the statement is about.
Edit.
Posted the above before reading the last page, so I will ask this very nicely to @JamesSeed. Please can you tell us why the ex-director loans HAVE to be repaid before the takeover goes through & specifically why by RD ?? What do the new owners what to achieve by it ? As @Airman Brown has just stated, the club has been sold twice before without the need for them to be repaid.....so why now ??