I got a feeling in 12 months time rat would of wished he taken 30m as another year of losses and a no investment in the squad we could be heading to league 2 with even less chance of getting what he wants.
There are so many conflicting messages at present. The reported £30millon offer in the Standard, LdT’s statement that “Roland won’t lower his price” (whatever that may be - although he would say that, wouldn’t he ?) and the David White interview, which is highly credible (albeit he is not, as he acknowledges, in the loop).
My fear is that, given the buffer of his personal wealth, Duchatelet may chose to simply sit it out, with a vague and ill-considered plan of further cost cutting and the odd player sale or sell-on fee to mitigate the annual losses. I expect him to explore the possibility of somehow exploiting the real estate, although that will presumably prove futile.
One optimistic interpretation of his rant against the EFL is that he is laying the ground for his exit and the narrative that the failure of the venture is nothing to do with him but the fault of others. Something to tell his cronies. A more prosaic - and pessimistic- interpretation is that nothing has changed and that he is (as is his wont) simply lashing out when provoked.
On the basis that we cannot allow our club to continue to shrink, all we can do is to get behind the initiatives of CARD and others to put pressure on Duchatelet to end this limbo. Protests, especially in Belgium, are clearly his soft spot.
What is puzzling is why the Aussies haven't walked away. And if they have, why it took them so long to do so. Logic would say, they are not far from the price agreement wise but haven't got the money. If they thought Roland was asking too much, why wouldn't they walk away sooner? There is a lot about all of this that doesn't make sense. Is there presence more helpful to Roland than us? I don't know. There seems to be more questions than answers.
Let’s say they have spent £1m plus on DD, that is a lot to walk away from,especially if they think no one else is serious. They could (and I suspect have) simply said to RD ‘our top price is £x, take it or leave it’ - he has said not now and they are stuck at an impasse. He knows he has them as a fall back but is trying to find more, all the while losing money. Why? Because he is clearly mental.
1568 pages and counting. The only thing stopping someone buying this club is that Shitweasel is asking far to much. He really is a deluded old fool and the longer he owns us the more money he will lose. Any sane person worth the best part of a Billion would accept a bid of around 30 million and walk away and enjoy the rest of their life . There lies the problem .He ain't sane. God knows how this will end up or how much longer we have to put up with the prick. I just hope he doesn't try and screw us out of spite and that he goes soon and we can look forward to being a normal football club once again.
Mate, he currently is screwing us out of spite, has been for as long as I care to remember now, and will continue to do so.
1568 pages and counting. The only thing stopping someone buying this club is that Shitweasel is asking far to much. He really is a deluded old fool and the longer he owns us the more money he will lose. Any sane person worth the best part of a Billion would accept a bid of around 30 million and walk away and enjoy the rest of their life . There lies the problem .He ain't sane. God knows how this will end up or how much longer we have to put up with the prick. I just hope he doesn't try and screw us out of spite and that he goes soon and we can look forward to being a normal football club once again.
Mate, he currently is screwing us out of spite, has been for as long as I care to remember now, and will continue to do so.
What is puzzling is why the Aussies haven't walked away. And if they have, why it took them so long to do so. Logic would say, they are not far from the price agreement wise but haven't got the money. If they thought Roland was asking too much, why wouldn't they walk away sooner? There is a lot about all of this that doesn't make sense. Is there presence more helpful to Roland than us? I don't know. There seems to be more questions than answers.
Let’s say they have spent £1m plus on DD, that is a lot to walk away from,especially if they think no one else is serious. They could (and I suspect have) simply said to RD ‘our top price is £x, take it or leave it’ - he has said not now and they are stuck at an impasse. He knows he has them as a fall back but is trying to find more, all the while losing money. Why? Because he is clearly mental.
I think they’ve spent a bit more, but otherwise that’s roughly why they’re still there. No benefit in walking away. His problem, as we’ve seen, is keeping the consortium together, while Roland messes everybody about.
What is puzzling is why the Aussies haven't walked away. And if they have, why it took them so long to do so. Logic would say, they are not far from the price agreement wise but haven't got the money. If they thought Roland was asking too much, why wouldn't they walk away sooner? There is a lot about all of this that doesn't make sense. Is there presence more helpful to Roland than us? I don't know. There seems to be more questions than answers.
Let’s say they have spent £1m plus on DD, that is a lot to walk away from,especially if they think no one else is serious. They could (and I suspect have) simply said to RD ‘our top price is £x, take it or leave it’ - he has said not now and they are stuck at an impasse. He knows he has them as a fall back but is trying to find more, all the while losing money. Why? Because he is clearly mental.
I think they’ve spent a bit more, but otherwise that’s roughly why they’re still there. No benefit in walking away. His problem, as we’ve seen, is keeping the consortium together, while Roland messes everybody about.
Yes, I must admit I forgot about the serious amount of money they have put in. But surely there must be a point where you realise it isn't going to happen. The worry is that Roland may be using the fact they are there as a kind of insurance whilst he tries to find something better.
What is puzzling is why the Aussies haven't walked away. And if they have, why it took them so long to do so. Logic would say, they are not far from the price agreement wise but haven't got the money. If they thought Roland was asking too much, why wouldn't they walk away sooner? There is a lot about all of this that doesn't make sense. Is there presence more helpful to Roland than us? I don't know. There seems to be more questions than answers.
Let’s say they have spent £1m plus on DD, that is a lot to walk away from,especially if they think no one else is serious. They could (and I suspect have) simply said to RD ‘our top price is £x, take it or leave it’ - he has said not now and they are stuck at an impasse. He knows he has them as a fall back but is trying to find more, all the while losing money. Why? Because he is clearly mental.
I think they’ve spent a bit more, but otherwise that’s roughly why they’re still there. No benefit in walking away. His problem, as we’ve seen, is keeping the consortium together, while Roland messes everybody about.
Yes, I must admit I forgot about the serious amount of money they have put in. But surely there must be a point where you realise it isn't going to happen. The worry is that Roland may be using the fact they are there as a kind of insurance whilst he tries to find something better.
I hope that’s not the case. If the Aussies pulled out I suspect Roland would just carry on being Roland. I doubt he’d suddenly accept the £30m bid. But maybe this banker will increase his offer.
What is puzzling is why the Aussies haven't walked away. And if they have, why it took them so long to do so. Logic would say, they are not far from the price agreement wise but haven't got the money. If they thought Roland was asking too much, why wouldn't they walk away sooner? There is a lot about all of this that doesn't make sense. Is there presence more helpful to Roland than us? I don't know. There seems to be more questions than answers.
Let’s say they have spent £1m plus on DD, that is a lot to walk away from,especially if they think no one else is serious. They could (and I suspect have) simply said to RD ‘our top price is £x, take it or leave it’ - he has said not now and they are stuck at an impasse. He knows he has them as a fall back but is trying to find more, all the while losing money. Why? Because he is clearly mental.
I think they’ve spent a bit more, but otherwise that’s roughly why they’re still there. No benefit in walking away. His problem, as we’ve seen, is keeping the consortium together, while Roland messes everybody about.
Yes, I must admit I forgot about the serious amount of money they have put in. But surely there must be a point where you realise it isn't going to happen. The worry is that Roland may be using the fact they are there as a kind of insurance whilst he tries to find something better.
If the numbers we are all guessing at are anywhere near right, then the Aussies have spent a serious amount of money and that might be a good reason to hang on. However, they also know that Roland is losing about the same about every five or six weeks. So the longer they hold on, the smaller their costs become, compared to his.
What is puzzling is why the Aussies haven't walked away. And if they have, why it took them so long to do so. Logic would say, they are not far from the price agreement wise but haven't got the money. If they thought Roland was asking too much, why wouldn't they walk away sooner? There is a lot about all of this that doesn't make sense. Is there presence more helpful to Roland than us? I don't know. There seems to be more questions than answers.
Totally agree. Think the Aussies should have walked away months ago. Ok they have spent a lot of money on DD But at the end of the day nothing I would have thought they knew Grotty teeth’s price before DD took place as for the play offs scarf fiasco they made themselves a joke
What is puzzling is why the Aussies haven't walked away. And if they have, why it took them so long to do so. Logic would say, they are not far from the price agreement wise but haven't got the money. If they thought Roland was asking too much, why wouldn't they walk away sooner? There is a lot about all of this that doesn't make sense. Is there presence more helpful to Roland than us? I don't know. There seems to be more questions than answers.
Totally agree. Think the Aussies should have walked away months ago. Ok they have spent a lot of money on DD But at the end of the day nothing I would have thought they knew Grotty teeth’s price before DD took place as for the play offs scarf fiasco they made themselves a joke
Why should they have walked away?
If their intention is to end up as owners, wouldn't it be better not to walk away? And, if you agree with that, isn't the further inference that, as they haven't walked away, then they intend to end up as owners?
What is puzzling is why the Aussies haven't walked away. And if they have, why it took them so long to do so. Logic would say, they are not far from the price agreement wise but haven't got the money. If they thought Roland was asking too much, why wouldn't they walk away sooner? There is a lot about all of this that doesn't make sense. Is there presence more helpful to Roland than us? I don't know. There seems to be more questions than answers.
Totally agree. Think the Aussies should have walked away months ago. Ok they have spent a lot of money on DD But at the end of the day nothing I would have thought they knew Grotty teeth’s price before DD took place as for the play offs scarf fiasco they made themselves a joke
Maybe they should have walked away. But then they’d have lost, and in a twisted sort of a way, Roland would have won.
What is puzzling is why the Aussies haven't walked away. And if they have, why it took them so long to do so. Logic would say, they are not far from the price agreement wise but haven't got the money. If they thought Roland was asking too much, why wouldn't they walk away sooner? There is a lot about all of this that doesn't make sense. Is there presence more helpful to Roland than us? I don't know. There seems to be more questions than answers.
Totally agree. Think the Aussies should have walked away months ago. Ok they have spent a lot of money on DD But at the end of the day nothing I would have thought they knew Grotty teeth’s price before DD took place as for the play offs scarf fiasco they made themselves a joke
Maybe they should have walked away. But then they’d have lost, and in a twisted sort of a way, Roland would have won.
Unless the Aussies buy us they have lost. Lost money Lost credibility What have they actually won.
What is puzzling is why the Aussies haven't walked away. And if they have, why it took them so long to do so. Logic would say, they are not far from the price agreement wise but haven't got the money. If they thought Roland was asking too much, why wouldn't they walk away sooner? There is a lot about all of this that doesn't make sense. Is there presence more helpful to Roland than us? I don't know. There seems to be more questions than answers.
Totally agree. Think the Aussies should have walked away months ago. Ok they have spent a lot of money on DD But at the end of the day nothing I would have thought they knew Grotty teeth’s price before DD took place as for the play offs scarf fiasco they made themselves a joke
Maybe they should have walked away. But then they’d have lost, and in a twisted sort of a way, Roland would have won.
Unless the Aussies buy us they have lost. Lost money Lost credibility What have they actually won.
Clearly they haven’t bought the club, but it’s looking increasingly like that might have something to do with Roland?
Although i suspect another bidder will pop up out of nowhere and buy the club.
I can't imagine an NDA preventing say, Murphy announcing to the press, our valuation is £30m. The owner wants more.
I would imagine the NDA would absolutely cover this sort of thing and Murphy would be leaving himself open to being sued. If he was to become an owner in future I would hope he was a little more sensible than that
You don't spend £1m on DD that tells you the club is worth say £25m and then offer £35m. The DD money is a sunk cost, but effectively saves them (whoever 'they' are) from overpaying. Spend £1m to save wasting £10m? Bargain!
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My fear is that, given the buffer of his personal wealth, Duchatelet may chose to simply sit it out, with a vague and ill-considered plan of further cost cutting and the odd player sale or sell-on fee to mitigate the annual losses. I expect him to explore the possibility of somehow exploiting the real estate, although that will presumably prove futile.
One optimistic interpretation of his rant against the EFL is that he is laying the ground for his exit and the narrative that the failure of the venture is nothing to do with him but the fault of others. Something to tell his cronies. A more prosaic - and pessimistic- interpretation is that nothing has changed and that he is (as is his wont) simply lashing out when provoked.
On the basis that we cannot allow our club to continue to shrink, all we can do is to get behind the initiatives of CARD and others to put pressure on Duchatelet to end this limbo. Protests, especially in Belgium, are clearly his soft spot.
Yes, I must admit I forgot about the serious amount of money they have put in. But surely there must be a point where you realise it isn't going to happen. The worry is that Roland may be using the fact they are there as a kind of insurance whilst he tries to find something better.
If the Aussies pulled out I suspect Roland would just carry on being Roland. I doubt he’d suddenly accept the £30m bid. But maybe this banker will increase his offer.
as for the play offs scarf fiasco they made themselves a joke
If their intention is to end up as owners, wouldn't it be better not to walk away? And, if you agree with that, isn't the further inference that, as they haven't walked away, then they intend to end up as owners?
Lost money
Lost credibility
What have they actually won.
Although i suspect another bidder will pop up out of nowhere and buy the club.
Muir can offer it to other groups as a way of speeding the process and getting membership of new groupings.
And he can share the cost with those newer bidders.
The DD money is a sunk cost, but effectively saves them (whoever 'they' are) from overpaying.
Spend £1m to save wasting £10m? Bargain!
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-03-08/josh-harris-david-blitzer-said-to-seek-sale-of-u-k-soccer-club