If he genuinely wants to understand our viewpoint, the "Getting to Know the Network" pieces will give him a very good start where he can form his own opinions without his new employer looking over his shoulder.
Started off well hasn't he, have to assume the Co'l statement was bullshit & then he doesn't know why we are protesting when I would suggest that everybody involved in the Football league have some idea of the problems in SE7 & yet "from what he has been told by the owners they are doing a good job" (you really couldn't make it up could you ?) good luck on the playing side Karl & sounds as though you'll fit in well with the smt
It isn't fair and unreasonable for him to get involved - he just needs to get the team playing. We need to help him out a bit and keep him out of it!
Yep I agree, but thought it was interesting that he brought this all up when all I said was I was a Charlton fan. I barely said much he just came out with a lot of it. Says a lot about the type of person he is, wont shy away from it. I have a feeling Slade for example would have just said some generic hope to see you on Saturday at the valley and ignored the fact there are protests going on etc. he has already talked more about them than Slade ever did.
I fully support CAST meeting Robinson but you can guarantee that Meire won't allow it unmediated or without other handpicked individuals who can be relied on to misrepresent the situation.
That's probably true but it would almost certainly start to ring alarm bells with Mr. Robinson. I think he's his own man and is astute enough to see through any smoke and mirrors that the club want to put in the way.
As much as I'd like to agree, Shootie, I can't help but ponder whether the fact he even took the job in the first place demonstrates he's not the best at seeing through smoke and mirrors.
If this exchange did take place, and I was skeptical at first but have no reason to disbelieve OP, then that would suggest he's had his head in the sand throughout excessive media coverage, including news articles that have quouted GTKTN.
I somehow doubt this is the case, a man who spent his time in between jobs watching French football as a form of professional development, is clearly a man who has a passion for his work. I'd expect his research before taking on the job to be first rate, and his knowledge of current affairs in the league to be brilliant.
It's baffling to consider that he may not understand our issues, and that he may have taken Roland's words at face value. After all, Roland has sacked so many managers that there would be some natural skepticism! I suspect he may have an ulterior motive behind wanting to meet the protestors, potentially he sees himself as a grand unifier?
Was in a petrol station last night in lee and Karl Robinson drove in, didn't want to bother him but though id go and say hello and shake his hand. I said to him I just wanted to say hello as I'm a big Charlton fan, he then asked if I was one of the good ones or bad ones in a jokey way. I told him that I do help out with the protests and he responded by saying that he really wants to meet us and understand why we are protesting because from what he has been told by the owners they are doing a good job. He kept stressing that he wanted to meet the people protesting.
I couldn't really get a word in edgeways with him, but he talked about Chris O'Laughlin and stressed that it was his choice to keep him here (felt that was odd for him to bring up as I hadn't) He then said "you know he's not going to sell the club"
I asked him if he had seen the emails, he said he hadn't.
He then said that Roland admitted to him that when he bought the club he did not understand English football. (don't know what's changed because he has seen at most 2 matches live since?)
He also stated that he was very ambitious and wants to get into the premier league and he feels that he is now at a club that can achieve that. He said that Roland has the funds to back us in the premier league.
Came across as a really genuine guy, don't doubt that he believes what he's saying, but obviously does not know all the lies we have been told for the past 3 years and what has driven us to this point. From meeting him I doubt that he would take any crap from the owners, but who knows {...}
"I go to the Oxo tower and there are Charlton fans, I go to fill the car up, more Charlton fans. Only place I don't see many Charlton fans is at home games and a lot of those are protesting. Just as well the club is being well run or we'd really have problems.
I'm sure KR is sincere in that he believes the things he's said so far. Trouble is benjest's encounter and the quotes on KentLive (http://www.kentlive.news/new-charlton-athletic-boss-drops-massive-transfer-hint-for-january/story-29948503-detail/story.html) simply don't chime with anything Roly and his rabble have said or done to this point. An indefatigable optimist, who is regularly accused of viewing the world thru the rosiest of tinted spectacles, I always hear the lark on the wing, see the snail on the thorn, with my hat assuredly on the side of my head, I take everything for the best in this best of all possible worlds, where every prospect pleases...etc, BUT Has KR done no research at all? "...stated he will be having a big say in which players come to Charlton..." has never meant the manager/head coach/whatever gets to sign who he'd really like. "...I know this level...If I don't, then I wouldn't have done my job right for the six years..." erm you just got sacked..? "There won't be a player I want that they don't want, or a player they want that I don't" which adds up to no signings at all. Cos if Driesen says 'Non' Roly says 'Nee'. "..He said that Roland has the funds to back us in the premier league.." maybe but Roly hasn't spent anything like championship money on the team in 3 years and any funds for playing staff are only going to come from selling Ademola, Fox, Konsa and cashing in on Ricky Holmes if he stays fit enough to further enhance his reputation. Which all adds up to zero progression, coupled with ever diminishing ticket sales. Anybody offering the sort of candour KR appears to have done in the last couple of days would normally expect the boot from Roly, in short order. After 3 years of Roly's stubborn blundering and Katy's relentless mendacity I'm not ready to believe they've had a sudden change of policy or a Damascus road enlightenment in football business management. Less surprising would be KR and Roly "cancelling the contract by mutual consent" especially if Saturday's FA Cup fixture goes well for KR's former employer. Chillingly the only KR quote that rings remotely credible is the one about Roly not selling. Happy Friday one and all - keep smilin'
In a similar way to civil servants producing briefing material for a new government ministers perhaps we could produce a briefing pack for Karl that summarises why we are protesting areas what has taken place over the last 3 years.
I know the stuff is out there but putting it all in one place simply and clearly wouldn't be a bad idea. We could even make a PowerPoint just like Miere's.
We would also be able to reuse it for the next manager in 3 months time.
KR seems genuinely bermused by the protests. He's clearly been fed a pack of lies & was brainwashed into believing them. I don't think he's the sort of guy that will suffer fools so he'll be gone in 6 months once he realises how poisonous they are
If you work in any field you know what's going in that industry outside of your own company especially the reasons people are sacked, resigned, general gossip or clubs in trouble, players unhappy etc
Managers meet after games for a drink and always discuss gossip.
For him to not know actually he would not be doing his job properly.
KR seems genuinely bermused by the protests. He's clearly been fed a pack of lies & was brainwashed into believing them. I don't think he's the sort of guy that will suffer fools so he'll be gone in 6 months once he realises how poisonous they are
More likely he'll be sacked before realising then.
Beyond Daisy's revelation that they want to give us a unique football experience, where we can all see the stars of the future play for Charlton before being sold on to the premiership, this regime has never been able to express a vision for the football club. As such, I was left slightly bemused when I read the article in Tuesday's Evening Standard. The sentence that stood out for me is as follows:
"Robinson took the Charlton job last week after meeting Duchatelet in Paris and says he was sold by his vision for the club during their three-and-a-half hour meeting".
Sorry, but this just reeks of BS to me and when considered alongside some of KR's other utterences, it seems his focus is on PR as much as football.
Perhaps Pitch will offer him employment when CO'L gets his job
Beyond Daisy's revelation that they want to give us a unique football experience, where we can all see the stars of the future play for Charlton before being sold on to the premiership, this regime has never been able to express a vision for the football club. As such, I was left slightly bemused when I read the article in Tuesday's Evening Standard. The sentence that stood out for me is as follows:
"Robinson took the Charlton job last week after meeting Duchatelet in Paris and says he was sold by his vision for the club during their three-and-a-half hour meeting".
Sorry, but this just reeks of BS to me and when considered alongside some of KR's other utterences, it seems his focus is on PR as much as football.
Perhaps Pitch will offer him employment when CO'L gets his job
It might well be bollocks but what is he supposed to say? He's not going to say, "i'm out of work and desperate for a job"!
If you listened to Louis' charlton live show yesterday, they had an interview with Robinson and he came across very well, plus an interview with one of the guys who met with him the other night at the ground who was impressed with him.
I strongly believe that KR is the regime's best appointment by far.
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Just to keep an objective balance of course!
Will be both pro and anti-regime people there but they are all "good" fans.
Does himself a disservice by making this statement.
Still wish him well for his short stay with us
I have a feeling Slade for example would have just said some generic hope to see you on Saturday at the valley and ignored the fact there are protests going on etc.
he has already talked more about them than Slade ever did.
If this exchange did take place, and I was skeptical at first but have no reason to disbelieve OP, then that would suggest he's had his head in the sand throughout excessive media coverage, including news articles that have quouted GTKTN.
I somehow doubt this is the case, a man who spent his time in between jobs watching French football as a form of professional development, is clearly a man who has a passion for his work. I'd expect his research before taking on the job to be first rate, and his knowledge of current affairs in the league to be brilliant.
It's baffling to consider that he may not understand our issues, and that he may have taken Roland's words at face value. After all, Roland has sacked so many managers that there would be some natural skepticism! I suspect he may have an ulterior motive behind wanting to meet the protestors, potentially he sees himself as a grand unifier?
"I go to the Oxo tower and there are Charlton fans, I go to fill the car up, more Charlton fans. Only place I don't see many Charlton fans is at home games and a lot of those are protesting. Just as well the club is being well run or we'd really have problems.
Trouble is benjest's encounter and the quotes on KentLive (http://www.kentlive.news/new-charlton-athletic-boss-drops-massive-transfer-hint-for-january/story-29948503-detail/story.html) simply don't chime with anything Roly and his rabble have said or done to this point.
An indefatigable optimist, who is regularly accused of viewing the world thru the rosiest of tinted spectacles, I always hear the lark on the wing, see the snail on the thorn, with my hat assuredly on the side of my head, I take everything for the best in this best of all possible worlds, where every prospect pleases...etc, BUT
Has KR done no research at all?
"...stated he will be having a big say in which players come to Charlton..." has never meant the manager/head coach/whatever gets to sign who he'd really like.
"...I know this level...If I don't, then I wouldn't have done my job right for the six years..." erm you just got sacked..?
"There won't be a player I want that they don't want, or a player they want that I don't" which adds up to no signings at all. Cos if Driesen says 'Non' Roly says 'Nee'.
"..He said that Roland has the funds to back us in the premier league.." maybe but Roly hasn't spent anything like championship money on the team in 3 years and any funds for playing staff are only going to come from selling Ademola, Fox, Konsa and cashing in on Ricky Holmes if he stays fit enough to further enhance his reputation. Which all adds up to zero progression, coupled with ever diminishing ticket sales.
Anybody offering the sort of candour KR appears to have done in the last couple of days would normally expect the boot from Roly, in short order.
After 3 years of Roly's stubborn blundering and Katy's relentless mendacity I'm not ready to believe they've had a sudden change of policy or a Damascus road enlightenment in football business management.
Less surprising would be KR and Roly "cancelling the contract by mutual consent" especially if Saturday's FA Cup fixture goes well for KR's former employer.
Chillingly the only KR quote that rings remotely credible is the one about Roly not selling.
Happy Friday one and all - keep smilin'
I know the stuff is out there but putting it all in one place simply and clearly wouldn't be a bad idea. We could even make a PowerPoint just like Miere's.
We would also be able to reuse it for the next manager in 3 months time.
Managers meet after games for a drink and always discuss gossip.
For him to not know actually he would not be doing his job properly.
"Robinson took the Charlton job last week after meeting Duchatelet in Paris and says he was sold by his vision for the club during their three-and-a-half hour meeting".
Sorry, but this just reeks of BS to me and when considered alongside some of KR's other utterences, it seems his focus is on PR as much as football.
Perhaps Pitch will offer him employment when CO'L gets his job
If you listened to Louis' charlton live show yesterday, they had an interview with Robinson and he came across very well, plus an interview with one of the guys who met with him the other night at the ground who was impressed with him.
I strongly believe that KR is the regime's best appointment by far.