It's weird - he's like the new chef at a really, really badly run restaurant which has been serving terrible food - unfit for human consumption - for the last 3 years & has lost most of its customers. He cant understand why the customers are upset & staying away because the owner - who never eats there - tells him that everything is great - he'll soon discover he'll be cooking with the same ingredients.
It's weird - he's like the new chef at a really, really badly run restaurant which has been serving terrible food - unfit for human consumption - for the last 3 years & has lost most of its customers. He cant understand why the customers are upset & staying away because the owner - who never eats there - tells him that everything is great - he'll soon discover he'll be cooking with the same ingredients.
Gordon Ramsey heads a consortium to buy this nightmare of a club and turn it around. this needs to happen.
first meeting with Roland, Meire and the rest of the SMT...
then I think we're all going to be excited not least Gordon himself...
It's weird - he's like the new chef at a really, really badly run restaurant which has been serving terrible food - unfit for human consumption - for the last 3 years & has lost most of its customers. He cant understand why the customers are upset & staying away because the owner - who never eats there - tells him that everything is great - he'll soon discover he'll be cooking with the same ingredients.
However the ingredients aren't currently that bad, there's enough there to work with at this level of restaurant, it's just the previous chef wasn't adventurous enough and kept serving up bland food.
It's weird - he's like the new chef at a really, really badly run restaurant which has been serving terrible food - unfit for human consumption - for the last 3 years & has lost most of its customers. He cant understand why the customers are upset & staying away because the owner - who never eats there - tells him that everything is great - he'll soon discover he'll be cooking with the same ingredients.
That is a great analogy. This sums up the situation at the Valley perfectly.
So Roland apparently admitted to not knowing much about English football. So much for researching your potential purchase. Our famous football club....a rich man's play-thing....and we have been dragged through three tedious years of numerous reorganisations, much ridicule and near ruination. What a farce.
Bit concerned he seems willing to inject himself into the dispute between the fans and the owners. He seems to have a very sketchy knowledge about the background. And I am not going to judge him on that. Unless I have missed something he has been employed solely as the football coach to the first team with the remit of winning promotion. His experience and achievements as a football coach are the only attributes I am concerned about. I don't won't him to think he has some sort of a PR role to play in rebuilding the trust between the owners and the fans. That would be a distraction and a waste of his time.
The simple fact he referred to some fans as "the bad ones" tells me all I need to know about him at this moment in time. He is on their side. Not the fans. People often say things "as a joke", but this is nothing more than a method of getting their point of view or opinion across without directly offending the person listening.
How the hell he can believe that the owners are doing a great job when the rest of the football world disagrees is beyond me? He is either naive. Stupid. Ignorant, or all three.
He is here like the rest of them - pick up a pay cheque, hope for the best, bag myself a decent contract for some financial protection and kiss the boss' ass.
He will be gone by February once we are in a relegation battle, have sold Lookman and are all pinning our hopes on a random striker no one has heard of, touted as the next best thing by our 'boy scout' from behind his laptop.
The simple fact he referred to some fans as "the bad ones" tells me all I need to know about him at this moment in time. He is on their side. Not the fans. People often say things "as a joke", but this is nothing more than a method of getting their point of view or opinion across without directly offending the person listening.
How the hell he can believe that the owners are doing a great job when the rest of the football world disagrees is beyond me? He is either naive. Stupid. Ignorant, or all three.
He is here like the rest of them - pick up a pay cheque, hope for the best, bag myself a decent contract for some financial protection and kiss the boss' ass.
He will be gone by February once we are in a relegation battle, have sold Lookman and are all pinning our hopes on a random striker no one has heard of, touted as the next best thing by our 'boy scout' from behind his laptop.
The simple fact that he was prepared to take the job - period, speaks volumes!!
I fully support CAST meeting Robinson but you can guarantee that Meire won't allow it unmediated or without other handpicked individuals who can be relied on to misrepresent the situation.
Was in a petrol station last night in lee and Karl Robinson drove in, didn't want to bother him but though id go and say hello and shake his hand. I said to him I just wanted to say hello as I'm a big Charlton fan, he then asked if I was one of the good ones or bad ones in a jokey way. I told him that I do help out with the protests and he responded by saying that he really wants to meet us and understand why we are protesting because from what he has been told by the owners they are doing a good job. He kept stressing that he wanted to meet the people protesting.
I couldn't really get a word in edgeways with him, but he talked about Chris O'Laughlin and stressed that it was his choice to keep him here (felt that was odd for him to bring up as I hadn't) He then said "you know he's not going to sell the club"
I asked him if he had seen the emails, he said he hadn't.
He then said that Roland admitted to him that when he bought the club he did not understand English football. (don't know what's changed because he has seen at most 2 matches live since?)
He also stated that he was very ambitious and wants to get into the premier league and he feels that he is now at a club that can achieve that. He said that Roland has the funds to back us in the premier league.
Came across as a really genuine guy, don't doubt that he believes what he's saying, but obviously does not know all the lies we have been told for the past 3 years and what has driven us to this point. From meeting him I doubt that he would take any crap from the owners, but who knows {...}
After the first few lines, I honestly thought you were going to say he stole your hub caps.
Bit concerned he seems willing to inject himself into the dispute between the fans and the owners. He seems to have a very sketchy knowledge about the background. And I am not going to judge him on that. Unless I have missed something he has been employed solely as the football coach to the first team with the remit of winning promotion. His experience and achievements as a football coach are the only attributes I am concerned about. I don't won't him to think he has some sort of a PR role to play in rebuilding the trust between the owners and the fans. That would be a distraction and a waste of his time.
Like it or not all football managers have a PR role to play. They are front of house. Speak to the media and cannot divorce themselves from the club politics. It would certainly assist Robinson in his footballing duties if everything at the club was rosy. It's not and I applaud his action to find out why.
Got to give him credit, have any other managers offered to meet the disgruntled majority to try and hear their point of view and essentially understand what we want from him.
Genuinely believe he wants to understand the fans and start a proper rebuilding mission. Not like slade who was an up his own arse rude prick
I fully support CAST meeting Robinson but you can guarantee that Meire won't allow it unmediated or without other handpicked individuals who can be relied on to misrepresent the situation.
That's probably true but it would almost certainly start to ring alarm bells with Mr. Robinson. I think he's his own man and is astute enough to see through any smoke and mirrors that the club want to put in the way.
Should this meeting take place with some "bad ones" please point out that the missing 4000+ is not due to relegation (some maybe) as the liar seems to point out at every opportunity. I have been at the Valley since 65/66 season I have seen a few relegations, I have seen the wilderness years at shithouse park & across the water at the ratepayers football clubs old ground & I never thought of not attending as this was MY club, whatever happened it was MY club. I never imagined I would ever walk away, sadly these incompetent vile liars have forced me to do just that. Relegations, shit football, players who didn't give a shit, playing at other clubs grounds, selling our best players never managed in 50 odd years what this bunch of cunts have managed in less than 3 years. Burnley was my last game until they're gone, if they never go neither will I. I may grieve as we do when we lose a loved one but over time the grief will grow easier to deal with, the love will still be there but life goes on. Make sure Robinson knows this but from his apparent self denial of what is going on leads me to believe that he's as big a liar (or at the least turning a blind eye) as the rest of them.
an mk dons has been is not our saviour, rolands still a piece of lying scum and likewise with his employee miss meire. i support charlton through and through, but i dont think kr will be here at the end of the season keep up the protests and hopefully he will sell sooner rather than later.
The simple fact he referred to some fans as "the bad ones" tells me all I need to know about him at this moment in time. He is on their side. Not the fans.
It's just a throwaway comment that he probably made with a smile on his face. I'm not digging out anyone personally but we have become such a sensitive cynical bunch recently. One random conversation in a garage and people are jumping on every quoted word! Have you not sometimes made a comment in a passing conversation that you maybe didn't mean? Or that may have been open to interpretation?
My dislike of the owners will not change but I have been impressed by Robinson so far and he will get my full support for now. Some of us need to take a chill pill.
I know it would not happen but I'd have been more impressed with KR if he had offered to meet sections of the supporters, pro and anti regime, under the radar of the SMT. Nevertheless he has access to the internet and Jimmy Stone's podcast even wraps it up in a beautiful package so he need not trawl through months of angry posts to get the picture.
So Karl. I support the protests so you might describe me as a 'bad one'. Previously I had a season ticket for 45 consecutive years. Does that make me extra bad? This regime would not describe a loyal fan like me as a 'good one' Karl.
It's weird - he's like the new chef at a really, really badly run restaurant which has been serving terrible food - unfit for human consumption - for the last 3 years & has lost most of its customers. He cant understand why the customers are upset & staying away because the owner - who never eats there - tells him that everything is great - he'll soon discover he'll be cooking with the same ingredients.
That is a great analogy. This sums up the situation at the Valley perfectly.
Quite a poor analogy actually!
You can get a chef from a greasy spoon and give him the same ingredients as Marco Pierre White and you're definitely not going to have the same end result!
Karel Fraye (Greasy spoon) - Karl Robinson (MPW) hopefully!
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first meeting with Roland, Meire and the rest of the SMT...
then I think we're all going to be excited not least Gordon himself...
Must admit I am warming greatly to Mr. Robinson.
How the hell he can believe that the owners are doing a great job when the rest of the football world disagrees is beyond me? He is either naive. Stupid. Ignorant, or all three.
He is here like the rest of them - pick up a pay cheque, hope for the best, bag myself a decent contract for some financial protection and kiss the boss' ass.
He will be gone by February once we are in a relegation battle, have sold Lookman and are all pinning our hopes on a random striker no one has heard of, touted as the next best thing by our 'boy scout' from behind his laptop.
Genuinely believe he wants to understand the fans and start a proper rebuilding mission. Not like slade who was an up his own arse rude prick
He's just another one to add to the list who had been fed a steaming pile of bullshit.
One random conversation in a garage and people are jumping on every quoted word! Have you not sometimes made a comment in a passing conversation that you maybe didn't mean? Or that may have been open to interpretation?
My dislike of the owners will not change but I have been impressed by Robinson so far and he will get my full support for now. Some of us need to take a chill pill.
I thought I heard him say he already had in his first interview?
Previously I had a season ticket for 45 consecutive years. Does that make me extra bad?
This regime would not describe a loyal fan like me as a 'good one' Karl.
You can get a chef from a greasy spoon and give him the same ingredients as Marco Pierre White and you're definitely not going to have the same end result!
Karel Fraye (Greasy spoon) - Karl Robinson (MPW) hopefully!