I'm actually with @colthe3rd on this one. Bit of a storm in a tea cup. As said Charlton have always done this and there are a few on here who have had an 'interview' with Mick previously. Don't think any of them have not been allowed to return.
The letter is a bit bull in a China shop, but the guy is new and wanted to make a point that they consider his actions near the mark. The fact that no ABC was drawn up would support that.
I do think some people are a little bit paranoid about the Club taking action, but other than Cahones pouring over this and other forums a couple of pitch invasion bans and having a few telephone conversations with @C4FC4L1f3 I'm not aware of any other sanctions.
They even sold me our Bury tickets without any grief.
Normally in that meeting the person involved had done something far more worthy of a discussion, an abc for saying bad things on social media come on this is the biggest over reaction by the club and they chose who they delivered it too carefully, there are many who have typed worse and requested to do worse who they would not call in to this meeting as those people would not accept anyone talking to them about what can be said against these cnuts, it's an attempt to bully manipulate and drive home a message that will curtail those normally passive fans who are turning
And Sue parkes I have never said nothing about you before but you can fuck right off with your bullshit patronising ways,
The meeting was about foul and abusive language recorded inside the ground as well as the club's social media.
The guy admitted he was wrong and got his season ticket.
Personal abuse is not tolerated on any website.
But the letter wasn't - it says nothing about behaviour in the ground at all - and it's the letter which has seen the club ridiculed by virtually every mainstream news outlet.
It's quite ridiculous to pretend the club has acted sensibly and reasonably against such overwhelming criticism from neutral third parties.
But they did say it in the statement on the OS.
Let's also not pretend that any media outlet give a shit about what happens at the club. All of this makes good copy for them. Basically anything that gets retweeted a couple of thousand times can make national news.
This isn't to defend the club, I think they dealt with it poorly in regards to that letter, I just don't think you can point to what is in the news as to a justification of what you believe.
After the event. After they had been ridiculed by all and sundry. After they had been warned the letter was explosive.
Few of us would have an issue with the club calling in someone who had abused staff or misbehaved at matches, but they need to say that up front - or say nothing - and make sure that what they say stands up to reasonable examination.
It's no good saying afterwards that wasn't what they meant. It's entirely reasonable for the media to judge the club on what it said in the letter.
And to put that in context, the first thing I did on receiving a copy of the letter ten days ago was find out from the club if there was more to it - and on the basis I had been told there was we advised the individual to meet the club, with a witness (from CAST). And I did not put the letter out or publish it in VOTV. So in no way did we blow this up, even though we saw the potential.
National journalist covers the story briefly in his weekly column.
Quote from the Guardian piece In the meantime, what a shame that the “Agreed Behavioural Contract” does not work both ways, so Charlton’s supporters could monitor the conduct of the people running the club if needs be.
Already taken care of (see thread Letter and e-mail to Cliff Eager further down the board)
I said it a few days ago and after yesterday I feel even more confident to suggest that Eager knew exactly who the fan was. I fully believe cliff expected 'quentin' to crumble and come to the valley crying in order to obtain his season ticket. As it happens, Cliff, you're a fucking coward a bully.
I'm actually with @colthe3rd on this one. Bit of a storm in a tea cup. As said Charlton have always done this and there are a few on here who have had an 'interview' with Mick previously. Don't think any of them have not been allowed to return.
The letter is a bit bull in a China shop, but the guy is new and wanted to make a point that they consider his actions near the mark. The fact that no ABC was drawn up would support that.
I do think some people are a little bit paranoid about the Club taking action, but other than Cahones pouring over this and other forums a couple of pitch invasion bans and having a few telephone conversations with @C4FC4L1f3 I'm not aware of any other sanctions.
They even sold me our Bury tickets without any grief.
Normally in that meeting the person involved had done something far more worthy of a discussion, an abc for saying bad things on social media come on this is the biggest over reaction by the club and they chose who they delivered it too carefully, there are many who have typed worse and requested to do worse who they would not call in to this meeting as those people would not accept anyone talking to them about what can be said against these cnuts, it's an attempt to bully manipulate and drive home a message that will curtail those normally passive fans who are turning
And Sue parkes I have never said nothing about you before but you can fuck right off with your bullshit patronising ways,
The meeting was about foul and abusive language recorded inside the ground as well as the club's social media.
The guy admitted he was wrong and got his season ticket.
Personal abuse is not tolerated on any website.
But the letter wasn't - it says nothing about behaviour in the ground at all - and it's the letter which has seen the club ridiculed by virtually every mainstream news outlet.
It's quite ridiculous to pretend the club has acted sensibly and reasonably against such overwhelming criticism from neutral third parties.
But they did say it in the statement on the OS.
Let's also not pretend that any media outlet give a shit about what happens at the club. All of this makes good copy for them. Basically anything that gets retweeted a couple of thousand times can make national news.
This isn't to defend the club, I think they dealt with it poorly in regards to that letter, I just don't think you can point to what is in the news as to a justification of what you believe.
After the event. After they had been ridiculed by all and sundry. After they had been warned the letter was explosive.
Few of us would have an issue with the club calling in someone who had abused staff or misbehaved at matches, but they need to say that up front - or say nothing - and make sure that what they say stands up to reasonable examination.
It's no good saying afterwards that wasn't what they meant. It's entirely reasonable for the media to judge the club on what it said in the letter.
And to put that in context, the first thing I did on receiving a copy of the letter ten days ago was find out from the club if there was more to it - and on the basis I had been told there was we advised the individual to meet the club, with a witness (from CAST). And I did not put the letter out or publish it in VOTV. So in no way did we blow this up, even though we saw the potential.
I don't disagree with that and in no way did I infer that you or anyone else has used this as a way to hit the club either.
I don't bother with Facebook but you've summarised for me what seems so crass about Sue Parkes' behaviour. Her husband is well known as a decent man, who has served this club loyally going back to - well Selhurst if I recall rightly. In turn he knows many in the Charlton fanbase too, and I hope accepts that we too are decent people who have many times gone the extra mile for our club.
You have to assume that he knows what she writes on Facebook. I would like to know if he endorses her words and is happy to be on the other side of a barricade from fans whom he knows personally.
Unlikely. I'd assume he's highly fucking embarrassed by her.
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Few of us would have an issue with the club calling in someone who had abused staff or misbehaved at matches, but they need to say that up front - or say nothing - and make sure that what they say stands up to reasonable examination.
It's no good saying afterwards that wasn't what they meant. It's entirely reasonable for the media to judge the club on what it said in the letter.
And to put that in context, the first thing I did on receiving a copy of the letter ten days ago was find out from the club if there was more to it - and on the basis I had been told there was we advised the individual to meet the club, with a witness (from CAST). And I did not put the letter out or publish it in VOTV. So in no way did we blow this up, even though we saw the potential.
National journalist covers the story briefly in his weekly column.
In the meantime, what a shame that the “Agreed Behavioural Contract” does not work both ways, so Charlton’s supporters could monitor the conduct of the people running the club if needs be.
Already taken care of (see thread Letter and e-mail to Cliff Eager further down the board)
As it happens, Cliff, you're a fucking coward a bully.
No need to get so defensive here.
There is virtually nothing they can be defended on.