Says so much about the 'FA council', whatever they do. Imagine having a cerfified fuck-up such as her on the panel whilst trying to exert credibility as an organisation.
You have to laugh, really. I'm sure it's quota filling, but even so.
Positive action to redress a gender bias, and there are precious few women in football administration to choose from. It seems her gender outweighs her lack of football knowledge and ability.
"If you look at who's supporting, who's playing football, and then you look at the FA Council - it doesn't represent them," Dyke said.
"It's still overwhelmingly male, overwhelmingly white in a world that isn't overwhelmingly male and white, and somehow that has to be changed.
"We have to try and change it but we're not alone, supporters have got to try and change it as well."
I think we should take those last words as an invitation...
And he said exactly the same thing at the BBC when he was DG., about black and ethnicity quotas, I am sure Dyke is sincere in his belief that this 'social engineering' helps, and perhaps it does, but it does seem rather clumsy, and often misses the target.
Yes Black and ethnic diversity did go up at the BBC, but there were no heads of departments, and the public school quota, and Oxbridge did not change, only with the exception of a few individuals, the quotas were meet, in the cleaning and catering , and security sections. Where was the channel controllers, and head of studios, head of BBC 123, Radio 1234. Managed to have an American in charge of TV when I was there though. Still no female DG, and only recently a head of the governing board. Start at the top, or to use your own term you penned 'Cut the crap', and focus on ability to do the bloody job.
Positive action to redress a gender bias, and there are precious few women in football administration to choose from. It seems her gender outweighs her lack of football knowledge and ability.
"If you look at who's supporting, who's playing football, and then you look at the FA Council - it doesn't represent them," Dyke said.
"It's still overwhelmingly male, overwhelmingly white in a world that isn't overwhelmingly male and white, and somehow that has to be changed.
"We have to try and change it but we're not alone, supporters have got to try and change it as well."
I think we should take those last words as an invitation...
And he said exactly the same thing at the BBC when he was DG., about black and ethnicity quotas, I am sure Dyke is sincere in his belief that this 'social engineering' helps, and perhaps it does, but it does seem rather clumsy, and often misses the target.
Yes Black and ethnic diversity did go up at the BBC, but there were no heads of departments, and the public school quota, and Oxbridge did not change, only with the exception of a few individuals, the quotas were meet, in the cleaning and catering , and security sections. Where was the channel controllers, and head of studios, head of BBC 123, Radio 1234. Managed to have an American in charge of TV when I was there though. Still no female DG, and only recently a head of the governing board. Start at the top, or to use your own term you penned 'Cut the crap', and focus on ability to do the bloody job.
The BBC approach to equality is absolutely ridiculous by the looks of it from an outsider; I saw a job advert for them the other day that specifically ruled out white candidates. ("only open to [...] black, Asian or non-white ethnic minority")
Forcing square pegs in to round holes (skills wise, i.e recruiting on image/culture/race instead of skillset and talent) is never going to work, but it does look like Katrien ticks a few of the boxes the FA want at the moment. It's sad, because I think it pisses on those who genuinely do fight against adversity and do well based upon their actual ability. Alas, I fear that's an entirely different discussion - but something that is worth bearing in mind when trying to tackle this situation; Katrien has pulled the gender card before and no doubt will again.
I understand that Katrien Meire (CEO at Charlton Athletic) has been appointed onto the FA Council.
However, Katrien Meire is currently under investigation by the FA for a potential breach of rule E3 (see letter attached from the Charlton Athletic Supporters Trust - CAST).
Therefore, may I respectfully suggest that you suspend Katrien Meire from the FA Council until such time as the investigation into her rule breach has been completed and the decision relayed back to the complainant (CAST).
Please respond to this matter as soon as you are able.
I understand that Katrien Meire (CEO at Charlton Athletic) has been appointed onto the FA Council.
However, Katrien Meire is currently under investigation by the FA for a potential breach of rule E3 (see letter attached from the Charlton Athletic Supporters Trust - CAST).
Therefore, may I respectfully suggest that you suspend Katrien Meire from the FA Council until such time as the investigation into her rule breach has been completed and the decision relayed back to the complainant (CAST).
Please respond to this matter as soon as you are able.
I understand that Katrien Meire (CEO at Charlton Athletic) has been appointed onto the FA Council.
However, Katrien Meire is currently under investigation by the FA for a potential breach of rule E3 (see letter attached from the Charlton Athletic Supporters Trust - CAST).
Therefore, may I respectfully suggest that you suspend Katrien Meire from the FA Council until such time as the investigation into her rule breach has been completed and the decision relayed back to the complainant (CAST).
Please respond to this matter as soon as you are able.
She's under investigation by the FA? When did this happen?
We really do need to direct some of our attention towards the EFL too. It seems they have eight places on the FA Council - six are EFL board members, the other two elected by the 72 clubs. KM is one of the latter. As someone just said on Twitter, so did they look at CAFC as a role model and think, we'd like some of that?
Agreed. I wonder if the trust could ask the EFL and FA to investigate Duchatelet and how he moves money around the network? Or UEFA about who really owns Standard Liege and any third party ownership or stake in any players such as Batshuayi now at Chelsea.
The more I learn, the less I feel affinity to my club. How on earth has she got this (presumably influential ) post? Even if they are struggling to fill them.
Influential? Not with Barry Bright of Cobham, Kent on there!
I understand that Katrien Meire (CEO at Charlton Athletic) has been appointed onto the FA Council.
However, Katrien Meire is currently under investigation by the FA for a potential breach of rule E3 (see letter attached from the Charlton Athletic Supporters Trust - CAST).
Therefore, may I respectfully suggest that you suspend Katrien Meire from the FA Council until such time as the investigation into her rule breach has been completed and the decision relayed back to the complainant (CAST).
Please respond to this matter as soon as you are able.
She's under investigation by the FA? When did this happen?
Just my take on it - pure and simple - The FA received an official complaint (from Steve Clarke chair of CAST) about Katrien Meire and a potential rule breach (bringing the game into disrepute by inappropriate comments about Charlton fans equating them effectively with the worst examples of racist behaviour by Belgian fans).
Given that the FA have not yet responded to this official complaint in public then the matter is not resolved and Katrien Meire cannot expect to sit on the Council until it is (irrespective of all the other matters raised against her as being a fit and proper person to represent the FL on the FA Council some of which are voiced in the petition to David Gill to have her removed).
I understand that Katrien Meire (CEO at Charlton Athletic) has been appointed onto the FA Council.
However, Katrien Meire is currently under investigation by the FA for a potential breach of rule E3 (see letter attached from the Charlton Athletic Supporters Trust - CAST).
Therefore, may I respectfully suggest that you suspend Katrien Meire from the FA Council until such time as the investigation into her rule breach has been completed and the decision relayed back to the complainant (CAST).
Please respond to this matter as soon as you are able.
The head of the FA Council lives around the corner from my brother in Meopham.
Cobham, I believe?
Whoa! Hang on....................
To mix metaphors here - is there a can of worms brewing away crying out to be opened?
Barry Bright is chair of the FA Council which endorsed the appointment of Katrien Meire onto the Council 2 weeks ago. But, and this is a big but,.....he was also for many years Chair of the Disciplinary Committee which deals precisely with RuleE3 breaches (e.g. he chaired the Simon Jordon criticising referees hearing).
Even if he no longer does that role it is inconceivable that Barry Bright would not have known that there was a Rule E3 complaint against Katrien Meire which was raised in May this year I think it was.
So who is sitting on that complaint at the FA which has allowed Meire to be elected to the Council seemingly with no one outside the FA knowing that the complaint was unresolved and is still hanging over her.
I understand that Katrien Meire (CEO at Charlton Athletic) has been appointed onto the FA Council.
However, Katrien Meire is currently under investigation by the FA for a potential breach of rule E3 (see letter attached from the Charlton Athletic Supporters Trust - CAST).
Therefore, may I respectfully suggest that you suspend Katrien Meire from the FA Council until such time as the investigation into her rule breach has been completed and the decision relayed back to the complainant (CAST).
Please respond to this matter as soon as you are able.
She's under investigation by the FA? When did this happen?
Just my take on it - pure and simple - The FA received an official complaint (from Steve Clarke chair of CAST) about Katrien Meire and a potential rule breach (bringing the game into disrepute by inappropriate comments about Charlton fans equating them effectively with the worst examples of racist behaviour by Belgian fans).
Given that the FA have not yet responded to this official complaint in public then the matter is not resolved and Katrien Meire cannot expect to sit on the Council until it is (irrespective of all the other matters raised against her as being a fit and proper person to represent the FL on the FA Council some of which are voiced in the petition to David Gill to have her removed).
Right, so there is no investigation. And nor will there be. It's this kind of bullshit that undermines the legitimate cause of ridding us of Miere and her boss.
I understand that Katrien Meire (CEO at Charlton Athletic) has been appointed onto the FA Council.
However, Katrien Meire is currently under investigation by the FA for a potential breach of rule E3 (see letter attached from the Charlton Athletic Supporters Trust - CAST).
Therefore, may I respectfully suggest that you suspend Katrien Meire from the FA Council until such time as the investigation into her rule breach has been completed and the decision relayed back to the complainant (CAST).
Please respond to this matter as soon as you are able.
She's under investigation by the FA? When did this happen?
Just my take on it - pure and simple - The FA received an official complaint (from Steve Clarke chair of CAST) about Katrien Meire and a potential rule breach (bringing the game into disrepute by inappropriate comments about Charlton fans equating them effectively with the worst examples of racist behaviour by Belgian fans).
Given that the FA have not yet responded to this official complaint in public then the matter is not resolved and Katrien Meire cannot expect to sit on the Council until it is (irrespective of all the other matters raised against her as being a fit and proper person to represent the FL on the FA Council some of which are voiced in the petition to David Gill to have her removed).
Right, so there is no investigation. And nor will there be. It's this kind of bullshit that undermines the legitimate cause of ridding us of Miere and her boss.
ok, I will still hold on to the fact that until the FA have provided a response to the legitimate complaint raised by CAST then the construction must be that the complaint is still being investigated.
If it isn't and the FA have not produced a response but have simply ignored the complaint then as an accountable body their position is not acceptable and the original complainants are entitled to receive a formal response (and I gather that CAST are renewing that request).
I fail to see how this interpretation of today's announcement undermines the legitimate cause etc. etc.
What is clearly attempted here is to bring to the attention of the FA the fact that Meire has been elected onto the FA Council (which is a feather in her cap and kudos for her) whilst at the same time there is a genuine (indeed legitimate) complaint raised against her in the same building which has not been addressed.
How this is construed as bullshit is beyond me. The pressure needs to be kept on the FA to make a statement and if they haven't investigated the complaint - why not?
I understand that Katrien Meire (CEO at Charlton Athletic) has been appointed onto the FA Council.
However, Katrien Meire is currently under investigation by the FA for a potential breach of rule E3 (see letter attached from the Charlton Athletic Supporters Trust - CAST).
Therefore, may I respectfully suggest that you suspend Katrien Meire from the FA Council until such time as the investigation into her rule breach has been completed and the decision relayed back to the complainant (CAST).
Please respond to this matter as soon as you are able.
She's under investigation by the FA? When did this happen?
Just my take on it - pure and simple - The FA received an official complaint (from Steve Clarke chair of CAST) about Katrien Meire and a potential rule breach (bringing the game into disrepute by inappropriate comments about Charlton fans equating them effectively with the worst examples of racist behaviour by Belgian fans).
Given that the FA have not yet responded to this official complaint in public then the matter is not resolved and Katrien Meire cannot expect to sit on the Council until it is (irrespective of all the other matters raised against her as being a fit and proper person to represent the FL on the FA Council some of which are voiced in the petition to David Gill to have her removed).
Right, so there is no investigation. And nor will there be. It's this kind of bullshit that undermines the legitimate cause of ridding us of Miere and her boss.
ok, I will still hold on to the fact that until the FA have provided a response to the legitimate complaint raised by CAST then the construction must be that the complaint is still being investigated.
If it isn't and the FA have not produced a response but have simply ignored the complaint then as an accountable body their position is not acceptable and the original complainants are entitled to receive a formal response (and I gather that CAST are renewing that request).
I fail to see how this interpretation of today's announcement undermines the legitimate cause etc. etc.
What is clearly attempted here is to bring to the attention of the FA the fact that Meire has been elected onto the FA Council (which is a feather in her cap and kudos for her) whilst at the same time there is a genuine (indeed legitimate) complaint raised against her in the same building which has not been addressed.
How this is construed as bullshit is beyond me. The pressure needs to be kept on the FA to make a statement and if they haven't investigated the complaint - why not?
'There is a genuine (indeed legitimate) complaint...'
No, there isn't, which is the reason it has been roundly ignored by the FA The best you could come up with was 'equated to' regarding her branding Charlton fans racist. Go and read the transcript again, properly this time You people pursuing this bootless errand serve only to compound Meire's self-righteous victimhood and garnering her sympathy from the very people we're trying to influence into the bargain. Even Varney swallowed when it came to his threats of legal action which only served to make him appear slightly foolish. Much like too many people on here. This flogging of a dead horse is as crass and petty as that camel - costume fiasco.
The FA cannot simply ignore a complaint which has been put to them formally by an organisation which is football and community related (as CAST is).
It's a shame that you are getting so exercised over this but in many ways it demonstrates the depth of the harm done by the regime that you feel so strongly that you would advocate fellow fans not pursuing an avenue which is intended to try to expose Meire and indeed suggest that it is something which actively will assist her. I cannot follow the logic but I must respect your depth of feeling - again - sad times that it has come to this.
Is the refusal to have meaningful engagement with a democratically elected supporters body (CAST), not a route to explore as to why she is unsuited to representing EFL?
If the FA don't budge now might be a good time to go over their heads and approach Kick It Out to ask them what they think about someone like Katrien Meire taking a place on the Football League panel.
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You have to laugh, really. I'm sure it's quota filling, but even so.
http://www.fleetwoodtownfc.com/news/article/2016-17/fa-council-steve-curwood-fleetwood-town-ceo-3188642.aspx
http://www.scunthorpe-united.co.uk/news/article/rodwell-confirmed-as-chief-executive-officer-2342344.aspx
With us, nothing. They want to hide it away and hope that none of us realise that she's sucking
offup to the FA behind our backs.Forcing square pegs in to round holes (skills wise, i.e recruiting on image/culture/race instead of skillset and talent) is never going to work, but it does look like Katrien ticks a few of the boxes the FA want at the moment. It's sad, because I think it pisses on those who genuinely do fight against adversity and do well based upon their actual ability. Alas, I fear that's an entirely different discussion - but something that is worth bearing in mind when trying to tackle this situation; Katrien has pulled the gender card before and no doubt will again.
Dear Barry Bright and the FA Council,
I understand that Katrien Meire (CEO at Charlton Athletic) has been appointed onto the FA Council.
However, Katrien Meire is currently under investigation by the FA for a potential breach of rule E3 (see letter attached from the Charlton Athletic Supporters Trust - CAST).
Therefore, may I respectfully suggest that you suspend Katrien Meire from the FA Council until such time as the investigation into her rule breach has been completed and the decision relayed back to the complainant (CAST).
Please respond to this matter as soon as you are able.
When did this happen?
The FA received an official complaint (from Steve Clarke chair of CAST) about Katrien Meire and a potential rule breach (bringing the game into disrepute by inappropriate comments about Charlton fans equating them effectively with the worst examples of racist behaviour by Belgian fans).
Given that the FA have not yet responded to this official complaint in public then the matter is not resolved and Katrien Meire cannot expect to sit on the Council until it is (irrespective of all the other matters raised against her as being a fit and proper person to represent the FL on the FA Council some of which are voiced in the petition to David Gill to have her removed).
To mix metaphors here - is there a can of worms brewing away crying out to be opened?
Barry Bright is chair of the FA Council which endorsed the appointment of Katrien Meire onto the Council 2 weeks ago.
But, and this is a big but,.....he was also for many years Chair of the Disciplinary Committee which deals precisely with RuleE3 breaches (e.g. he chaired the Simon Jordon criticising referees hearing).
Even if he no longer does that role it is inconceivable that Barry Bright would not have known that there was a Rule E3 complaint against Katrien Meire which was raised in May this year I think it was.
So who is sitting on that complaint at the FA which has allowed Meire to be elected to the Council seemingly with no one outside the FA knowing that the complaint was unresolved and is still hanging over her.
Anyone know a good investigative journalist?
It's this kind of bullshit that undermines the legitimate cause of ridding us of Miere and her boss.
If it isn't and the FA have not produced a response but have simply ignored the complaint then as an accountable body their position is not acceptable and the original complainants are entitled to receive a formal response (and I gather that CAST are renewing that request).
I fail to see how this interpretation of today's announcement undermines the legitimate cause etc. etc.
What is clearly attempted here is to bring to the attention of the FA the fact that Meire has been elected onto the FA Council (which is a feather in her cap and kudos for her) whilst at the same time there is a genuine (indeed legitimate) complaint raised against her in the same building which has not been addressed.
How this is construed as bullshit is beyond me. The pressure needs to be kept on the FA to make a statement and if they haven't investigated the complaint - why not?
No, there isn't, which is the reason it has been roundly ignored by the FA
The best you could come up with was 'equated to' regarding her branding Charlton fans racist.
Go and read the transcript again, properly this time
You people pursuing this bootless errand serve only to compound Meire's self-righteous victimhood and garnering her sympathy from the very people we're trying to influence into the bargain.
Even Varney swallowed when it came to his threats of legal action which only served to make him appear slightly foolish. Much like too many people on here.
This flogging of a dead horse is as crass and petty as that camel - costume fiasco.
The FA cannot simply ignore a complaint which has been put to them formally by an organisation which is football and community related (as CAST is).
It's a shame that you are getting so exercised over this but in many ways it demonstrates the depth of the harm done by the regime that you feel so strongly that you would advocate fellow fans not pursuing an avenue which is intended to try to expose Meire and indeed suggest that it is something which actively will assist her. I cannot follow the logic but I must respect your depth of feeling - again - sad times that it has come to this.