surely peter varney will step aside and forgo his cut for the good of Charlton?
When you next speak/text Richard can you tell him that it is becoming very obvious who your source is although Richard reads Charlton Life anyway so he's most likely worked that out for himself.
surely peter varney will step aside and forgo his cut for the good of Charlton?
That is pure Murray.
I have no idea about any feud between murray and varney other than what has been said on here but it is logical isn't it? if that is the block, remove yourself from it? or do you really think RD would not sell because of it?? really????
agreed - so why does richard murray get so much stick on here? If we dismiss the blocking varney stuff thenwhy does everybody think he should have resigned is position rather than trying to influence from within?? Can it not just be that he is telling the truth?
Why does he have so little support from the people who once sat on the board with him, do you think?
we know all that Henry but if you've been trying for 6 months and the intermediary 'seems to be' the problem, why don't they try a different approach????
As an intermediary, Peter Varney has many advantages. Namely:
(a) He's a very good name to have involved in the deal, because he has a lot of goodwill and trust from the fanbase; (b) He possesses an intimate knowledge of the club; this is knowledge that would prove vital during negotiations and due diligence; (c) He still has a network around the club, and the right contacts would be vital post-sale.. as well as during negotiations should the existing owners not want to play ball... *ahem*. (One could argue the release of the emails and the subsequent energy behind the protests is a good example of this.)
Furthermore, if they're telling your intermediary that "The club is not for sale" - would you really change intermediaries until you get the answer you want? I don't think so.
we know all that Henry but if you've been trying for 6 months and the intermediary 'seems to be' the problem, why don't they try a different approach????
As an intermediary, Peter Varney has many advantages. Namely:
(a) He's a very good name to have involved in the deal, because he has a lot of goodwill and trust from the fanbase; (b) He possesses an intimate knowledge of the club; this is knowledge that would prove vital during negotiations and due diligence; (c) He still has a network around the club, and the right contacts would be vital post-sale.. as well as during negotiations should the existing owners not want to play ball... *ahem*. (One could argue the release of the emails and the subsequent energy behind the protests is a good example of this.)
Furthermore, if they're telling your intermediary that "The club is not for sale" - would you really change intermediaries until you get the answer you want? I don't think so.
agreed - so why does richard murray get so much stick on here?
Apart from repeatedly apologising (and lying) for the filth that now own Charlton, it could also be something to do with nearly every decision he's made (and everything that's come out of his mouth) since 2006.
He's the person responsible for taking us from a well-run Premier League club to the laughing stock we are now.
agreed - so why does richard murray get so much stick on here?
Apart from repeatedly apologising (and lying) for the filth that now own Charlton, it could also be something to do with nearly every decision he's made (and everything that's come out of his mouth) since 2006.
He's the person responsible for taking us from a well-run Premier League club to the laughing stock we are now.
'Influence from within'! Do me a favour!!
So never mind Agent Dowie, in true Scooby Doo fashion it was that Agent Murray all along and he would have gotten away with it were it not for that pesky Varney
Would have more (admittedly not much to date although recent developments have changed that) influence than standing in the car park with a megaphone saying clear off. Not saying that wasn't needed either and re why the directors don't like him - I don't know - coz they lost their money?? tell us airman
Varney is in touch with RD direct according to him. RD is the man with the money in. Any feud between Varney and RM is irrelevant as is KMs desire not to be sacked. If RD got the offer he wanted he would sell and not give two hoots who the purchaser was. Trouble is, he won't get that offer as we are worthless in League 3.
if they are that interested, why don't they make themselves known? hiding behind varney? if varney's a problem for whatever reason why don't they speak direct to rd like varney now has? None of us liked the spivs once the money was pulled and none of us like the douchatalet thing but how do we know we'll like the next lot? Put up a manifesto I say. whats happened to the email exchange being published?
As regards "the next lot", we'll all have to take our chances as none of us will know.
As sure as hell they cannot be as bad as the Belgians. Of course there will be people of the opinion "better the devil you know'.
agreed - so why does richard murray get so much stick on here? If we dismiss the blocking varney stuff thenwhy does everybody think he should have resigned is position rather than trying to influence from within?? Can it not just be that he is telling the truth?
agreed - so why does richard murray get so much stick on here? If we dismiss the blocking varney stuff thenwhy does everybody think he should have resigned is position rather than trying to influence from within?? Can it not just be that he is telling the truth?
My exchange with Murray before the Forest game.
"These people have undone everything you have done here"
Murray came back with "YES I KNOW, but unless you have 50 million pounds".
Would have more (admittedly not much to date although recent developments have changed that) influence than standing in the car park with a megaphone saying clear off. Not saying that wasn't needed either and re why the directors don't like him - I don't know - coz they lost their money?? tell us airman
At least the geezer with the megaphone has the interests of the club at heart.
You are getting quite tedious and sounding as if you are a mate within the w****** who are destroying Charlton Athletic.
KM says something she probably wishes she hadn't but it changes nothing. RD for now doesn't want to sell albeit like everyone no doubt he would if the right offer were made.
What we may have learnt but wasn't previously shared to us (I don't think in VOTV or elsewhere) is that PV and RD have had some limited contact. That is an improvement on where we were some months back and presumably why some see a glimmer of hope that a sale may emerge in the future.
For now I think the protests and media campaign have had the desired effect and forced RD and KM more into the open and let's just hope player recruitment of the right type also follows very soon.
The change in ownership seems a longer term thing to me. I'm more interested in the short term football only aspect right now as tangible evidence that we can trust RD to repair the damage. Of course that's not to say we shouldn't critically examine the off field stuff but picking over the bones of another misplaced comment isn't going to move us forward. We have to accept that KM is learning this job and that someone behind the scenes needs to help and ensure he infrastructure doesn't fall apart as a consequence.
KM says something she probably wishes she hadn't but it changes nothing. RD for now doesn't want to sell albeit like everyone no doubt he would if the right offer were made.
What we may have learnt but wasn't previously shared to us (I don't think in VOTV or elsewhere) is that PV and RD have had some limited contact. That is an improvement on where we were some months back and presumably why some see a glimmer of hope that a sale may emerge in the future.
For now I think the protests and media campaign have had the desired effect and forced RD and KM more into the open and let's just hope player recruitment of the right type also follows very soon.
The change in ownership seems a longer term thing to me. I'm more interested in the short term football only aspect right now as tangible evidence that we can trust RD to repair the damage. Of course that's not to say we shouldn't critically examine the off field stuff but picking over the bones of another misplaced comment isn't going to move us forward. We have to accept that KM is learning this job and that someone behind the scenes needs to help and ensure he infrastructure doesn't fall apart as a consequence.
Or, as an alternative view...
...we seize on and highlight every mistake that Meire makes. Ensure that Charlton fans and the wider football world see her for the incompetent, lying fool she is. Pile the pressure on. Bring ridicule upon her. Embarrass her. Force her into making more mistakes. Try to break her so we rid ourselves of this most appalling imaginable apology for a CEO, and hope that this helps to hasten the end of the rest of the regime - Keohane, Murray and of course Duchatelet.
KM says something she probably wishes she hadn't but it changes nothing. RD for now doesn't want to sell albeit like everyone no doubt he would if the right offer were made.
What we may have learnt but wasn't previously shared to us (I don't think in VOTV or elsewhere) is that PV and RD have had some limited contact. That is an improvement on where we were some months back and presumably why some see a glimmer of hope that a sale may emerge in the future.
For now I think the protests and media campaign have had the desired effect and forced RD and KM more into the open and let's just hope player recruitment of the right type also follows very soon.
The change in ownership seems a longer term thing to me. I'm more interested in the short term football only aspect right now as tangible evidence that we can trust RD to repair the damage. Of course that's not to say we shouldn't critically examine the off field stuff but picking over the bones of another misplaced comment isn't going to move us forward. We have to accept that KM is learning this job and that someone behind the scenes needs to help and ensure he infrastructure doesn't fall apart as a consequence.
Or, as an alternative view...
...we seize on and highlight every mistake that Meire makes. Ensure that Charlton fans and the wider football world see her for the incompetent, lying fool she is. Pile the pressure on. Bring ridicule upon her. Embarrass her. Force her into making more mistakes. Try to break her so we rid ourselves of this most appalling imaginable apology for a CEO, and hope that this helps to hasten the end of the rest of the regime - Keohane, Murray and of course Duchatelet.
To be replaced by another RD employee is a risk I guess also.
What I'm trying to say is that we have enjoyed success with the protests and I'd like to see what happens now on the football side.
The point is well made on KM gaffs (and which I mostly am in agreement are a problem). Another string of comments here on the numerous threads which all ultimately come back to the same theme isn't worth getting vexed about.
I take it you are undecided on the Belgians. **ValleyNick66**
Yes that is true.
Don't appreciate at all their attitude til now on the football side and want to believe they are going to finally change their ways on this. But equally I don't buy that RD has an ulterior motive that sees the club deliberately undermined as mostly investors lose money on football clubs particularly outside the Premier League.
I take it you are undecided on the Belgians. **ValleyNick66**
Yes that is true.
Don't appreciate at all their attitude til now on the football side and want to believe they are going to finally change their ways on this. But equally I don't buy that RD has an ulterior motive that sees the club deliberately undermined as mostly investors lose money on football clubs particularly outside the Premier League.
I think his motives are based around having this FFP beating network idea in his head, and trying to prove it works in reality.
What would be a huge sign that he is changing his ways is if we start buying players from other League 1 sides, as he has previous said that he does not believe in giving money to teams in the same division as networked clubs because only makes potential divisional rivals financially stronger whilst weakening his club's finances
What has surprised me is that she hasn't buckled. She must have had a pretty shit 12 months. I don't know what keeps her at it.m Ridiculed inside and outside the club, in the national press, a laughing stock in the football industry.
Does she feel she has to carry on because she thinks she can succeed and prove everyone wrong?
There are no signs I have seen that suggests she can turn it around, she seems to just keep making it worse.
KM says something she probably wishes she hadn't but it changes nothing. RD for now doesn't want to sell albeit like everyone no doubt he would if the right offer were made.
What we may have learnt but wasn't previously shared to us (I don't think in VOTV or elsewhere) is that PV and RD have had some limited contact. That is an improvement on where we were some months back and presumably why some see a glimmer of hope that a sale may emerge in the future.
For now I think the protests and media campaign have had the desired effect and forced RD and KM more into the open and let's just hope player recruitment of the right type also follows very soon.
The change in ownership seems a longer term thing to me. I'm more interested in the short term football only aspect right now as tangible evidence that we can trust RD to repair the damage. Of course that's not to say we shouldn't critically examine the off field stuff but picking over the bones of another misplaced comment isn't going to move us forward. We have to accept that KM is learning this job and that someone behind the scenes needs to help and ensure he infrastructure doesn't fall apart as a consequence.
Or, as an alternative view...
...we seize on and highlight every mistake that Meire makes. Ensure that Charlton fans and the wider football world see her for the incompetent, lying fool she is. Pile the pressure on. Bring ridicule upon her. Embarrass her. Force her into making more mistakes. Try to break her so we rid ourselves of this most appalling imaginable apology for a CEO, and hope that this helps to hasten the end of the rest of the regimimistice - Keohane, Murray and of course Duchatelet.
Other than that all is tickety boo in SE7!
Why does SeriouslyRed/Stupid/Optimistic/af******idiot not post on here nowadays?
I take it you are undecided on the Belgians. **ValleyNick66**
Yes that is true.
Don't appreciate at all their attitude til now on the football side and want to believe they are going to finally change their ways on this. But equally I don't buy that RD has an ulterior motive that sees the club deliberately undermined as mostly investors lose money on football clubs particularly outside the Premier League.
Outside of a keyboard you are probably a decent dude.
What has surprised me is that she hasn't buckled. She must have had a pretty shit 12 months. I don't know what keeps her at it.m Ridiculed inside and outside the club, in the national press, a laughing stock in the football industry.
Does she feel she has to carry on because she thinks she can succeed and prove everyone wrong?
There are no signs I have seen that suggests she can turn it around, she seems to just keep making it worse.
Her body language at the Slade appointment shows she is on the floor.
THOUSANDS of fans screaming Liar at the Burnley game must have been humiliating beyond imagineable.
Roland duchetelet should not own football clubs, he doesn't understand and Only he and God understand what on earth he thinks he's doing now his grand plan of the network has broken so badly. Unless he hasn't realised it was flawed from the start and has since broken.
The KM and RD combo is terrible. KM does not have the basic skills required to do even a half arsed job in one of the most important roles in the club.
Charlton are now a pariah of a club for managers, staff and players. A bad joke.
Slade and Head could stand a chance if They can outflank Katrien but make no mistake, any progress will be because the Belgians approving someone else's work rather than doing any themselves.
KM says something she probably wishes she hadn't but it changes nothing. RD for now doesn't want to sell albeit like everyone no doubt he would if the right offer were made.
What we may have learnt but wasn't previously shared to us (I don't think in VOTV or elsewhere) is that PV and RD have had some limited contact. That is an improvement on where we were some months back and presumably why some see a glimmer of hope that a sale may emerge in the future.
For now I think the protests and media campaign have had the desired effect and forced RD and KM more into the open and let's just hope player recruitment of the right type also follows very soon.
The change in ownership seems a longer term thing to me. I'm more interested in the short term football only aspect right now as tangible evidence that we can trust RD to repair the damage. Of course that's not to say we shouldn't critically examine the off field stuff but picking over the bones of another misplaced comment isn't going to move us forward. We have to accept that KM is learning this job and that someone behind the scenes needs to help and ensure he infrastructure doesn't fall apart as a consequence.
Or, as an alternative view...
...we seize on and highlight every mistake that Meire makes. Ensure that Charlton fans and the wider football world see her for the incompetent, lying fool she is. Pile the pressure on. Bring ridicule upon her. Embarrass her. Force her into making more mistakes. Try to break her so we rid ourselves of this most appalling imaginable apology for a CEO, and hope that this helps to hasten the end of the rest of the regimimistice - Keohane, Murray and of course Duchatelet.
Other than that all is tickety boo in SE7!
Why does SeriouslyRed/Stupid/Optimistic/af******idiot not post on here nowadays?
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(a) He's a very good name to have involved in the deal, because he has a lot of goodwill and trust from the fanbase;
(b) He possesses an intimate knowledge of the club; this is knowledge that would prove vital during negotiations and due diligence;
(c) He still has a network around the club, and the right contacts would be vital post-sale.. as well as during negotiations should the existing owners not want to play ball... *ahem*. (One could argue the release of the emails and the subsequent energy behind the protests is a good example of this.)
Furthermore, if they're telling your intermediary that "The club is not for sale" - would you really change intermediaries until you get the answer you want? I don't think so.
He's the person responsible for taking us from a well-run Premier League club to the laughing stock we are now.
'Influence from within'! Do me a favour!!
Please inbox me as I would like to buy you a drink.
As sure as hell they cannot be as bad as the Belgians. Of course there will be people of the opinion "better the devil you know'.
"These people have undone everything you have done here"
Murray came back with "YES I KNOW, but unless you have 50 million pounds".
You are getting quite tedious and sounding as if you are a mate within the w****** who are destroying Charlton Athletic.
KM says something she probably wishes she hadn't but it changes nothing. RD for now doesn't want to sell albeit like everyone no doubt he would if the right offer were made.
What we may have learnt but wasn't previously shared to us (I don't think in VOTV or elsewhere) is that PV and RD have had some limited contact. That is an improvement on where we were some months back and presumably why some see a glimmer of hope that a sale may emerge in the future.
For now I think the protests and media campaign have had the desired effect and forced RD and KM more into the open and let's just hope player recruitment of the right type also follows very soon.
The change in ownership seems a longer term thing to me. I'm more interested in the short term football only aspect right now as tangible evidence that we can trust RD to repair the damage. Of course that's not to say we shouldn't critically examine the off field stuff but picking over the bones of another misplaced comment isn't going to move us forward. We have to accept that KM is learning this job and that someone behind the scenes needs to help and ensure he infrastructure doesn't fall apart as a consequence.
**ValleyNick66**
...we seize on and highlight every mistake that Meire makes. Ensure that Charlton fans and the wider football world see her for the incompetent, lying fool she is. Pile the pressure on. Bring ridicule upon her. Embarrass her. Force her into making more mistakes. Try to break her so we rid ourselves of this most appalling imaginable apology for a CEO, and hope that this helps to hasten the end of the rest of the regime - Keohane, Murray and of course Duchatelet.
What I'm trying to say is that we have enjoyed success with the protests and I'd like to see what happens now on the football side.
The point is well made on KM gaffs (and which I mostly am in agreement are a problem). Another string of comments here on the numerous threads which all ultimately come back to the same theme isn't worth getting vexed about.
Don't appreciate at all their attitude til now on the football side and want to believe they are going to finally change their ways on this. But equally I don't buy that RD has an ulterior motive that sees the club deliberately undermined as mostly investors lose money on football clubs particularly outside the Premier League.
What would be a huge sign that he is changing his ways is if we start buying players from other League 1 sides, as he has previous said that he does not believe in giving money to teams in the same division as networked clubs because only makes potential divisional rivals financially stronger whilst weakening his club's finances
(it's on the CAST site)
What has surprised me is that she hasn't buckled. She must have had a pretty shit 12 months. I don't know what keeps her at it.m
Ridiculed inside and outside the club, in the national press, a laughing stock in the football industry.
Does she feel she has to carry on because she thinks she can succeed and prove everyone wrong?
There are no signs I have seen that suggests she can turn it around, she seems to just keep making it worse.
Why does SeriouslyRed/Stupid/Optimistic/af******idiot not post on here nowadays?
What you have posted suggests you are clueless.
THOUSANDS of fans screaming Liar at the Burnley game must have been humiliating beyond imagineable.
F*** her!
The KM and RD combo is terrible. KM does not have the basic skills required to do even a half arsed job in one of the most important roles in the club.
Charlton are now a pariah of a club for managers, staff and players. A bad joke.
Slade and Head could stand a chance if They can outflank Katrien but make no mistake, any progress will be because the Belgians approving someone else's work rather than doing any themselves.