I love the Valley like anyone else, and have been going down there for 40 years. But a move to Greenwich peninsula (Morden wharf) with a modern 30/35k stadium like Brighton's with bars and restaurants etc access from North Greenwich underground and by the river may be a positive thing.
Morden Wharf is a fair old schlep from North Greenwich, the equivalent of walking from The Valley to the Odeon at Greenwich. It's also a shocker to get to by public transport from Kent (or just about anywhere else that isn't on the Jubilee Line) which means more fans will drive there, so you'll need to waste valuable space on a massive car park. The current A102/A2 can't cope with the southbound rush hour as it is, so it'll be a bugger to get away from after a match. The only plans to link that side of the peninsula to the other side of the Thames are commercial ferry services to/from Peninsula Quays (just west of the O2), which cuts the potential for access from over there. Furthermore, you're not going to get bars and restaurants to set up there when you're in the shadow of the far-better connected O2 and the bars and restaurants around there.
It is an insane, stupid, unsustainable idea, like something out of the worst 80s/90s planning.
The Valley's not perfect, but it sits on a direct rail line to Kent (there are better services mooted once the London Bridge and Crossrail works are finished, which are what's buggering up weekend trains) and buses to North Greenwich and all over. There are local businesses around the place which depend on it - it's no coincidence the Bugle Horn is using the AFC Wimbledon match for its relaunch - and away fans like it too. And it's home.
Now IF our lot had any sense... (I know I know) they would realise that there will be a building boom locally (Brexit or no) and that there will be a lot of new punters about in the next decade.
I think the only ground move I'd be remotely keen on would be to a site north of Woolwich Road - closer to Siemen's Meadows, where proper transport links could be built in. It's also still in Charlton. But there's likely to be a huge amount of growth in the Charlton area in the coming decades - it's simpler to stay put, frankly.
The whole area from Anchor and Hope lane to the new 24 hour McDonalds is prime regeneration land, and could easily hold a new stadium, car parking, shuttle buses to and from various nearby stations and even the potential building of an extension to the DLR from WA along the riverside back to North Greenwich
The whole area from Anchor and Hope lane to the new 24 hour McDonalds is prime regeneration land, and could easily hold a new stadium, car parking, shuttle buses to and from various nearby stations and even the potential building of an extension to the DLR from WA along the riverside back to North Greenwich
Doubt you'll get a DLR - but there were pipedreams in the early 2000s of a tram running from Woolwich to North Greenwich along the riverfront. It was whittled down to a bus on special roads (but like the Fastrack in Dartford) before being canned. Greenwich Council is agitating for that to be revived.
All that land's likely to be more much more valuable as housing, though, and that's what will bring the transport links.
Completely pointless. Tv money means you don't have to rely on tickets and even in our peak years we very rarely sold out games
We effectively sold out most games in the prem apart from the odd seat here and there.The segregation aspect in the Jimmy Seed stand brought the average down.
As usual, all the parochial negative comments that i have (now) come to expect from Charlton fans who clearly have no wish to discover the future. Oh well, welcome to the past.
Mate I've had similar debates with you over T20 Franchise cricket. Maybe some people just see a different future than you? Pretty sure everyone here wants the best for the club buy just see that happening in different ways.
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It is an insane, stupid, unsustainable idea, like something out of the worst 80s/90s planning.
The Valley's not perfect, but it sits on a direct rail line to Kent (there are better services mooted once the London Bridge and Crossrail works are finished, which are what's buggering up weekend trains) and buses to North Greenwich and all over. There are local businesses around the place which depend on it - it's no coincidence the Bugle Horn is using the AFC Wimbledon match for its relaunch - and away fans like it too. And it's home.
Meanwhile... I think the only ground move I'd be remotely keen on would be to a site north of Woolwich Road - closer to Siemen's Meadows, where proper transport links could be built in. It's also still in Charlton. But there's likely to be a huge amount of growth in the Charlton area in the coming decades - it's simpler to stay put, frankly.
All that land's likely to be more much more valuable as housing, though, and that's what will bring the transport links.