Norhampton fans unanimously 'gutted' by his departure and concerned that he might cherry-pick his old club. Who have they thats any good?
Had a quick look at their squad earlier. They have a bloke called Ricky Holmes who is meant to be pretty good. There a couple there that followed him from Oxford as well
Doesn't seem the type to take any messing about from RD/KM. talks about the drawn out takeover of NTFC. Well worth a listen. Also pronounces 'attitude' a bit funny. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hisGrNSfqek
And what reassurances will Wilder get that Riga clearly didn't?
You've got to believe /hope that between them Wilder & Knill - both of whom have been around the block a few times - would have had this thought, too. Which means IF they sign RD has given them a satisfactory answer. And of course they'll walk if RD reneges on whatever he has said...
Tricky one this. Given where we are headed I reckon this is just about the perfect appointment. BUT ... whatever assurances you may have received, would you relish working alongside a megalomaniac, a gross incompetent with a gift for untruths, a supine apologist for the above two and Tony? And whilst a percentage of the 2% will surely be pacified by this appointment, there will still be plenty of toxicity surrounding the club next season. Can't help thinking something here just doesn't add up. But for sure any other club looking for a new manager will now be well aware that Sir Chris is up for a move.
Doesn't seem the type to take any messing about from RD/KM. talks about the drawn out takeover of NTFC. Well worth a listen. Also pronounces 'attitude' a bit funny. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hisGrNSfqek
After watching that I'm amazed he is even entertaining the idea of working for the Belgians. They have either told him some real whoppers or he's going to be earning a few bob.
Doesn't seem the type to take any messing about from RD/KM. talks about the drawn out takeover of NTFC. Well worth a listen. Also pronounces 'attitude' a bit funny. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hisGrNSfqek
Doesn't seem the type to take any messing about from RD/KM. talks about the drawn out takeover of NTFC. Well worth a listen. Also pronounces 'attitude' a bit funny. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hisGrNSfqek
He sounds like exactly the sort of manager we need. And probably have needed for a few years. Perhaps the nutters in charge are finally realising they should sign the cheques and do very little else. Or maybe not. Who knows.
Tricky one this. Given where we are headed I reckon this is just about the perfect appointment. BUT ... whatever assurances you may have received, would you relish working alongside a megalomaniac, a gross incompetent with a gift for untruths, a supine apologist for the above two and Tony? And whilst a percentage of the 2% will surely be pacified by this appointment, there will still be plenty of toxicity surrounding the club next season. Can't help thinking something here just doesn't add up. But for sure any other club looking for a new manager will now be well aware that Sir Chris is up for a move.
This! Would be surprised (aka I hope) if Bolton come in for him again! They now know his get out clause and that he is open to move , considering they have a new owner and a more prosperous near future - why would you pick us over them!
Tricky one this. Given where we are headed I reckon this is just about the perfect appointment. BUT ... whatever assurances you may have received, would you relish working alongside a megalomaniac, a gross incompetent with a gift for untruths, a supine apologist for the above two and Tony? And whilst a percentage of the 2% will surely be pacified by this appointment, there will still be plenty of toxicity surrounding the club next season. Can't help thinking something here just doesn't add up. But for sure any other club looking for a new manager will now be well aware that Sir Chris is up for a move.
This! Would be surprised (aka I hope) if Bolton come in for him again! They now know his get out clause and that he is open to move , considering they have a new owner and a more prosperous near future - why would you pick us over them!
Wilder and Knill can't lose. They have a good track record at the lower levels and could comfortably find another club at league 1 or 2 level should things go wrong at Cafc. Most of football knows Duchatelet is a crackpot and this gives most managers a free pass (with other clubs) and a nice earner should Duchatelet revert to his meddlesome ways.
Wilder and Knoll can't lose. They have a good track record at the lower levels and could comfortably find another club at league 1 or 2 level should things go wrong at Cafc. Most of football knows Duchatelet is a crackpot and this gives most managers a free pass (with other clubs) and a nice earner should Duchatelet revert to his meddlesome ways.
If Wilder is given full control then I think we should cut the board some slack
Unbelievable.
I know a lot of people protest because "they want their Charlton back" (whatever that means), but I've always been against the regime for specified reasons. those being:
-The board will not appoint a competitive manager -The board will not give the manager control over signings -The board refuses to sign experienced Football league players -The board won't give managers more than 6 months
If the board then did a total U-turn and gave me everything that I wanted, It would be hypocritical of me not to give them a chance.
Those are the small bullet points of the real problem though that people seem to be dismissing.
The man does not want us to be a successful Football Club, desire is key and he has none. That would already be apparent if he did, what is apparent is he is deluded - I would not want him in even if he drives us back into the Championship and back into a 'secure' position, as we were shortly before he took over.
I'm not sure that's correct. His methods may be bonkers, but I'm convinced that HE genuinely believes that they are correct, and that they would have made Charlton relatively successful.
That is in many ways the tragedy of the situation, spending so much and ending up with Naby Sarr
Nope. He does not want to make Charlton relatively successful, he wants to make money. Those two won't go hand in hand, unless of course you rise up to the PL but that's just a ridiculous thought under this ownership. He is in it for business but, as you say, his methods may be bonkers, he is not aiming for a successful Charlton - just to successfully run a profitable/break-even Football Club with bonuses to kick (such as owning land)
What are we basing that on? He has pumped 38m into the club already, and if KM is to be believed he is putting another million/month in in loans (KM is not to be believes, but I think it was Jiminez who said something similar).
If he just wanted money he could easily have sold Lookman and JBG in January. He could have signed a couple lower league journeymen, okay, a couple more lower league journeymen, instead of internationals Fanni and Motta. He could be looking to sell The Valley.
If he were trying to suck money out of this club, there are a lot of different tactics he'd be using. I mean we've not even heard talk of the ambition of getting to the Premier League, where the money really is. I know it's easy to paint him as the villain here to asset strip the club, but I don't see the proof to back that up, and furthermore, we just don't have many monetary assets to strip.
No. Roughly half of that (June 2015 figure) is the money that Jimenez/Slater had lost and which became RD's purchase price. Duchatelet paid that money out when he bought Charlton, but he emphatically did not pump it into the club. It is in the books as interest-bearing debt, but it represents the accumulated losses of the previous regime. It is not sunk cost to RD either because he owns the assets it paid for (subject to a £7m caveat). Slater claimed that he was putting £1m in a month, even though there is little evidence he had such wealth. He didn't say it then stayed in the club. The published accounts don't support that claim, either then or now.
Thanks for clarifying AB. But to my larger point, apart from putting in loads which will carry debt, can you point to anything he's done that shows he's simply in this for a quick buck? I know that what he's put in has been done as debt, and even if he is naive enough to think he can somehow recoup debts or break even on a football club, I've not seen any strong actions that indicate he's planning to do that in the short term.
If Wilder is given full control then I think we should cut the board some slack
Unbelievable.
I know a lot of people protest because "they want their Charlton back" (whatever that means), but I've always been against the regime for specified reasons. those being:
-The board will not appoint a competitive manager -The board will not give the manager control over signings -The board refuses to sign experienced Football league players -The board won't give managers more than 6 months
If the board then did a total U-turn and gave me everything that I wanted, It would be hypocritical of me not to give them a chance.
I think that if most others think like this i would walk away completely and find something else to fill my Saturday afternoons.
Looks like he's been rolling around in the stuffing from the sofa, judging by the white stuff on his head. Either that or he was a naughty boy in the centre circle on Saturday.
How far can we trust Duchatelet to be telling Chris Wilder the truth! I don't think so from Jose Riga's body language you could see he wasn't happy and a leopard never changes its spots.
How far can we trust Duchatelet to be telling Chris Wilder the truth! I don't think so from Jose Riga's body language you could see he wasn't happy and a leopard never changes its spots.
I guess he's had talks with Roland now though and all talks will be with Latrine
The 48-year-old is fully aware of the backdrop of conflict at The Valley between supporters and the hierarchy. But he is set to demand total control over setting up a structure that will bring success.
All comes down to the above. If the answer is no, then he won't sign.
Doesn't seem the type to take any messing about from RD/KM. talks about the drawn out takeover of NTFC. Well worth a listen. Also pronounces 'attitude' a bit funny. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hisGrNSfqek
Speaks with passion.
Take a breather
Judging from that little bit, I like him and think he maybe exactly what Charlton need and exactly what weve been missing for a good number of years.
I'm just not sure how the two are going to mix. Him and our football club in its current state of affairs.
If he gets appointed and it doesn't work out for whatever reason in under 6 monthsit, will be a tragedy.
My fear is that the regime knows this is what the Charlton fans want and it's all simply just to appease. The common fear and assumption. Tigers don't change their stripes.
I'm not sure if any good will come out of this and to be honest it's also a bit unfair on Northampton considering the possibility we are not even serious with this.
Norhampton fans unanimously 'gutted' by his departure and concerned that he might cherry-pick his old club. Who have they thats any good?
Imagine if two years ago someone had said we'd be excited by (probably) luring a League 2 manager and even more thrilled that he might bring some of his players with him.
Doesn't seem the type to take any messing about from RD/KM. talks about the drawn out takeover of NTFC. Well worth a listen. Also pronounces 'attitude' a bit funny. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hisGrNSfqek
As a manager he seems to have a strong personality- passionate, ambitious, cares about the players, focusses on building a strong team, straight talking, honest and experienced. Unless RD and KM change their ways, can't see how this is going to work.
In terms of most likely scenarios- in order: 1. He doesn't take the job 2. Takes the job but resigns before the season starts quoting broken promises 3. He starts okay but resigns/gets sacked by Christmas as RD/ KM revert to type and he gobs off 3. It all works out fine
The move from network flunkies to an English straight talker seems very odd. Don't get it but nothing much RD does makes sense.
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Also pronounces 'attitude' a bit funny.
Wilder may feel like he has got the golden ticket to the Chocolate factory.
With this owner he may end up feeling a bit of a silly Wonka.
Sounds like tractor boy.
Would be surprised (aka I hope) if Bolton come in for him again! They now know his get out clause and that he is open to move , considering they have a new owner and a more prosperous near future - why would you pick us over them!
All comes down to the above. If the answer is no, then he won't sign.
Take a breather
Judging from that little bit, I like him and think he maybe exactly what Charlton need and exactly what weve been missing for a good number of years.
I'm just not sure how the two are going to mix. Him and our football club in its current state of affairs.
If he gets appointed and it doesn't work out for whatever reason in under 6 monthsit, will be a tragedy.
My fear is that the regime knows this is what the Charlton fans want and it's all simply just to appease. The common fear and assumption. Tigers don't change their stripes.
I'm not sure if any good will come out of this and to be honest it's also a bit unfair on Northampton considering the possibility we are not even serious with this.
Thanks Roland.
In terms of most likely scenarios- in order:
1. He doesn't take the job
2. Takes the job but resigns before the season starts quoting broken promises
3. He starts okay but resigns/gets sacked by Christmas as RD/ KM revert to type and he gobs off
3. It all works out fine
The move from network flunkies to an English straight talker seems very odd. Don't get it but nothing much RD does makes sense.