Why does anyone care how much players are sold for. It's not the club's money.
The 90% surely just see this as another silver lining to their cloudy hope of resignation causing RD to sell.
Fair enough point about it not being the clubs money. For someone that does want to achieve a minimal loss football business...it is a bit of a let down and something that should be ridiculed.
Why does anyone care how much players are sold for. It's not the club's money.
The 90% surely just see this as another silver lining to their cloudy hope of resignation causing RD to sell.
I care a lot, and if it is not the clubs money it must be Roland's meaning he has spent £3m on a player/assett and charged the club interest since the money left his account. Now, if true that player/asset is leaving for free Roland is still owed £3m meaning when Igor is long gone the club we support and put money into will still be using that money to pay Roland his interest.
If you really thing your hero (Roland) is providing funds for us and not charging us interest you need to read the thread that covers this topic and wake up and smell the coffee.
Why does anyone care how much players are sold for. It's not the club's money.
The 90% surely just see this as another silver lining to their cloudy hope of resignation causing RD to sell.
I care a lot, and if it is not the clubs money it must be Roland's meaning he has spent £3m on a player/assett and charged the club interest since the money left his account. Now, if true that player/asset is leaving for free Roland is still owed £3m meaning when Igor is long gone the club we support and put money into will still be using that money to pay Roland his interest.
If you really thing your hero (Roland) is providing funds for us and not charging us interest you need to read the thread that covers this topic and wake up and smell the coffee.
None of which was my point.
If he's further out of pocket and creating addditional debt / credit will it force him to sell or dig his heels in and try to make it back ?
Why does anyone care how much players are sold for. It's not the club's money.
The 90% surely just see this as another silver lining to their cloudy hope of resignation causing RD to sell.
I care a lot, and if it is not the clubs money it must be Roland's meaning he has spent £3m on a player/assett and charged the club interest since the money left his account. Now, if true that player/asset is leaving for free Roland is still owed £3m meaning when Igor is long gone the club we support and put money into will still be using that money to pay Roland his interest.
If you really thing your hero (Roland) is providing funds for us and not charging us interest you need to read the thread that covers this topic and wake up and smell the coffee.
None of which was my point.
If he's further out of pocket and creating addditional debt / credit will it force him to sell or dig his heels in and try to make it back ?
If the interest and rates being stated are true I doubt he will ever be out of pocket, it is a win/win for him. However the incompetence the owners have shown clearly proves they are not fit to run or manage a football club.
Mistake after mistake including financial ones will only end in one result and it will not be a good one.
Chris Parkes made it clear at the Bromley meeting that players contracts do have relegation clauses, with wages being reduced. Seeing as he dealt with contracts for many years I can't see him agreeing to such a clause in Igor's contract. Mind you with KM at the helm, who knows!
Chris doesn't agree the terms or amounts, that's not his role. He draws up the contracts and gets them signed.
Chris did say that some players have contracts where their wages drop if we are relegated but not all.
He did tell me that he advises KM, although to what extent I don't know.
Anyway, it will be no surprise to me, if more than half the squad are released for free.
RD always takes the quick money saving option, rather than assessing the overall picture.
Close the ticket office for a couple of afternoons to save money and don't consider about the reduced ticket sales.
Let Michael Morrison go for free, rather than pay a 3rd/4th centre half wages for 6 months.
If there is a clause in Vetokele's contract that allows him to leave on a free on relegation (which I doubt), we should care because when things started to look pear shaped and he started to come back into contention, that clause may well have limited his desire to return, slowing his rehabilitation and also blunting our ability to score goals.
It shouldn't have because he needs to show he's a good prospect to get a new club, but it may have. And it's stupid.
Belgian journalist Sven Claes is reporting that Igor has a clause that will see him leave on a free now that we are down. €3m spent on a transfer fee.
If this is true then Meire has hit a new low.
Unbelievable.
Just to underline my point above. Unless I am looking in the wrong place Sven Klaes did not make any reference to a clause in his contract. He only said that he will leave on a free.
Good luck to him, treated terrible by the club over his injury, hopefully gets his career back on track and it has not done any serious long term damage.
Good luck to him, treated terrible by the club over his injury, hopefully gets his career back on track and it has not done any serious long term damage.
Nice of him to pick up his wages whilst doing nothing much and fail to contribute when he was fit. Equally nice not to say "I reckon I owe them a season to get promoted and to repay pay them for paying for my rehabilitation while I did a Kelly Youga and didn't play when I was actually fit"
I know my stance is overly simplistic but I don't think it's as cut and dried as you've put.
Expecting a player who has had his injury so badly managed that it has seriously derailed his progress to spend another season of his short career at this mess of a club is probably asking a bit much.
Good luck to him, treated terrible by the club over his injury, hopefully gets his career back on track and it has not done any serious long term damage.
Nice of him to pick up his wages whilst doing nothing much and fail to contribute when he was fit. Equally nice not to say "I reckon I owe them a season to get promoted and to repay pay them for paying for my rehabilitation while I did a Kelly Youga and didn't play when I was actually fit"
I know my stance is overly simplistic but I don't think it's as cut and dried as you've put.
He's well within his rights to bugger off as quickly as possible. Forced to play through a serious achillies injury which from the outside looking in appears to have been mis-managed.
I honestly believe the only time he has been fit is the first 15-20 games he played for us.
Very generous Swisdom when you consider in his first season he was our only goal threat and was a) targeted as such by the opposition b) given absolutely no senior support in the role c) required to play a large part of the season, because there simply was no one else, on one leg.
The whole episode was a monumental cock up by Meire in failing to support the head coach, the squad and the player at the time. Something for which we have all paid a heavy price - not least the player who effectively has to rebuild his career.
If he did end up with some mental issue concerning his fitness (as per Danny Haynes) there is only one group of people who put him in that position.
On what possible basis would you want to a) play for such people b) even consider extending the relationship longer than necessary.
It has been a major disappointment to see such a bubbling talent at the outset reduced to the player he has become.
It is precisely the outcome you can expect when you fail to build the appropriate strength and depth of squad placing undue pressure on certain key players to perform no matter their fitness or form.
It should be a salutary lesson for any young talent considering signing for this regime.
I sincerely hope the young man can rebuild his career in a more positive and supportive environment.
Remember coming home from a pre-season friendly at Portsmouth where he looked awesome and scored a screamer, listening to a couple of Pompey fans rave about him.
If Igor was match fit and managed properly, he would tear league one up. Fact.
As we all know he won't be properly managed as any decent manager won't come near us so We're going to end up with another unless turd bag Belgium manager/coach puppet yes man
Very generous Swisdom when you consider in his first season he was our only goal threat and was a) targeted as such by the opposition b) given absolutely no senior support in the role c) required to play a large part of the season, because there simply was no one else, on one leg.
The whole episode was a monumental cock up by Meire in failing to support the head coach, the squad and the player at the time. Something for which we have all paid a heavy price - not least the player who effectively has to rebuild his career.
If he did end up with some mental issue concerning his fitness (as per Danny Haynes) there is only one group of people who put him in that position.
On what possible basis would you want to a) play for such people b) even consider extending the relationship longer than necessary.
It has been a major disappointment to see such a bubbling talent at the outset reduced to the player he has become.
It is precisely the outcome you can expect when you fail to build the appropriate strength and depth of squad placing undue pressure on certain key players to perform no matter their fitness or form.
It should be a salutary lesson for any young talent considering signing for this regime.
I sincerely hope the young man can rebuild his career in a more positive and supportive environment.
Is it Meire or is it Roland? It's his money after all. He thought it was enough to send us Tucudean and spend a big majority of the budget on Vetokele (£2.6m I think was said to be the fee). Peeters didn't rate Church (fair enough really) meaning a 17 year old KAG came in as our 3rd choice striker.
Saw him in his first game for Charlton in pre-season friendly at Pompey - looked sh1t-hot - scored a cracking goal, and gave their defence a torrid time - never really been the same since.
Definitely not the same player he was before that ongoing niggling injury he had
Good luck to him, treated terrible by the club over his injury, hopefully gets his career back on track and it has not done any serious long term damage.
Nice of him to pick up his wages whilst doing nothing much and fail to contribute when he was fit. Equally nice not to say "I reckon I owe them a season to get promoted and to repay pay them for paying for my rehabilitation while I did a Kelly Youga and didn't play when I was actually fit"
I know my stance is overly simplistic but I don't think it's as cut and dried as you've put.
He's well within his rights to bugger off as quickly as possible. Forced to play through a serious achillies injury which from the outside looking in appears to have been mis-managed.
I honestly believe the only time he has been fit is the first 15-20 games he played for us.
I think he is perfectly within his right to bugger off regardless of playing through injuries. Wouldn't blame and player wanting out.
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If you really thing your hero (Roland) is providing funds for us and not charging us interest you need to read the thread that covers this topic and wake up and smell the coffee.
If he's further out of pocket and creating addditional debt / credit will it force him to sell or dig his heels in and try to make it back ?
Mistake after mistake including financial ones will only end in one result and it will not be a good one.
Anyway, it will be no surprise to me, if more than half the squad are released for free.
RD always takes the quick money saving option, rather than assessing the overall picture.
Close the ticket office for a couple of afternoons to save money and don't consider about the reduced ticket sales.
Let Michael Morrison go for free, rather than pay a 3rd/4th centre half wages for 6 months.
It shouldn't have because he needs to show he's a good prospect to get a new club, but it may have. And it's stupid.
Equally nice not to say "I reckon I owe them a season to get promoted and to repay pay them for paying for my rehabilitation while I did a Kelly Youga and didn't play when I was actually fit"
I know my stance is overly simplistic but I don't think it's as cut and dried as you've put.
All the best, Igor. Hope you re find your mojo
I honestly believe the only time he has been fit is the first 15-20 games he played for us.
The club should be ashamed of the way they've handled him. Of course, they won't though
The whole episode was a monumental cock up by Meire in failing to support the head coach, the squad and the player at the time. Something for which we have all paid a heavy price - not least the player who effectively has to rebuild his career.
If he did end up with some mental issue concerning his fitness (as per Danny Haynes) there is only one group of people who put him in that position.
On what possible basis would you want to a) play for such people b) even consider extending the relationship longer than necessary.
It has been a major disappointment to see such a bubbling talent at the outset reduced to the player he has become.
It is precisely the outcome you can expect when you fail to build the appropriate strength and depth of squad placing undue pressure on certain key players to perform no matter their fitness or form.
It should be a salutary lesson for any young talent considering signing for this regime.
I sincerely hope the young man can rebuild his career in a more positive and supportive environment.
That's the end of that story.
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We're going to end up with another unless turd bag Belgium manager/coach puppet yes man