Fraeye was a woeful appointment.... But, personally I think Luzon is the worse of the two of them. Utterly inept managers to start the season. Riga is average and so has had better results but compare him to Warnock...
We bought in good players on loan/short term contracts, but, as I said at the time, they were not match fit and by the time they were it was too late.
A 0-0 draw away at Ipswich has not sent us down, it was the total incompetence that came beforehand. What a shame, a totally needless relegation.
Fraeye was a woeful appointment.... But, personally I think Luzon is the worse of the two of them. Utterly inept managers to start the season. Riga is average and so has had better results but compare him to Warnock...
We bought in good players on loan/short term contracts, but, as I said at the time, they were not match fit and by the time they were it was too late.
A 0-0 draw away at Ipswich has not sent us down, it was the total incompetence that came beforehand. What a shame, a totally needless relegation.
*uck the regime. Sell up and get lost.
Riga has them fighting for their lives in a desperate situation - which is the least you would expect. Let's not forget before this little spurt, he was also presiding over a dreadful run of 5 points from 24 - including 3 from 15 at home.
Agree on Luzon - terrible, terrible manager - nothing to offer except a bit of crouching, wild gesticulating & hand-clapping.
It has all been said. Too little, too late. The galling thing is that we are now playing well and they don't deserve to be where they are. However, the other team(s) did. Thank you RD, KM, Luzon and especially Mr Smoothy Fraeye.
Went tonight, shame this excellent result isn't good enough. Anyone who thought Fox had a bad game doesn't understand football. Time to leave this boy alone.
Iirc we were 7 points affectively from relegation after Saturday including he goal diff and after last night it's 8 , so it's gotten worse with one game less to close the gap.
As above have said an unnecessary relegation but we've been relegated before and it never ever felt this bad , I actually hate this ownership more than millwall football club and that's as bad as anything I could think of They have f*cked with my Charlton heart and since day one this freak show has never felt right for me and all its done is get worse
Roland you div , you are on to a losing trade and no matter what you do playing around cooking the books trying to make it better you will end up as the Nick Leeson of football because you are clueless , cut your losses and run to the hills you nut bag and leave us Addicks to hopefully watch a "normal" run of the mill club again
Agree staying up is looking less and less likely by the week, It's not in our hands anymore as we will need results to go our way each and every week as well as winning ourselves.
But you never know, we thump QPR Saturday and MK Dons beat Rotherham makes it Rotherham 43, MK 40 us 39.
Following week NF turn over Rotherham and Preston beat MK then all of a sudden...........
Then again that'll all probably happen but we won't get 6 points from QPR and Derby....
I hate to sound like an absolute miserable bastard but I have accepted relegation as the sum total of our efforts under this regime for a long time now. 2 years of incompetence, lies, mismanagement and arrogance catches up with you. Roland you are now staring the fruits of your work in the face. It's what you deserve.
It's not what we deserve and some of you who I respect greatly still had hope. I haven't been celebrating goals or wins for a long time now. The wins against Boro and Brum were token gestures for me. Why should I accept that we cobble together a few results in the last 10 games to put up with having my love and faith for this club crushed and stamped on by the mismanagement and incomptence of our fool of a leader and his toy box of fools doing his day to day bidding.
And now we will see Roland's clueless backlash - there has been and there will be no planning for League One. We will not do a Wigan. They like us, went down last year in a mess. They've gone back to basics and should go back up. Roland will leave the league one burden on yet more youth players. Riga will have less to work with. More support staff will probably get axed as Roland looks to cut his spending even more, yet we will have to put up with paying wages to Nabby Sarr for another 4 years.
So many mistakes, absolutely no accountability and they won't be held to justice. They've just set this club back years. Another club Roland has infected, his cancer destroying years of hard work.
I got annoyed on Saturday because at the end of the game the chap who sits in front of me pointed to my Roland out badge as if to say 'why are you wearing it'. I respect him, he's a nice guy, but you cannot hide from the facts. Roland has done FAILURE. There are no excuses. Time to go
You would think that both Huddersfield & Forest who are on very poor runs - will snap out of it as they get dragged further down.
Rotherham are the form team at the moment.
One problem we have is we don't have any "six pointer" games left against relegation rivals.
Trust me it's a good thing that we have no "six pointers" against the teams around us coming up !
I see absolutely no chance of us making up seven points on Rotherham in six games, half of which are against teams currently in the automatic or playoff spots. I don't think MK Dons will catch them either.
So we look to league one and I have absolutely no faith in this administration to get us back any time soon. In League One you don't necessarily need good players you need the right players and I have no faith that their scatter gun approach to recruitment, with seemingly little focus on players who have experience of the league's they are going to play in, will deliver those players.
The mantra for our recruitment policy this summer should be "at least competency in League One; hunger to play in the Championship".
As others have said, it's gutting to have been the better team away at a solid Ipswich, earn a decent draw and it be 'pointless'.
If KF went two/three weeks earlier, we may be in a better position. But it's all in hindsight.
Diarra has been playing through the pain barrier as it is. Goes back to us having such a paper thin squad, which cannot cope with injuries.
Hopefully the players can now relax, and play football with no pressure. We are down regardless. The experiment is going great though isn't Roland? Absolute bell....
Played really well and was the better team. Diara was awesome sitting deep and winning the 2 balls which seemed to unsettle Ipswich as that is what there game seems to be based around.
If we had not dicked about with Karel for so long i think Riga may have kept us up.
Re Diarra - interview on OS post Brum confirms he has a "crack" in his right foot - metatarsal - from Boxing Day. I fear he has pushed it too far and we may not see him for rest of season now. Such a shame - he is a real "grown-up" and brings a calm authority to the team.
Very disappointing that we're in this mess - could so easily have been avoided. God knows how many points will be needed to avoid relegation this season..... Will need a miracle to catch Fulham, Rotherham or Bristol City...
the positive is that you have quoted three teams - not inconceivable one of them goes on a bad run. However, I think we need to chase 51 points for certain safety rather than a particular team though - which means 5 wins out of 6 - 4 wins and a draw if one of the three have a poor run. It is looking hard isn't it? Especially if Diarra is significantly injured.
On Sky Sports last night just before kick off they discussed our chances of survival and one of the ex WetSpam players, Tony Cottee?, stated that we had seen us a few times this season an we were poor plus the fans were in revolt, making it sound as if the fans are to blame for our current plight.
On Sky Sports last night just before kick off they discussed our chances of survival and one of the ex WetSpam players, Tony Cottee?, stated that we had seen us a few times this season an we were poor plus the fans were in revolt, making it sound as if the fans are to blame for our current plight.
I just stop listening to Tony Cottee... Bloke constantly moans that he's got an awful game when he's on the Soccer Special
Just spoken to a colleague who supports Ipswich and went last night. He said we deserved the three points and were much better than them, but our final ball and composure in front of goal was lacking.
You would think that both Huddersfield & Forest who are on very poor runs - will snap out of it as they get dragged further down.
Rotherham are the form team at the moment.
One problem we have is we don't have any "six pointer" games left against relegation rivals.
Thanks Oakster. This shows the sheer folly of not getting a proper manager with Championship-experience when they sacked Luzon. At the time they appointed Fraeye, it was a move so ridiculous that it felt at the time like the vindictive regime was doing it just to punish the fans for having the temerity to be unhappy. Now it' backfired on them, and will cost them badly. Whoever it was who appointed Fraeye should be sacked for their incompetence.
We were fielding teams that we knew would be beat before the game - when the window is open it is inexcusable. When we did bring players in, it was instantly clear from the fans reaction that they were the wrong players - probably because the club had lost it's scouting capacity. This is what cost us. But we are not down until we are down.
The annoying thing is if we keep this squad together next season I think we would go up , but you know half will leave.
Yes, Riga has shown that given a few weeks he can build a decent team. Sadly he had to do his building during the season, hence some poor results while the new players were getting fit, but given a summer I have a lot more confidence that he can build a solid base for L1
The annoying thing is if we keep this squad together next season I think we would go up , but you know half will leave.
Yes, Riga has shown that given a few weeks he can build a decent team. Sadly he had to do his building during the season, hence some poor results while the new players were getting fit, but given a summer I have a lot more confidence that he can build a solid base for L1
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We bought in good players on loan/short term contracts, but, as I said at the time, they were not match fit and by the time they were it was too late.
A 0-0 draw away at Ipswich has not sent us down, it was the total incompetence that came beforehand. What a shame, a totally needless relegation.
*uck the regime. Sell up and get lost.
Agree on Luzon - terrible, terrible manager - nothing to offer except a bit of crouching, wild gesticulating & hand-clapping.
An unlucky night, sounds like there was some poor decision making up top.
Rotherham result bummed us a touch.
Over & out.
Bolton at home - draw
Mk dons at home - draw
Rotherham at home - draw
Bristol city at home - lost
Hudders at home - lost
Forest at home - draw
Its poor home form against those kind of sides that's cost us dear.
As above have said an unnecessary relegation but we've been relegated before and it never ever felt this bad , I actually hate this ownership more than millwall football club and that's as bad as anything I could think of
They have f*cked with my Charlton heart and since day one this freak show has never felt right for me and all its done is get worse
Roland you div , you are on to a losing trade and no matter what you do playing around cooking the books trying to make it better you will end up as the Nick Leeson of football because you are clueless , cut your losses and run to the hills you nut bag and leave us Addicks to hopefully watch a "normal" run of the mill club again
Agree staying up is looking less and less likely by the week, It's not in our hands anymore as we will need results to go our way each and every week as well as winning ourselves.
But you never know, we thump QPR Saturday and MK Dons beat Rotherham makes it Rotherham 43, MK 40 us 39.
Following week NF turn over Rotherham and Preston beat MK then all of a sudden...........
Then again that'll all probably happen but we won't get 6 points from QPR and Derby....
I see absolutely no chance of us making up seven points on Rotherham in six games, half of which are against teams currently in the automatic or playoff spots. I don't think MK Dons will catch them either.
So we look to league one and I have absolutely no faith in this administration to get us back any time soon. In League One you don't necessarily need good players you need the right players and I have no faith that their scatter gun approach to recruitment, with seemingly little focus on players who have experience of the league's they are going to play in, will deliver those players.
The mantra for our recruitment policy this summer should be "at least competency in League One; hunger to play in the Championship".
If KF went two/three weeks earlier, we may be in a better position. But it's all in hindsight.
Diarra has been playing through the pain barrier as it is. Goes back to us having such a paper thin squad, which cannot cope with injuries.
Hopefully the players can now relax, and play football with no pressure. We are down regardless. The experiment is going great though isn't Roland? Absolute bell....
Unfortunately we couldn't manage it and other results didn't go out way...
Karel - the bell was ringing for you and now it's tolling for us - thanks a lot
If we had not dicked about with Karel for so long i think Riga may have kept us up.
"It was a difficult game with neither side doing enough to win it. Both had chances and why they are in the bottom three, heaven only knows.
"They are a pretty tight unit and we weren't good enough to break that down.
"It did neither of us any favours - us trying to get into the play-offs and them out of the bottom three.
"We will try and win our next game and win as many as we can and see where that takes us.
But we are now in a must-win situation - there is no getting away from that."