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Plans to turn the Club shop into flats?

AFKABartramAFKABartram
in General Charlton
Stripped out from another thread:
Ghostofcharltonpast said:

Just to rub salt in the wounds!
Club submitted planning application to remove club shop and replace with 4 flats,
Rumour is he's waiting for improved offer for ground and relocate at Blackwall site
Guys he's going nowhere quick if anyone attends meeting with club I would suggest you ask the question
The squad means nothing at all to him look at his network no squad investment at all
Ask yourselves this question WHY has Greenwich council not popped up expressing there concerns!
Answer they get state of the art stadium in there catchment
Jiminez and slater did not fit the model and far to much baggage once they got knock back Kevin cash pulled the funding
And the rest is history.
As they say for warned is for armed.

Airman Brown said:

I heard about ten days ago that RD planned to demolish the Superstore and replace it with flats. I didn't bring it here because 1) it would be possible subject to consent to build up with reinstated retail, 2) I couldn't find a second source and 3) I did not want to start a story that might involve the shop staff losing their jobs - or the threat of that - without sufficient verification.

You cannot put another storey on the existing building.

There is no planning application to date but if there is one I think we should organise to get it rejected.

I have heard from another source that Meire would prefer a store at the 02 or Bexleyheath, but we have been there before.

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Comments

  • Fanny FanackapanFanny Fanackapan
    Thanks for posting this on a new thread, AFKA.

    Everyone needs to read this IMHO.

    And be very worried.....
  • twiggyaddicktwiggyaddick
    This completely speaks volumes of the man, his cronie CEO and the whole regime

    f*** off Roland

    This needs to be rejected!
  • AddickforlifeAddickforlife
    How legit is this information/source?
  • LeuthLeuth
    They should turn that ill-fated Brew & Choo space into the new shop ;)
  • razilrazil
    edited November 2015
    I think the point about this (if true) is it is asset stripping, and possibly the beginning of such a process for getting money out of CAFC, so much for the stability of a rich owner eh?
  • stonemusestonemuse
    Puts this ownership into an entirely new perspective if true.

    Needs to be torn apart ... the club needs a shop on-site.

    The more that surfaces regarding RD & KM, the smellier this regime gets.
  • Anna_KissedAnna_Kissed
    Maybe he wants to relocate his red sofa.
    Joking aside, if there's substance to this, we should oppose it every step of the way.
  • InspectorSandsInspectorSands
    Nothing on Greenwich Council's planning search (last application was for a catering facility in 2013).
  • GhostofcharltonpastGhostofcharltonpast
    GUYS THERE IS MORE THAN ONE WAY TO SKIN A CAT!
    if you all stand united and keep insults and personal threats limited i believe something or someone will crack and will have to provide answers.
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  • EastStandEastStand
    Won't happen. He clearly doesn't know his Charlton history. We as fans* aren't pushovers.

    *as players however....
  • The Red RobinThe Red Robin
    This is a question that has to be asked at the FF /PR event and by CAST until we have an answer.
  • se9addickse9addick
    Time to dust off the old ACV legislation. Under that we (CAST) have to be advised when there is an intention to sell the ground. Two questions to be answered are;

    a) does the legislation apply when there is an intention to sell a part of the registered property ?
    b) did we include the club shop within the boundaries of the registered area ?

    I hope KM/RD have appraised themselves of the law before they go and do something that may find them on the wrong side of it.
  • The Red RobinThe Red Robin
    edited November 2015
    Question:

    In light of West Ham moving to the OS would you take a stadium move to Greenwich Peninsula? It's a question I've been asking myself for a while now and I'm not sure on the answer.

    Could this also explain why the training ground plans have been waived through with such ease?
  • razilrazil
    se9addick said:

    Time to dust off the old ACV legislation. Under that we (CAST) have to be advised when there is an intention to sell the ground. Two questions to be answered are;

    a) does the legislation apply when there is an intention to sell a part of the registered property ?
    b) did we include the club shop within the boundaries of the registered area ?

    I hope KM/RD have appraised themselves of the law before they go and do something that may find them on the wrong side of it.

    Perhaps the land registry is a port of call for that?


    The land itself could be redeveloped, the shop moved to a temporary location nearby, and put back afterwards, or dispersed, one assumes?
  • se9addickse9addick
    The Red Robin said:

    Question:

    In light of West Ham moving to the OS would you take a stadium move to Greenwich Peninsula? It's a question I've been asking myself for a while now and I'm not sure on the answer.

    For me that's just too broad a question to answer. It entirely depends on the business case, I'm not wedded to the idea that we have to always play at the Valley, forever, but it would have to be a pretty compelling argument that convinced me we should leave.
  • BaldybonceBaldybonce
    se9addick said:

    Time to dust off the old ACV legislation. Under that we (CAST) have to be advised when there is an intention to sell the ground. Two questions to be answered are;

    a) does the legislation apply when there is an intention to sell a part of the registered property ?
    b) did we include the club shop within the boundaries of the registered area ?

    I hope KM/RD have appraised themselves of the law before they go and do something that may find them on the wrong side of it.

    and what a useful person KM would be when getting into legal minefields.
  • SantaClausSantaClaus
    Leaving aside everything else that stinks about this proposal, how can they justify squeezing four flats into such a small site? Feckin tight bastards.
  • The Red RobinThe Red Robin
    AFKABartram said:

    The Red Robin said:

    Question:

    In light of West Ham moving to the OS would you take a stadium move to Greenwich Peninsula? It's a question I've been asking myself for a while now and I'm not sure on the answer.

    I think that's one for a separate debate / thread
    Fair enough.
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  • robroyrobroy
    edited November 2015
    The fact that KM used to work in law, I would suspect they know what they are doing. Dark dark times ahead. Even if he sells up he won't give up the ground.

    He did this at another team he owned. Now rents it back to them at an extortionate rate
  • Weegie AddickWeegie Addick
    robroy said:

    The fact that KM used to work in law, I would suspect they know what they are doing.

    International competition law is KM's specialism - a little different from English planning law.

    Rumour on Twitter was that the shop would move to Bartram's.
  • The Red RobinThe Red Robin
    So could this be stage one of moving us to Greenwich Peninsula or just part of a plan to build property / hotels on the current site? Didn't he do something similar at Sint Truiden?

    Good time to dig these out?

    https://londondocklands.wordpress.com/2012/02/27/greenwich-peninsula-and-the-mystery-stadium/

    http://853blog.com/2013/08/19/greenwich-council-in-new-charlton-athletic-stadium-talks/

  • msomertonmsomerton
    \you can rule out the move to the Greenwich Penisular. The Hong Kong developers only interested in luxury homes, hotels and offices. A football stadium would not fit into this.
  • cfgscfgs
    If the current ownership move us to the peninsula and handle it in the same manner they have most other things, then they should only build one with 10,000 seats.
  • razilrazil
    If you look at Floyd Road, a developer could buy up the housing there and building a hotel that backed on the pitch and once assumes around the corner too behind the JS, with car park below, its a few minutes walk from a station, if you look at Sidcup plenty of hotels around that station, seems to be a new trend, as are hotels behind stadia.
  • soapy_jonessoapy_jones
    Will they come in XXL sizes?
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