SLP article says he'll be caretaker manager. So he's leaving his (presumably) permanent job to be our caretaker head coach? I expect they're hoping he'll get a few good results to then justify giving him the job permanently.
As I keep saying keeping the seat warm like Luzon was for the Belgium manager who will join after the euros
SLP article says he'll be caretaker manager. So he's leaving his (presumably) permanent job to be our caretaker head coach? I expect they're hoping he'll get a few good results to then justify giving him the job permanently.
As I keep saying keeping the seat warm like Luzon was for the Belgium manager who will join after the euros
How is he a joke no one knows ... He had exoeranice at the club before , was highly regarded around the club for the excellent coaching sessions the players liked him and staff around the club said he always had time to stop and chat , I met him and Riga in bexleyheath on a Thursday night and they stayed and chatted for a while. So is it a risk ??
Till the end of the season it's a decent move
This exoeranice stuff you keep going on about. Is it legal? With all the focus on doping at present, I hope so.
More negligence from our owners. I feel like we're a dog that got bought for Xmas and the family that have bought us have turned out to be a bunch of horrible scumbags and will now let us starve it death and die. Bit harsh, and please don't think I'm trivialising animal cruelty. It just seems that we really now an inconvenience for a belligerent owner who has more money than sense.
What a pathetic laughing stock we have become. Very sad
caretaker manager, so that if he starts winning games they can make him permanent, if it doesn't come off they can hire another no hoper. The RD regime think we're all a bunch of muppets.
What doesn't make sense is sacking ALL our coaching staff, then bringing in Fraeye as he will have no team around him. Riga not only had Fraeye, but also had Dyer for continuity.
Realistically can any of us honestly believe that RD will appoint a British Manager? Would love to have any of Nigel Pearson, Malky Mackay, Paul Lambert, Paulo DiCanio etc. But will they come to Charlton no way! Mackay was probably hear to apply for the Brentford job as Carsley doesn't want it full time. All this rubbish about possibly appointing a racist - shame on you clowns!
A properly organised protest/ boycott needs to happen. The game on TV is perfect. Especially as cameras are outside the game before and I'm sure sky will be lapping up any drama. If it was organised I'd be happy to go down the ground before kick off for some sort of protest then not go into watch. Or even a walkout. There's no better opportunity than a game on sky either.
Realistically can any of us honestly believe that RD will appoint a British Manager? Would love to have any of Nigel Pearson, Malky Mackay, Paul Lambert, Paulo DiCanio etc. But will they come to Charlton no way! Mackay was probably hear to apply for the Brentford job as Carsley doesn't want it full time. All this rubbish about possibly appointing a racist - shame on you clowns!
Realistically can any of us honestly believe that RD will appoint a British Manager? Would love to have any of Nigel Pearson, Malky Mackay, Paul Lambert, Paulo DiCanio etc. But will they come to Charlton no way! Mackay was probably hear to apply for the Brentford job as Carsley doesn't want it full time. All this rubbish about possibly appointing a racist - shame on you clowns!
A properly organised protest/ boycott needs to happen. The game on TV is perfect. Especially as cameras are outside the game before and I'm sure sky will be lapping up any drama. If it was organised I'd be happy to go down the ground before kick off for some sort of protest then not go into watch. Or even a walkout. There's no better opportunity than a game on sky either.
Anyone that watches us on TV probably thinks there are thousands of fans already protesting by not going.
A properly organised protest/ boycott needs to happen. The game on TV is perfect. Especially as cameras are outside the game before and I'm sure sky will be lapping up any drama. If it was organised I'd be happy to go down the ground before kick off for some sort of protest then not go into watch. Or even a walkout. There's no better opportunity than a game on sky either.
Please, organise it then, don't just post on here and expect others to organise it.
A properly organised protest/ boycott needs to happen. The game on TV is perfect. Especially as cameras are outside the game before and I'm sure sky will be lapping up any drama. If it was organised I'd be happy to go down the ground before kick off for some sort of protest then not go into watch. Or even a walkout. There's no better opportunity than a game on sky either.
Please, organise it then, don't just post on here and expect others to organise it.
Stop pushing other people to organise it and posting about them posting about it and not acting while not acting yourself, and organise it yourself HI.
To go from 'coaching' these two footballing dynasties to a side in the championship is A JOKE
And the man who was part of management team that saved us from relegation
Good point Bring back Dyer and Matthew as they were part of that team weren't they.
Only they are Powell people and you hate anyone connected to Powell.
Then again Guy was the best man for the job in your eyes, Peters was the third best manager in our history in your eyes and now Fraeye is the ideal man in your eyes.
Hopefully he's just caretaker until we can negotiate Riga's release from Metz.
Let's say you're right and we end up with Riga and Fraeye, the players are happy and we start winning again. What then? Does everyone forget (again) what Roland is doing to the club? All talks of protests get put on hold (again)?
Only thing I'll say in Defence of Karel Fraeye is this...
When Keith Peacock went to the Bromley Addicks meeting a few weeks ago, he mentioned Alan Curbishley starting out as a Manager with Charlton (Now I wasnt there so basing this on what I think someone put about the meeting so correct me if I'm wrong), Peacock said that Curbs wasnt the best Manager when he joined us but he learnt, and he learnt quickly which made him the Legend that he is when he comes to the Valley.
Fraeye... He's briefly been in England before so he sort of knows what to expect from the Championship... Yes he's doing poorly in the Belgian Third Tier but we dont know the calibre of player that he's got at his disposal there at the moment (i.e. You could have put Ferguson and Mourinho in charge of Blackpool last season but they still wouldnt have taken them to the Champions League on that squad).
What would me most about the Fraeye appointment would be his ability in the Transfer Windows (and I dont approve of the Director of Football role, its not the English club way)
To go from 'coaching' these two footballing dynasties to a side in the championship is A JOKE
And the man who was part of management team that saved us from relegation
I've worked with many different management teams over the years (outside of football of course) and the best teams are usually led by the best managers. The rest fall in line and do the jobs they are asked to do and that's all. Many of these people do a great job, but unfortunately, some believe that because they have been part of a successful team, that they are capable of being a successful manager themselves. Often it's the case that these people try to go out on their own and make a success of themselves only to fail every time, because they don't have what it takes.
Karel Fraeye has tried to go out on his own and make his own success, yet he has done NOTHING to prove that he has any of the qualities that are required to make a good number one himself. He has languished in the Belgian third division without achieving anything significant whatsoever, so tell me wise Colin, with that in mind, what qualifications does Fraeye have to convince you that he will be able to turn our season around? If he can't manage a club successfully in what is the equivalent of non-league football, how can he do it in a much tougher division in a country where he has no experience or no real knowledge of how our football works?
It's also worth mentioning that Luzon had a hand in saving us from relegation last season. Look how that turned out. It's completely possible that Riga may have gone the same way as Peeters and Luzon had he been given a full time job. Riga took over when we were in a false position. We were in the relegation places but with what was it five games in hand? I still firmly believe that we would not have been relegated that season even with Powell in charge.
Whilst I liked how Riga operated, I'm not convinced that he would still be our manager now had RD allowed him to continue in the job. Without proper funding going into the first team, we will just keep going from manager to manager until either RD gets fed up with it and sells up and moves on, or he ruins the club completely and has to give the club away because it's completely worthless. People like you are essentially allowing him to that to our club. I hope you are proud of your contribution.
Awaiting the round of 'give the bloke a chance' posts. And so the soap opera continues.
And repeat
The point is AFKA that it's not Fraeye's fault. I can't hold this ridiculous appointment against him personally. He's obviously not equipped to work at this level and everything points to him being hopelessly out of his depth. He obviously wants to progress his career and I don't blame him for wanting to have a go and prove himself. Who wouldn't. My vitriol is now fully directed at Duchatelet who is now showing breathtaking arrogance and proving that we are in fact very much some kind of weird social experiment where decisions are made not from a good business point of view but just to pursue a strange arrogance and stubbornness to accept the facts.
I'm not saying I won't go because I probably will. It's what I do but I'm afraid that I'm now very much in the RD out corner. A complete turn around for me in just a few weeks.
I want and hope Fraeye to defy the odds and be a success but I'm long enough in the tooth to know that these things rarely work out well.
I'm really very pissed off.
It was very clear to those who wanted to see when Chris Powell was sacked that Roland is a nutter. Fair enough that people didn't want to believe it and have given him time to show otherwise or change, but things have played out accordingly. Meire is a ridiculous chief executive who has been cut far too much slack and Fraeye will no doubt go through the same honeymoon period as all RD's other puppets, with fans being urged to give him a chance.
It's as foolish us going round in circles as it is Duchatelet. His ideas will never work and he will kill the club while reasonable people are giving each replacement the benefit of the doubt and hoping for the best. This is a war of attrition and we need to fight it.
I think this is the key point.
We have to realise that we're dealing with our very own Belgian 'Rain Man'. I advise anyone who doubts it to read his interview by a Belgian journalist in the current issue of the Trust News – not for the value of anything he says but for the insight it gives into how his mind works and in particular his view of himself; in his own words he believes himself to be a “visionary” who sees things others can't.
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Fuck a duck sideways anyone can see that
He has so far managed
Eendracht Zele in the belgian THIRD division
And the mighty
VW Hamme in the belgian THIRD division
To go from 'coaching' these two footballing dynasties to a side in the championship is A JOKE
What a pathetic laughing stock we have become. Very sad
Would love to have any of Nigel Pearson, Malky Mackay, Paul Lambert, Paulo DiCanio etc.
But will they come to Charlton no way! Mackay was probably hear to apply for the
Brentford job as Carsley doesn't want it full time.
All this rubbish about possibly appointing a racist - shame on you clowns!
You @theorganiser, @kentred2 all calling for a boycott.
Stop talking and start acting then, please.
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Haha hahahaha haha
Hahaha
Ha.
If you think his comments are either stupid, or purposely for a wind up, just ignore them
Bring back Dyer and Matthew as they were part of that team weren't they.
Only they are Powell people and you hate anyone connected to Powell.
Then again Guy was the best man for the job in your eyes, Peters was the third best manager in our history in your eyes and now Fraeye is the ideal man in your eyes.
That famous British manager Paulo Dicanio
Saracasm - the lowest form of wit!
Anyway would rather have the Italian Paulo DiCanio than Karel Fraeye,
Di Canio showed plenty of passion when he played for us!
When Keith Peacock went to the Bromley Addicks meeting a few weeks ago, he mentioned Alan Curbishley starting out as a Manager with Charlton (Now I wasnt there so basing this on what I think someone put about the meeting so correct me if I'm wrong), Peacock said that Curbs wasnt the best Manager when he joined us but he learnt, and he learnt quickly which made him the Legend that he is when he comes to the Valley.
Fraeye... He's briefly been in England before so he sort of knows what to expect from the Championship... Yes he's doing poorly in the Belgian Third Tier but we dont know the calibre of player that he's got at his disposal there at the moment (i.e. You could have put Ferguson and Mourinho in charge of Blackpool last season but they still wouldnt have taken them to the Champions League on that squad).
What would me most about the Fraeye appointment would be his ability in the Transfer Windows (and I dont approve of the Director of Football role, its not the English club way)
Karel Fraeye has tried to go out on his own and make his own success, yet he has done NOTHING to prove that he has any of the qualities that are required to make a good number one himself. He has languished in the Belgian third division without achieving anything significant whatsoever, so tell me wise Colin, with that in mind, what qualifications does Fraeye have to convince you that he will be able to turn our season around? If he can't manage a club successfully in what is the equivalent of non-league football, how can he do it in a much tougher division in a country where he has no experience or no real knowledge of how our football works?
It's also worth mentioning that Luzon had a hand in saving us from relegation last season. Look how that turned out. It's completely possible that Riga may have gone the same way as Peeters and Luzon had he been given a full time job. Riga took over when we were in a false position. We were in the relegation places but with what was it five games in hand? I still firmly believe that we would not have been relegated that season even with Powell in charge.
Whilst I liked how Riga operated, I'm not convinced that he would still be our manager now had RD allowed him to continue in the job. Without proper funding going into the first team, we will just keep going from manager to manager until either RD gets fed up with it and sells up and moves on, or he ruins the club completely and has to give the club away because it's completely worthless. People like you are essentially allowing him to that to our club. I hope you are proud of your contribution.
We have to realise that we're dealing with our very own Belgian 'Rain Man'. I advise anyone who doubts it to read his interview by a Belgian journalist in the current issue of the Trust News – not for the value of anything he says but for the insight it gives into how his mind works and in particular his view of himself; in his own words he believes himself to be a “visionary” who sees things others can't.
http://issuu.com/castrust/docs/tnt10/15?e=6744795/30366687
In 'Roland World' if his plan is not working then it's the fault of others for not carrying out the plan correctly not Roland's plan.....