Now I've been a Charlton fan for 10years , understandably that is nothing compared to many of our fan base so I accept any criticism from those people who have been supporters a while , those who got us back to the valley etc and those people only... But , if you don't want to or refuse to support Charlton in what people are classing as 'dark days' then I personally prefer you left! COYR!
Personally I don't understand this attitude. I want people to support Charlton, but I want them to be happy supporting Charlton. It can be a bit of a slog at times, if people want to take a break and then come back later, then good luck to them. It's a football club, not The Moonies.
But lets be honest , were any of us happy to be playing in league one against the likes of Tranmere etc or were people happy to fork out travel costs to see a naff team in a naff Division playing other naff teams?
Of course we all want our fellow fans to be happy as it means there is a bloody good chance whatever has made them happy will positively effect us .. but does showing a lack of support for the club aka its players and others based on a few decisions really benefit the club?
@sammy391 (and others), you have no idea of what other peoples credentials are in their support so please don't call others so-called fans because they feel differently to you.
No British manager with any respect would touch our club in its present form. That should tell you something.
So alan curbishley in fact didnt say he was interested?
He said they should talk to him. Do you think they made that phone call ? If not, don't you think they should have done ?
There is a difference between supporting Charlton and people not wanting to put a penny into this regime, posts like this are quite frankly rude. Some of the most hardcore Charlton fans I know will not be attending another game this season, why should they pump their emotions, money and effort into something that Rland is not doing the same for our club?
@sammy391 (and others), you have no idea of what other peoples credentials are in their support so please don't call others so-called fans because they feel differently to you.
No British manager with any respect would touch our club in its present form. That should tell you something.
So alan curbishley in fact didnt say he was interested?
He said they should talk to him. Do you think they made that phone call ? If not, don't you think they should have done ?
But that goes against afka's statement that "no british manager with any respect would touch this club"!
@sammy391 (and others), you have no idea of what other peoples credentials are in their support so please don't call others so-called fans because they feel differently to you.
No British manager with any respect would touch our club in its present form. That should tell you something.
So alan curbishley in fact didnt say he was interested?
He said he would have a conversation, if you think he would in a million years have considered being a coach who has no real say which players come into his club, are selecting by an assortment of overseas computer analysts and a Belgium amateur league part time manager, and flops who can't get in the Leige first team, then you would believe anything.
@sammy391 (and others), you have no idea of what other peoples credentials are in their support so please don't call others so-called fans because they feel differently to you.
No British manager with any respect would touch our club in its present form. That should tell you something.
So alan curbishley in fact didnt say he was interested?
He said they should talk to him. Do you think they made that phone call ? If not, don't you think they should have done ?
But that goes against afka's statement that "no british manager with any respect would touch this club"!
And none did, because presumably they weren't given the change to get within touching distance despite the thorough recruitment process that was undertaken.
@sammy391 (and others), you have no idea of what other peoples credentials are in their support so please don't call others so-called fans because they feel differently to you.
No British manager with any respect would touch our club in its present form. That should tell you something.
What utter drivel. It's a job. Loads of out of work managers who would have loved this job. RD chose someone he is used to and has been successful with. Seems to smell of xenophobia.
Now I've been a Charlton fan for 10years , understandably that is nothing compared to many of our fan base so I accept any criticism from those people who have been supporters a while , those who got us back to the valley etc and those people only... But , if you don't want to or refuse to support Charlton in what people are classing as 'dark days' then I personally prefer you left! If you give up on your team due to some bloke from Belgium and refuse to support the players and staff ,then in my opinion you don't deserve the 'good days' that will come! Is the appointment of Guy Luzon really near as bad as the financial difficulties and bankruptcy of the past and then not having a ground to call home then don't expect a welcome when you suddenly turn up if and when we are in our good days!
I've seen so many so called fans posting on twitter, facebook and other mediums that they aren't going to Charlton until RD is out , or until Luzon is out , or even until we have our Charlton Back - i'm just glad that it wasn't those of you who were around when The Valley was taken away from us , or when the Charlton fans dug deep into their pocket to sign the club Ronnie Moore!
Lets all get behind the club , the team , the players and the manager whoever they might be because we all support CHARLTON ATHLETIC FC .. not whoever is the flavour of the month at charlton or whatever
@sammy391 (and others), you have no idea of what other peoples credentials are in their support so please don't call others so-called fans because they feel differently to you.
No British manager with any respect would touch our club in its present form. That should tell you something.
What utter drivel. It's a job. Loads of out of work managers who would have loved this job. RD chose someone he is used to and has been successful with. Seems to smell of xenophobia.
We were appointing a head coach. There is no way any respected manager, as AFKA says, would touch us after he looked into how RD goes about business, they would ruin their own reputation. It'd be job suicide.
@sammy391 (and others), you have no idea of what other peoples credentials are in their support so please don't call others so-called fans because they feel differently to you.
No British manager with any respect would touch our club in its present form. That should tell you something.
What utter drivel. It's a job. Loads of out of work managers who would have loved this job. RD chose someone he is used to and has been successful with. Seems to smell of xenophobia a chairman in an ivory tower without either attachment to what he has bought or a clue how to maintain it.
@sammy391 (and others), you have no idea of what other peoples credentials are in their support so please don't call others so-called fans because they feel differently to you.
No British manager with any respect would touch our club in its present form. That should tell you something.
What utter drivel. It's a job. Loads of out of work managers who would have loved this job. RD chose someone he is used to and has been successful with. Seems to smell of xenophobia.
Nothing to do with xenophobia, it is the fact yet another manager has been appoint d who has no experience in English football
I'm really so unenthused about this appointment as I was when Peeters and Riga were both brought in. Not an ounce of excitement at all. I gave them both a chance and as underwhelmed as I feel right now I already have Watford tickets so will judge Luzon heavily on Saturday rightly or wrongly, I just don't have a good gut feel about this appointment.
Just about the only thing I can suggest is those considering / giving up should at least stick together and join the Supporters Trust or whichever fans group has the loudest voice, once which RD / KM can't ignore.
Now I've been a Charlton fan for 10years , understandably that is nothing compared to many of our fan base so I accept any criticism from those people who have been supporters a while , those who got us back to the valley etc and those people only... But , if you don't want to or refuse to support Charlton in what people are classing as 'dark days' then I personally prefer you left! COYR!
Personally I don't understand this attitude. I want people to support Charlton, but I want them to be happy supporting Charlton. It can be a bit of a slog at times, if people want to take a break and then come back later, then good luck to them. It's a football club, not The Moonies.
But lets be honest , were any of us happy to be playing in league one against the likes of Tranmere etc or were people happy to fork out travel costs to see a naff team in a naff Division playing other naff teams?
Of course we all want our fellow fans to be happy as it means there is a bloody good chance whatever has made them happy will positively effect us .. but does showing a lack of support for the club aka its players and others based on a few decisions really benefit the club?
Maybe it doesn't benefit the club but (unfortunately) football is an industry now - an entertainments industry. As much as you might like you think they everyone goes to Charlton for the benefit of the club, first and foremost people go to be entertained. If they aren't enjoying it, it's their choice to go less, not at all, or to go along and moan about it. You, Me, Katrien, Sepp Blatter or anyone else, have no right to tell them any different.
Don't tell me how to be a fan. I could reel off a load badge of honours, ticks etc, from relegation seasons and League One, all here now kept going through that period. We play in white, live off cast offs from a mediocre team in a second rate league, have treated loyal players like crap, and now have a coach who is a certified yes man. It's not the same club I or many others grew up with and I don't blame anyone for not wanting to hand their hard earned money over to Roland or the f'n 'network'.
But then, Is the premier league days club the same as the one that people grew up with in the 60's ? ridiculous reason for not supporting a club ... do you want/expect the kids who support Charlton now to get the hump and start giving up because we play hoof-ball under an English manager in the future or because we are struggling financially as RD left?
What would be your reaction if we changed our name to Charlton Red Bulls, wore all white and had the bulls as a badge? You'd be peeved and probably reconsider your support, yes? Everyone has their own breaking point.
After a long succession of questionable, baffling and blatantly self-serving decisions from Roland, some people are near or at their point of breaking.
What's more, the one thing he does care about is money. If people don't want to attend then they hit him where it hurts most - his pocket.
There not fans are they ...... Standing out side high court 15 mins till we lost Charlton Football Club ... Helping dig the valley on a wet sunday morning this is what makes a fan , managers, players, owners come and go Charlton will continue with proper fans behind it
Precisely!
You get the measure of someone when they quote Colin and say 'Precisely!'
@sammy391 (and others), you have no idea of what other peoples credentials are in their support so please don't call others so-called fans because they feel differently to you.
No British manager with any respect would touch our club in its present form. That should tell you something.
What utter drivel. It's a job. Loads of out of work managers who would have loved this job. RD chose someone he is used to and has been successful with. Seems to smell of xenophobia.
Nothing to do with xenophobia, it is the fact yet another manager has been appoint d who has no experience in English football
Yeah Wenger and Mourinho had loads of experience before coming here. LOL
The answer to how we feel as a group, with this boring Belgian experiment, will be there for all to see when our home support is another 2k lower than this season
@sammy391 (and others), you have no idea of what other peoples credentials are in their support so please don't call others so-called fans because they feel differently to you.
No British manager with any respect would touch our club in its present form. That should tell you something.
What utter drivel. It's a job. Loads of out of work managers who would have loved this job. RD chose someone he is used to and has been successful with. Seems to smell of xenophobia.
Nothing to do with xenophobia, it is the fact yet another manager has been appoint d who has no experience in English football
Yeah Wenger and Mourinho had loads of experience before coming here. LOL
Well Mourinho winning the Champions League was a bit of a better indicator for future success than Luzon getting sacked by Standard Liege so well done on an irrelevant point.
Now I've been a Charlton fan for 10years , understandably that is nothing compared to many of our fan base so I accept any criticism from those people who have been supporters a while , those who got us back to the valley etc and those people only... But , if you don't want to or refuse to support Charlton in what people are classing as 'dark days' then I personally prefer you left! If you give up on your team due to some bloke from Belgium and refuse to support the players and staff ,then in my opinion you don't deserve the 'good days' that will come! Is the appointment of Guy Luzon really near as bad as the financial difficulties and bankruptcy of the past and then not having a ground to call home then don't expect a welcome when you suddenly turn up if and when we are in our good days!
I've seen so many so called fans posting on twitter, facebook and other mediums that they aren't going to Charlton until RD is out , or until Luzon is out , or even until we have our Charlton Back - i'm just glad that it wasn't those of you who were around when The Valley was taken away from us , or when the Charlton fans dug deep into their pocket to sign the club Ronnie Moore!
Lets all get behind the club , the team , the players and the manager whoever they might be because we all support CHARLTON ATHLETIC FC .. not whoever is the flavour of the month at charlton or whatever
COYR!
I would say that is most probably a shorter time then pretty much everyone on this entire forum. I don't know if it's because you're ten years old or you decided to start supporting Charlton for some strange reason during a mid-life crisis. Either way you have no place to be telling people to 'please leave' when they are very, very rightly pissed off. I am still just 19 myself and my first game was in 1999, still a short time compared to most on here (granted not you), however this is quite possibly the most disconnected I have ever felt from my club throughout my whole time as a supporter. So christ knows what this must be like for those who helped us return to the valley or were there during the 40s,50s,60s etc. So please do not sit there during a time like this and tell those supporters who are rightly annoyed and have spent their life following this club to leave.
Having read through all the posts above, there seems to be one common link to them all.
We're all bloody unhappy with the current situation. Now, why do you think that would be..?
It's because, for whatever reason, no matter how illogical it may be, or how maddening, frustrating and at times enraging it might be..... we bloody well love this club.
Sammy may have only been a fan for ten years, but I'd presume that is due to his relative youth. I don't agree with his comments, but they come across to me as being written with passion and a desire to show a united front with the club regardless of who is in charge. Speaking for myself, I've been a Charlton supporter for more than 50 years now and in relation to some of the crises I've seen this club endure, the current situation is pretty small beer.
How many times have I walked back up Charlton Church Lane after a game muttering under my breath that "That's it. No more. I'm never going back ever again". More times than I can remember, and yet, here I am, still turning up and suffering the same old same old.
We get frustrated and angry because we give a damn. We bloody well care about this club and seeing it being used by a complete and utter plank like Duchatelet rankles. I would truly like to meet him face to face and tell him what I think. I can assure you all that it would contain the sort of language that old salts are well known for.
But whatever the bottom line may be in the future, I'll never give up on this club. I've been through too much to quit now. I'll not give up my lifelong devotion for the sake of bloody foreigner who I'd be quite happy to send packing across the Channel - or better still, into it - as soon as look at him.
@sammy391 (and others), you have no idea of what other peoples credentials are in their support so please don't call others so-called fans because they feel differently to you.
No British manager with any respect would touch our club in its present form. That should tell you something.
What utter drivel. It's a job. Loads of out of work managers who would have loved this job. RD chose someone he is used to and has been successful with. Seems to smell of xenophobia.
Nothing to do with xenophobia, it is the fact yet another manager has been appoint d who has no experience in English football
Yeah Wenger and Mourinho had loads of experience before coming here. LOL
Well Mourinho winning the Champions League was a bit of a better indicator for future success than Luzon getting sacked by Standard Liege so well done on an irrelevant point.
The answer to how we feel as a group, with this boring Belgian experiment, will be there for all to see when our home support is another 2k lower than this season
You are bang on there mate, thing is floating voters won't renew. And they probably won't come back next season full stop.
Idiots like us will renew thereby forfeiting our voice.
Even if Duchatelet comes out and spouts a load more waffle or pulls katrien mieres strings to say what a great man this latest redeployee is the damage is done with this appointment.
I don't need to prove how much of a fan I am to anybody I will absolutely voice my opinion and concern for being treated with contempt
@sammy391 (and others), you have no idea of what other peoples credentials are in their support so please don't call others so-called fans because they feel differently to you.
No British manager with any respect would touch our club in its present form. That should tell you something.
What utter drivel. It's a job. Loads of out of work managers who would have loved this job. RD chose someone he is used to and has been successful with. Seems to smell of xenophobia.
Nothing to do with xenophobia, it is the fact yet another manager has been appoint d who has no experience in English football
Yeah Wenger and Mourinho had loads of experience before coming here. LOL
Well Mourinho winning the Champions League was a bit of a better indicator for future success than Luzon getting sacked by Standard Liege so well done on an irrelevant point.
48.61% win rate at Standard Liege
Ronny Deila has a 60% win rate at Celtic and I wouldn't want him, it's going to always be higher because Anderlecht, Liege and Club Brugge are much bigger than everyone else. Although Tim Sherwood would be proud of you for that defence of Luzon.
We are Charlton. The day WILL come when we rise above all this bullshit and negativity.The people burying us into the ground WILL be gone. We WILL once again be happy and have smiles on our faces.
I just hope I'm alive to see it!!........or more likely , hear it on the wireless.
Having read through all the posts above, there seems to be one common link to them all.
We're all bloody unhappy with the current situation. Now, why do you think that would be..?
It's because, for whatever reason, no matter how illogical it may be, or how maddening, frustrating and at times enraging it might be..... we bloody well love this club.
Sammy may have only been a fan for ten years, but I'd presume that is due to his relative youth. I don't agree with his comments, but they come across to me as being written with passion and a desire to show a united front with the club regardless of who is in charge. Speaking for myself, I've been a Charlton supporter for more than 50 years now and in relation to some of the crises I've seen this club endure, the current situation is pretty small beer.
How many times have I walked back up Charlton Church Lane after a game muttering under my breath that "That's it. No more. I'm never going back ever again". More times than I can remember, and yet, here I am, still turning up and suffering the same old same old.
We get frustrated and angry because we give a damn. We bloody well care about this club and seeing it being used by a complete and utter plank like Duchatelet rankles. I would truly like to meet him face to face and tell him what I think. I can assure you all that it would contain the sort of language that old salts are well known for.
But whatever the bottom line may be in the future, I'll never give up on this club. I've been through too much to quit now. I'll not give up my lifelong devotion for the sake of bloody foreigner who I'd be quite happy to send packing across the Channel - or better still, into it - as soon as look at him.
Having read through all the posts above, there seems to be one common link to them all.
We're all bloody unhappy with the current situation. Now, why do you think that would be..?
It's because, for whatever reason, no matter how illogical it may be, or how maddening, frustrating and at times enraging it might be..... we bloody well love this club.
Sammy may have only been a fan for ten years, but I'd presume that is due to his relative youth. I don't agree with his comments, but they come across to me as being written with passion and a desire to show a united front with the club regardless of who is in charge. Speaking for myself, I've been a Charlton supporter for more than 50 years now and in relation to some of the crises I've seen this club endure, the current situation is pretty small beer.
How many times have I walked back up Charlton Church Lane after a game muttering under my breath that "That's it. No more. I'm never going back ever again". More times than I can remember, and yet, here I am, still turning up and suffering the same old same old.
We get frustrated and angry because we give a damn. We bloody well care about this club and seeing it being used by a complete and utter plank like Duchatelet rankles. I would truly like to meet him face to face and tell him what I think. I can assure you all that it would contain the sort of language that old salts are well known for.
But whatever the bottom line may be in the future, I'll never give up on this club. I've been through too much to quit now. I'll not give up my lifelong devotion for the sake of bloody foreigner who I'd be quite happy to send packing across the Channel - or better still, into it - as soon as look at him.
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Of course we all want our fellow fans to be happy as it means there is a bloody good chance whatever has made them happy will positively effect us .. but does showing a lack of support for the club aka its players and others based on a few decisions really benefit the club?
Just about the only thing I can suggest is those considering / giving up should at least stick together and join the Supporters Trust or whichever fans group has the loudest voice, once which RD / KM can't ignore.
After a long succession of questionable, baffling and blatantly self-serving decisions from Roland, some people are near or at their point of breaking.
What's more, the one thing he does care about is money. If people don't want to attend then they hit him where it hurts most - his pocket.
Your post angered me very much.
We're all bloody unhappy with the current situation. Now, why do you think that would be..?
It's because, for whatever reason, no matter how illogical it may be, or how maddening, frustrating and at times enraging it might be..... we bloody well love this club.
Sammy may have only been a fan for ten years, but I'd presume that is due to his relative youth. I don't agree with his comments, but they come across to me as being written with passion and a desire to show a united front with the club regardless of who is in charge. Speaking for myself, I've been a Charlton supporter for more than 50 years now and in relation to some of the crises I've seen this club endure, the current situation is pretty small beer.
How many times have I walked back up Charlton Church Lane after a game muttering under my breath that "That's it. No more. I'm never going back ever again". More times than I can remember, and yet, here I am, still turning up and suffering the same old same old.
We get frustrated and angry because we give a damn. We bloody well care about this club and seeing it being used by a complete and utter plank like Duchatelet rankles. I would truly like to meet him face to face and tell him what I think. I can assure you all that it would contain the sort of language that old salts are well known for.
But whatever the bottom line may be in the future, I'll never give up on this club. I've been through too much to quit now. I'll not give up my lifelong devotion for the sake of bloody foreigner who I'd be quite happy to send packing across the Channel - or better still, into it - as soon as look at him.
Does RD get right up my nose? Hell, yes.
Will I keep following the team ? You betcha.
Stroppy lot us Charlton supporters, aren't we..?
Idiots like us will renew thereby forfeiting our voice.
Even if Duchatelet comes out and spouts a load more waffle or pulls katrien mieres strings to say what a great man this latest redeployee is the damage is done with this appointment.
I don't need to prove how much of a fan I am to anybody I will absolutely voice my opinion and concern for being treated with contempt
I just hope I'm alive to see it!!........or more likely , hear it on the wireless.