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  • edited November 2014
    Like the link above - UKIP supporters with their natural best pals from the far right. I am surprised Nick Griffin hasn't joined them yet as he has now been kicked out of the BNP.

    Deputy Leader?
  • Farage has said that no ex member of the BNP will be allowed to join UKIP. Very smart.
  • edited November 2014

    A poll in Rochester & Strood this week gives UKIP a 48% share of the vote.

    The poll puts support for UKIP on 48 per cent, with the Conservatives on 33, Labour, who came second in 2010, on 16 per cent, the Greens on two percent and the Lib Dems on just one per cent.

    A opinion poll in December 1981 gave the then newly formed SDP/Liberal alliance 50.5% of the national vote (and then what happened?) - so don't get too excited....

    http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/voting-intention-1979-1983
  • rel="Fiiish">Labour tooting their trumpet over winning a by-election of an elected position they would abolish if in government.

    I never really got those election.
    Don't all the candidates say they are against crime and for law and order?
    How do you choose?
    I guess most people think the same as me abd don't bother.
  • Farage has said that no ex member of the BNP will be allowed to join UKIP. Very smart.

    Labour don't ban former communist party members from joining them. Peter Mandelson is an ex red shirt.
  • Farage has said that no ex member of the BNP will be allowed to join UKIP. Very smart.

    Labour don't ban former communist party members from joining them. Peter Mandelson is an ex red shirt.
    What's your point ?

  • Watch "life is toff" currently showing on TV about the Fulfords. They are a UKIP supporting family from Devon.
  • 11% postal vote, a little suspect..
  • Farage has said that no ex member of the BNP will be allowed to join UKIP. Very smart.

    The only party to have to ban former BNP members from joining
  • Chizz said:

    Farage has said that no ex member of the BNP will be allowed to join UKIP. Very smart.

    The only party to have to ban former BNP members from joining
    Because people like yourself would call them out on it if a BNP member joined. You can't have it both ways.

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  • Croydon said:

    Chizz said:

    Farage has said that no ex member of the BNP will be allowed to join UKIP. Very smart.

    The only party to have to ban former BNP members from joining
    Because people like yourself would call them out on it if a BNP member joined. You can't have it both ways.

    Thanks for letting me know what I would do.
  • Chizz said:

    Farage has said that no ex member of the BNP will be allowed to join UKIP. Very smart.

    The only party to have to ban former BNP members from joining
    The only party that has to - hasn't stopped them shamelessly courting ex BNP voters.
  • edited November 2014
    A decade ago this might not have been the case?
    Exceptions, obviously, but its the same for all of em.

    From Gruaniad 2004
    Maureen Stowe, the Burnley councillor who left the British National party in February, has joined Labour in the wake of last week's local government election.

    and this year it's not the only party who need to tread carefully...
    Telegraph 2014
    Simon Danczuk MP: 'Labour's militant left no better than BNP'
    The militant left of the Labour Party threaten social cohesion, espouse the politics of the madhouse and are no better than the BNP, writes Simon Danczuk MP.

    and
    A Conservative candidate for a South Kesteven District Council by-election is a former British National Party activist. Dr Peter Moseley was selected to fight the single-member Aveland ward after the resignation of Conservative councillor Debbie Wren in January because of work commitments. Wren had been elected in 2011 with a large majority.

    and again, this year
    Will Straw, son of Jack Straw, gets support from ex-BNP member for his bid to be an MP
    Will Straw, the son of a former Labour Home Secretary who is bidding to become an MP, has received the official backing of an ex-BNP organiser.
  • A decade ago this might not have been the case?
    Exceptions, obviously, but its the same for all of em.

    From Gruaniad 2004
    Maureen Stowe, the Burnley councillor who left the British National party in February, has joined Labour in the wake of last week's local government election.

    Telegraph
    Simon Danczuk MP: 'Labour's militant left no better than BNP'
    The militant left of the Labour Party threaten social cohesion, espouse the politics of the madhouse and are no better than the BNP, writes Simon Danczuk MP.

    and
    A Conservative candidate for a South Kesteven District Council by-election is a former British National Party activist. Dr Peter Moseley was selected to fight the single-member Aveland ward after the resignation of Conservative councillor Debbie Wren in January because of work commitments. Wren had been elected in 2011 with a large majority.

    and again
    Will Straw, son of Jack Straw, gets support from ex-BNP member for his bid to be an MP
    Will Straw, the son of a former Labour Home Secretary who is bidding to become an MP, has received the official backing of an ex-BNP organiser.

    Yeah but why would you let the truth get in the way of a good argument?
  • Farage has said that no ex member of the BNP will be allowed to join UKIP. Very smart.

    Labour don't ban former communist party members from joining them. Peter Mandelson is an ex red shirt.
    What's your point ?

    Labour could have taken the lead in banning dangerous extremists. They have declined to do so.

    It's a shame that people like chizz kept so quiet about this for so long.
  • Farage has said that no ex member of the BNP will be allowed to join UKIP. Very smart.

    Labour don't ban former communist party members from joining them. Peter Mandelson is an ex red shirt.
    What's your point ?

    Labour could have taken the lead in banning dangerous extremists. They have declined to do so.

    It's a shame that people like chizz kept so quiet about this for so long.
    Dangerous extremists ! The British Communist Party. Lol

  • A decade ago this might not have been the case?
    Exceptions, obviously, but its the same for all of em.

    From Gruaniad 2004
    Maureen Stowe, the Burnley councillor who left the British National party in February, has joined Labour in the wake of last week's local government election.

    and this year it's not the only party who need to tread carefully...
    Telegraph 2014
    Simon Danczuk MP: 'Labour's militant left no better than BNP'
    The militant left of the Labour Party threaten social cohesion, espouse the politics of the madhouse and are no better than the BNP, writes Simon Danczuk MP.

    and
    A Conservative candidate for a South Kesteven District Council by-election is a former British National Party activist. Dr Peter Moseley was selected to fight the single-member Aveland ward after the resignation of Conservative councillor Debbie Wren in January because of work commitments. Wren had been elected in 2011 with a large majority.

    and again, this year
    Will Straw, son of Jack Straw, gets support from ex-BNP member for his bid to be an MP
    Will Straw, the son of a former Labour Home Secretary who is bidding to become an MP, has received the official backing of an ex-BNP organiser.



    Doesn't even rhyme.
  • Chizz said:

    Farage has said that no ex member of the BNP will be allowed to join UKIP. Very smart.

    The only party to have to ban former BNP members from joining
    How would anyone know who was or was not a member of the BNP or any other political party for that matter?

    The data are private.

    Does that mean that the UKIP membership application form says: "Are you or have you ever been a member of the BNP"?

    That's like assuming 13-year-old boys answer honestly when asked by 4oD to confirm "I'm over 18 and can watch this programme even though it's got rude bits in it"
  • Farage has said that no ex member of the BNP will be allowed to join UKIP. Very smart.

    Labour don't ban former communist party members from joining them. Peter Mandelson is an ex red shirt.
    What's your point ?

    Labour could have taken the lead in banning dangerous extremists. They have declined to do so.

    It's a shame that people like chizz kept so quiet about this for so long.
    I'm very flattered that you think my views might have been so influential. But let me ask something - which "dangerous extremists" should - and could - have been banned from joining Labour?
  • Chizz said:


    Farage has said that no ex member of the BNP will be allowed to join UKIP. Very smart.

    Labour don't ban former communist party members from joining them. Peter Mandelson is an ex red shirt.
    What's your point ?

    Labour could have taken the lead in banning dangerous extremists. They have declined to do so.

    It's a shame that people like chizz kept so quiet about this for so long.
    I'm very flattered that you think my views might have been so influential. But let me ask something - which "dangerous extremists" should - and could - have been banned from joining Labour?
    Harriet Harman
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  • IAgree said:

    Chizz said:

    Farage has said that no ex member of the BNP will be allowed to join UKIP. Very smart.

    The only party to have to ban former BNP members from joining
    The only party that has to - hasn't stopped them shamelessly courting ex BNP voters.
    ...and Labour voters and Tory voters ad LibDem voters............

    Change the record.

  • Addickted said:

    IAgree said:

    Chizz said:

    Farage has said that no ex member of the BNP will be allowed to join UKIP. Very smart.

    The only party to have to ban former BNP members from joining
    The only party that has to - hasn't stopped them shamelessly courting ex BNP voters.
    ...and Labour voters and Tory voters ad LibDem voters............

    Change the record.

    Indeed " repeat - we are a non - racist party " (in case anyone gets confused by the policies ) " We won't accept ex BNP members" ( but if you are racist and voted for a unashamedly racist party then welcome aboard).

    "We psychologically screen our candidates" ( in case we recruit too many closet racists and fruitcakes)

    No other party can claim all of theses things - No other party needs to!

  • edited November 2014
    IAgree said:

    Addickted said:

    IAgree said:

    Chizz said:

    Farage has said that no ex member of the BNP will be allowed to join UKIP. Very smart.

    The only party to have to ban former BNP members from joining
    The only party that has to - hasn't stopped them shamelessly courting ex BNP voters.
    ...and Labour voters and Tory voters ad LibDem voters............

    Change the record.

    Indeed " repeat - we are a non - racist party " (in case anyone gets confused by the policies ) " We won't accept ex BNP members" ( but if you are racist and voted for a unashamedly racist party then welcome aboard).

    "We psychologically screen our candidates" ( in case we recruit too many closet racists and fruitcakes)

    No other party can claim all of theses things - No other party needs to!

    Can you read? (the quotes above)
    All the parties need to!
  • edited November 2014

    IAgree said:

    Addickted said:

    IAgree said:

    Chizz said:

    Farage has said that no ex member of the BNP will be allowed to join UKIP. Very smart.

    The only party to have to ban former BNP members from joining
    The only party that has to - hasn't stopped them shamelessly courting ex BNP voters.
    ...and Labour voters and Tory voters ad LibDem voters............

    Change the record.

    Indeed " repeat - we are a non - racist party " (in case anyone gets confused by the policies ) " We won't accept ex BNP members" ( but if you are racist and voted for a unashamedly racist party then welcome aboard).

    "We psychologically screen our candidates" ( in case we recruit too many closet racists and fruitcakes)

    No other party can claim all of theses things - No other party needs to!

    Can you read?
    All the parties need to!
    </blockquote

    The point is that no other mainstream party is this paranoid about potential recruits and the reason is that lots of dodgy extreme racists with unpalatable views join UKIP as members- Hardly a week goes by without some candidate or other making some objectionable statment or other.

    Yes I can obviously read ?
  • edited November 2014
    IAgree said:

    IAgree said:

    Addickted said:

    IAgree said:

    Chizz said:

    Farage has said that no ex member of the BNP will be allowed to join UKIP. Very smart.

    The only party to have to ban former BNP members from joining
    The only party that has to - hasn't stopped them shamelessly courting ex BNP voters.
    ...and Labour voters and Tory voters ad LibDem voters............

    Change the record.

    Indeed " repeat - we are a non - racist party " (in case anyone gets confused by the policies ) " We won't accept ex BNP members" ( but if you are racist and voted for a unashamedly racist party then welcome aboard).

    "We psychologically screen our candidates" ( in case we recruit too many closet racists and fruitcakes)

    No other party can claim all of theses things - No other party needs to!

    Can you read?
    All the parties need to!
    Then you can see and possibly even understand that all the parties, even your glorious socialists, need to look out for BNP links. All parties try to some extent to filter extremists, even the BNP themselves!
    Why on earth do you think this is just a UKIP thing?
  • The only political meeting I was ever expelled from was one run by those lovely chaps from Militant back in the 80's.

    Not keen on extremists.
  • edited November 2014
    IAgree said:

    The only political meeting I was ever expelled from was one run by those lovely chaps from Militant back in the 80's.

    Not keen on extremists.

    Eh? Me neither.
    #confusedirrelavance

    "Find out for yourself what is truth, what is real. Discover that there are virtuous things and there are non-virtuous things. Once you have discovered for yourself give up the bad and embrace the good."

  • IAgree said:

    The only political meeting I was ever expelled from was one run by those lovely chaps from Militant back in the 80's.

    Not keen on extremists.

    Eh? Me neither.
    #confusedirrelavance

    "Find out for yourself what is truth, what is real. Discover that there are virtuous things and there are non-virtuous things. Once you have discovered for yourself give up the bad and embrace the good."

    Very good
  • Farage has said that no ex member of the BNP will be allowed to join UKIP. Very smart.

    Labour don't ban former communist party members from joining them. Peter Mandelson is an ex red shirt.
    What's your point ?

    Labour could have taken the lead in banning dangerous extremists. They have declined to do so.

    It's a shame that people like chizz kept so quiet about this for so long.
    Dangerous extremists ! The British Communist Party. Lol

    I suggest that you study the history of Russia 1916-1989 abd Eastern Europe 1945-1989
  • Chizz said:


    Farage has said that no ex member of the BNP will be allowed to join UKIP. Very smart.

    Labour don't ban former communist party members from joining them. Peter Mandelson is an ex red shirt.
    What's your point ?

    Labour could have taken the lead in banning dangerous extremists. They have declined to do so.

    It's a shame that people like chizz kept so quiet about this for so long.
    I'm very flattered that you think my views might have been so influential. But let me ask something - which "dangerous extremists" should - and could - have been banned from joining Labour?
    All former members of the communist party.
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