They wernt a bad side at all would win the conference with something to spare and played some nice football with a lot of physical challenges both teams would have had a player sent off first half if it was a league game with cousins knee challenge and there midfielders off the ground two footer that injured johann. Charlton dominated the possession and clearly they was working on playing out from the back, Gomez played right back and looked superb. Solly is here but hasn't kicked a ball in the two training sessions I've seen. He's running very gingerly same With moussa hasn't kicked a ball just been on the bike the whole time. Brilliant facilities at la cala and I'm sure they will use them again next season.
They wernt a bad side at all would win the conference with something to spare and played some nice football with a lot of physical challenges both teams would have had a player sent off first half if it was a league game with cousins knee challenge and there midfielders off the ground two footer that injured johann. Charlton dominated the possession and clearly they was working on playing out from the back, Gomez played right back and looked superb. Solly is here but hasn't kicked a ball in the two training sessions I've seen. He's running very gingerly same With moussa hasn't kicked a ball just been on the bike the whole time. Brilliant facilities at la cala and I'm sure they will use them again next season.
You sure you're there? Cousins didn't play first half.
tbh, friendlies arent really a good predictor of the team, most managers even admit it is just for fitness. however i will judge what this team will be like when we play brentford away. if we do a good job then i think we will see a decent season bar an anomalous result. however i hear we are playing fro mthe back which is good.
I only skim read the friendly chuff matches , good to hear Vetokele get in to so many scoring positions not so good to hear he's got Church's shooting boots on
George sounds like he's doing well enough
And yep it all means jack once the real stuff starts
Sounds like Solly will be a bit part again with his injury probs meaning his wrapped in cotton wool
Can't wait till the season starts so I can hopefully find my Charlton mojo again (he says posting at 5.30am #weirdo )
They wernt a bad side at all would win the conference with something to spare and played some nice football with a lot of physical challenges both teams would have had a player sent off first half if it was a league game with cousins knee challenge and there midfielders off the ground two footer that injured johann. Charlton dominated the possession and clearly they was working on playing out from the back, Gomez played right back and looked superb. Solly is here but hasn't kicked a ball in the two training sessions I've seen. He's running very gingerly same With moussa hasn't kicked a ball just been on the bike the whole time. Brilliant facilities at la cala and I'm sure they will use them again next season.
You sure you're there? Cousins didn't play first half.
Sorry yes I think I'd had a few more beers when posted I stood over the over side from the fans second half and the cousins tackle looked pretty naughty by the byline but then again they should have been down to ten in about 5 minutes. Overall it was a good workout and peeters clearly had them working on set pieces, working out from the back and throw ins down lawries side.
The lad I know from work texted to say he was having a beer with Peeters & the coaching staff after the game. He also said not to build my hopes up for this season. I reminded him I was a Charlton fan and we don't do hope!!
I think we're also a little afraid to say what many are thinking. Just how many games do you think Chris Solly has left in him? I fear the worst and that his injury is more serious than anyone has so far admitted. Having said we don't do it, I really hope I am wrong.
Ben haim started the game and played centre back all the way through to when he was subbed off for bikey, Wilson played right back first half and Gomez second half. Wilson looked like he was limping when he came off, piggott had ice on his ankle and both the other keepers where injured. people that are saying they wernt any good etc. They played some nice football, keeper was decent and had some players that put them selves about I would bet my bottom dollar they would win the conference and maybe even top half league 2.
I can't remember the numbers either haha. But starting was
Pope Wiggins Morrison Ben haim Wilson Gudmonsson Jackson Buyens Harriot Piggott Vetekole
Nego for johann before half time Gomez for Wilson at half time Church for piggott George for vetekole Bikey for Ben haim Fox for wiggins Ansah for harriot Munns for buyens Cousins for jacko
There were a lot of new faces out there. I thought they were much better than when i saw them at welling. I thought Igor played well and no 23 and no 6 too.
The Peeters interview on Player is worth watching. Overall he was very positive, as might be expected, but two things stood out for me.
First, Peeters explained that because Solly was injured and Wilson had played 90 minutes in midweek he asked Gomez to play right back in the second half. He was positively beaming when he said it looked as if Gomez had been playing there for twenty years. "He can play anywhere across the back four" Peeters said. He clearly rates him very, very highly. Doesn't mean he'll start against Brentford, but I've no doubt he'll play first team football this season, the only question is how often. David O'Leary was a regular for Arsenal at just seventeen, so you never know.
Second, Peeters said that he told Joe Pigott to save his goals for the Championship. I was very impressed by Pigott in the League Cup tie against Oxford Utd last August and was disappointed he didn't kick on. Looks like he's going to get another chance this season. I don't think it's any coincidence he's started all three games. Again, this doesn't mean he'll start against Brentford, but he's going to feature, at least early on. Only if he doesn't deliver will he then go out on loan would be my take.
More generally, and perhaps this is merely stating the obvious, if during the first half of the season the side is clearly competitive and clear of the relegation zone, I think we'll then see a lot of experimentation with young players and by that I mean runs of games not just 5 minutes at the end of a 3-0 defeat. I'd expect this to include Ansah, Lennon and Munns and perhaps other too, all with a view to developing the side for a play-off push in 2015-16.
For all we know the coming season might be another struggle because you never know, but with luck we're going to see some good football, a few goals and the development of an exciting young team. I'm really looking forward to it. COYRs!!!!
I like Pigott and think he deserves more of a chance before people write him off. It's harsh to judge him in the Millwall game when he shouldn't have started and the whole team were crap.
In a weird way Pigott being tall is not a great help. He can have a very decent touch on the ground, and unusually for a forward he has the instinct to do something a bit nippy inside the area. A lot of forwards in the box will naturally go straight for goal, and avoid much jiggery pokery, so other players often see a forward as someone you have to set up on goal, and with Joe, the thought is 'tall man, cross, he can head it', (which he is capable of doing), but setting Joe up with other kinds of opportunities may pay dividends.
If Joe had the right partner/collaborator he could be better than a lot of people think.
In a weird way Pigott being tall is not a great help. He can have a very decent touch on the ground, and unusually for a forward he has the instinct to do something a bit nippy inside the area. A lot of forwards in the box will naturally go straight for goal, and avoid much jiggery pokery, so other players often see a forward as someone you have to set up on goal, and with Joe, the thought is 'tall man, cross, he can head it', (which he is capable of doing), but setting Joe up with other kinds of opportunities may pay dividends.
If Joe had the right partner/collaborator he could be better than a lot of people think.
I think you're right there, it's similar to the way Peter Crouch sometimes gets misused when people assume 'tall/powerful = gets on crosses' which is not always the case - 'good feet for a big man' is a cliche but not without basis. I also get the impression that being young and possibly not done growing yet he's still getting used to his own body to an extent, and with time and experience he'll be better able to use his size and strength to his advantage.
A quick personal view of the players over the two games:
Pope - shaky in first game, very confident in second game. Not quite a complete Championship keeper yet, but not far off.
Wiggins - no worries
Morrison - looked rusty and a bit hestitant at the start of game 2, but not overly worried.
Ben haim - you can see this guy has played top class football, he is going to be a big asset.
Wilson - brilliant in first game, subbed in second, no worries
Gudmonsson - lovely touch on the ball, good football brain. Got clattered twice in second game and this is going to happen next season because he is so tricky, exciting.
Jackson - on the tin it says Jacko, and that's what it does. Brilliant run and header for the goal.
Buyens - looked like a fish out of water in game 1 and I thought their might be a language barrier issue, but he was tough-tackling away in the second game and did well.
Harriot - good in first game, drifted in and out of the second and was subbed.
Piggott - no lack of effort, but i just feel it won't happen for him this season, created some excellent chances without the luck to get a goal.
Vetekole - looks a talented striker, wants to shoot. George - looks a real predator, can fed off scraps.
Gomez - Oh Yes Yes Yes !!! Nego - Oh No ! Ansah - Oh Maybe Church - Oh Maybe not.
Bikey - no worries Fox - nice confidence, no worries Munns - failed height test but no lack of effort. Cousins - no worries
I feel a lot better about the squad having watched the 2 games, and I believe we will get a striker and a keeper this week.
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With moussa hasn't kicked a ball just been on the bike the whole time. Brilliant facilities at la cala and I'm sure they will use them again next season.
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Usually we send two people to matches but it's only me out here in Spain - probably why there wasn't as many tweets as usual.
Also there actually wasn't a great deal of action during the second period once the subs were made.
George sounds like he's doing well enough
And yep it all means jack once the real stuff starts
Sounds like Solly will be a bit part again with his injury probs meaning his wrapped in cotton wool
Can't wait till the season starts so I can hopefully find my Charlton mojo again (he says posting at 5.30am #weirdo )
I think we're also a little afraid to say what many are thinking. Just how many games do you think Chris Solly has left in him? I fear the worst and that his injury is more serious than anyone has so far admitted. Having said we don't do it, I really hope I am wrong.
http://www.cafc.co.uk/news/article/20140719-report-charlton-v-atletico-clube-de-portugal-1769666.aspx
Two reports. One saying Gomez played right back in the second half, the other saying Ben Haim...
Pope
Wiggins
Morrison
Ben haim
Wilson
Gudmonsson
Jackson
Buyens
Harriot
Piggott
Vetekole
Nego for johann before half time
Gomez for Wilson at half time
Church for piggott
George for vetekole
Bikey for Ben haim
Fox for wiggins
Ansah for harriot
Munns for buyens
Cousins for jacko
First, Peeters explained that because Solly was injured and Wilson had played 90 minutes in midweek he asked Gomez to play right back in the second half. He was positively beaming when he said it looked as if Gomez had been playing there for twenty years. "He can play anywhere across the back four" Peeters said. He clearly rates him very, very highly. Doesn't mean he'll start against Brentford, but I've no doubt he'll play first team football this season, the only question is how often. David O'Leary was a regular for Arsenal at just seventeen, so you never know.
Second, Peeters said that he told Joe Pigott to save his goals for the Championship. I was very impressed by Pigott in the League Cup tie against Oxford Utd last August and was disappointed he didn't kick on. Looks like he's going to get another chance this season. I don't think it's any coincidence he's started all three games. Again, this doesn't mean he'll start against Brentford, but he's going to feature, at least early on. Only if he doesn't deliver will he then go out on loan would be my take.
More generally, and perhaps this is merely stating the obvious, if during the first half of the season the side is clearly competitive and clear of the relegation zone, I think we'll then see a lot of experimentation with young players and by that I mean runs of games not just 5 minutes at the end of a 3-0 defeat. I'd expect this to include Ansah, Lennon and Munns and perhaps other too, all with a view to developing the side for a play-off push in 2015-16.
For all we know the coming season might be another struggle because you never know, but with luck we're going to see some good football, a few goals and the development of an exciting young team. I'm really looking forward to it. COYRs!!!!
A lot of forwards in the box will naturally go straight for goal, and avoid much jiggery pokery, so other players often see a forward as someone you have to set up on goal, and with Joe, the thought is 'tall man, cross, he can head it', (which he is capable of doing), but setting Joe up with other kinds of opportunities may pay dividends.
If Joe had the right partner/collaborator he could be better than a lot of people think.
Pope - shaky in first game, very confident in second game. Not quite a complete Championship keeper yet, but not far off.
Wiggins - no worries
Morrison - looked rusty and a bit hestitant at the start of game 2, but not overly worried.
Ben haim - you can see this guy has played top class football, he is going to be a big asset.
Wilson - brilliant in first game, subbed in second, no worries
Gudmonsson - lovely touch on the ball, good football brain. Got clattered twice in second game and this is going to happen next season because he is so tricky, exciting.
Jackson - on the tin it says Jacko, and that's what it does. Brilliant run and header for the goal.
Buyens - looked like a fish out of water in game 1 and I thought their might be a language barrier issue, but he was tough-tackling away in the second game and did well.
Harriot - good in first game, drifted in and out of the second and was subbed.
Piggott - no lack of effort, but i just feel it won't happen for him this season, created some excellent chances without the luck to get a goal.
Vetekole - looks a talented striker, wants to shoot.
George - looks a real predator, can fed off scraps.
Gomez - Oh Yes Yes Yes !!!
Nego - Oh No !
Ansah - Oh Maybe
Church - Oh Maybe not.
Bikey - no worries
Fox - nice confidence, no worries
Munns - failed height test but no lack of effort.
Cousins - no worries
I feel a lot better about the squad having watched the 2 games, and I believe we will get a striker and a keeper this week.