The Chris O'Grady saga, although real, came flying onto the internet on the same day that Alex Dyer opened up to the SLP. Hmmmn. Anyway we dodged an expensive bullet there in my view.
Genuine question. Are RD's other teams full of just players swapped between the network or do they sign players from outside of it?
The network didn't exist seven months ago. Not looked at other clubs but Liege appear to have recruitment nailed down with their own academy / soccer schools and a well developed channel to recruit 17 year olds from Africa. Not ITK but I reckon our best bet for a decent striker is a loan from the premier league or Liege...or a striker arriving via this Liege scouting. From rumours and leaks it appears that big front men in the Championship command 12k+ per week or £600k per annum in real money. At least that's what I've read about Kermorgant Fuller and others. I think CAFC should only pay that as a last resort in say August. Perhaps wage demands will have softened by then? Peeters was a championship striker so he's going to know what's needed albeit the championship has improved since he played over here.
Not surprising that COG is not signing. Not that worried as it was another 'Andy Gray' type signing that never looked like it was going to be successful, even if it happened. Do not know where that leaves Charlton in terms of picking up any experienced championship players given that the going rate is way and above.
So SR, Charlton will be waiting until the last minute again to pick up the scraps again ?
I don't understand, everyone admits that we need experienced, quality championship players but no one seems to think we should pay the going rate for them? I hate the business as much as anyone but I also love the club and I do think we need to get a player of the COG mould in, even if it means paying normal championship wages
Perhaps i'm being naive, but i thought part of the process was getting an idea off his agent (directly or indirectly) what sort of ballpark wages, deal etc the player would be looking for, before you get too far into the process ??
Exactly...hence my cynicism on the original thread that the leak of us agreeing terms with Barnsley was yet another sop to fans, with no real intention of making it happen...
Not convinced by him, in any case, but maybe the penny is dropping for RD and co (too late, of course) that YK was actually very good VFM compared to most...
I sincerely doubt RD actually remembers anything about Yann at all, much less cares. It was done, possibly he noted it to himself as an error but that would the very most.
I don't understand, everyone admits that we need experienced, quality championship players but no one seems to think we should pay the going rate for them? I hate the business as much as anyone but I also love the club and I do think we need to get a player of the COG mould in, even if it means paying normal championship wages
If, and I repeat if, the £12k per week is accurate then this is in no way normal Championship wages for a striker who had a reasonable season in a relegated team following seven or eight decidedly average seasons. We will be able to get much better for less and bollox to another money grabbing shyster player and agent.
Don't believe it's 12k COG is after but it's still significantly more than the club were prepared to offer.
On the other hand I imagine it will soon come out that RD's top offer was around 50p/week, because he never really wants to sign anyone ever, the troll.
It's sad that it's got to the point that this is the case, but in my opinion O'Grady is a very good striker, a lot better than what we've got, and for a player like that you will be paying near 10k. I don't actually think he's asked for 12 personally
Not surprising that COG is not signing. Not that worried as it was another 'Andy Gray' type signing that never looked like it was going to be successful, even if it happened. Do not know where that leaves Charlton in terms of picking up any experienced championship players given that the going rate is way and above.
So SR, Charlton will be waiting until the last minute again to pick up the scraps again ?
Let's be very clear - last summer was all about Jiminez and Slater not wanting to inject (not invest!) any more money into CAFC. The year before I think they brough in Fuller in September? I think I've posted before but the big TV money arrives in August and January... so June and July were very expensive months for the previous owners. That's why we (and Powell) had to wait until the last minute. This time Duchatelet has the cash to do the right things according to the strategy he sets out. And if he wants to sell more £250 season tickets to the undecided then he had better ensure that the squad shapes up sooner rather than later.
I'm really hoping for three things up front: We can get Sordell back; Harriott can be converted to a forward and we get someone decent in on loan. Not only do I not think we will splash out silly wages on second tier strikers but I suspect there are clubs out there who will so prices and wages won't drop. The whole transfer market in the Championship may shift in January if a few clubs face a registration embargo due to FFP - more on that later.
If we don't get anyone decent on loan from Liege or through the network scouting then that will leave a big question mark. For this appears to be the way that Duchatelet and Meire want to save money compared to typical championship clubs. Basically if they come in from the network they shouldn't be commanding telephone numbers and there are no agents involved playing the field for instance using Charlton as a stage to promote their wares.
I don't understand, everyone admits that we need experienced, quality championship players but no one seems to think we should pay the going rate for them? I hate the business as much as anyone but I also love the club and I do think we need to get a player of the COG mould in, even if it means paying normal championship wages
What do you mean nobody thinks we should pay the going rate for them? What is the going rate? What should we be offering COG?
Perhaps our offer wasn't up to it....or perhaps cos COG has had a good season he thinks he suddenly worth more than what he thinks
If he doesn't want to put on a Charlton shirt then as I said 'f*ck him'
If it was £12k a week (and I'm not sure I'm convinced it was) and he was on a 2 year deal then that's £1.7m including the transfer fee which seems utter madness for COG who hasn't exactly set the word on fire during his career.
Can we though? Yet to be convinced, a signing like this would be higher than my current expectations in terms of experience/scoring ability in the Championship tbh
Be interested to hear the truth to what CoG was asking for, one little rumour on Charltonlife may be far from the truth
Not surprising that COG is not signing. Not that worried as it was another 'Andy Gray' type signing that never looked like it was going to be successful, even if it happened. Do not know where that leaves Charlton in terms of picking up any experienced championship players given that the going rate is way and above.
So SR, Charlton will be waiting until the last minute again to pick up the scraps again ?
No, of course not. Katrien has promised that the majority of our transfer business will be done by the end of June remember.
There are Prem players (first team players) on less than £12k per week. The average (mean) Prem salary is around £35-40k per week - the median nearer £15-20k - the median Championship salary is £6-10k per week (that's HALF A MILLION POUNDS PER YEAR folks). There are some on more of course but that's the nature of averages! and there are some on less - and the average is raised by the likes of QPR and Leicester and the relegated teams who are stuck with big contracts. A lot of people on here have over inflated ideas about what most professional footballers earn.
There are Prem players (first team players) on less than £12k per week. The average (mean) Prem salary is around £35-40k per week - the median nearer £15-20k - the median Championship salary is £6-10k per week (that's HALF A MILLION POUNDS PER YEAR folks). There are some on more of course but that's the nature of averages! and there are some on less - and the average is raised by the likes of QPR and Leicester and the relegated teams who are stuck with big contracts. A lot of people on here have over inflated ideas about what most professional footballers earn.
And on this I can claim to be ITK.
Agree with this. Some very inflated numbers being bandied around, but understandably perhaps.
Not surprising that COG is not signing. Not that worried as it was another 'Andy Gray' type signing that never looked like it was going to be successful, even if it happened. Do not know where that leaves Charlton in terms of picking up any experienced championship players given that the going rate is way and above.
So SR, Charlton will be waiting until the last minute again to pick up the scraps again ?
No, of course not. Katrien has promised that the majority of our transfer business will be done by the end of June remember.
There are Prem players (first team players) on less than £12k per week. The average (mean) Prem salary is around £35-40k per week - the median nearer £15-20k - the median Championship salary is £6-10k per week (that's HALF A MILLION POUNDS PER YEAR folks). There are some on more of course but that's the nature of averages! and there are some on less - and the average is raised by the likes of QPR and Leicester and the relegated teams who are stuck with big contracts. A lot of people on here have over inflated ideas about what most professional footballers earn.
And on this I can claim to be ITK.
Thank God. Sanity at last!
Some of the wages that get bandied around here at times are absolutely laughable I remember someone on here claiming once that Di Canio was on 25K per week at Charlton - madness!
I think I am correct in saying that our top-earners in the Premiership days were on around the 13K per week mark - that was for the likes of Parker.
12k pw is not an amount so far from the truth where negs start that's not to say that's all they would accept
I don't think cog would've joined for anyless than 9/10 based on wanting a decent rise and having to live with London prices
I know for a fact we offered a player we didn't get whilst in the first term of slater and big tone andvin league 1, 5 k per week and that as they say on charlton life Is a Fact
1. Offered a damn sight more than at Barnsley. 2. Chance to escape a relegated club. 3. Chance to move to London. 4. Chance to be part of a bigger club embarking on a new project with (hopefully) premiership ambitions. 5. Chance to play for a club where the supporters worship you if you do well and give you slack/time if you initially struggle. 6. Chance to play for the best club in the World.
Now if none of this was enough to persuade him, f*** 'im I say.
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Hmmmn.
Anyway we dodged an expensive bullet there in my view.
Not ITK but I reckon our best bet for a decent striker is a loan from the premier league or Liege...or a striker arriving via this Liege scouting.
From rumours and leaks it appears that big front men in the Championship command 12k+ per week or £600k per annum in real money. At least that's what I've read about Kermorgant Fuller and others. I think CAFC should only pay that as a last resort in say August. Perhaps wage demands will have softened by then?
Peeters was a championship striker so he's going to know what's needed albeit the championship has improved since he played over here.
So SR, Charlton will be waiting until the last minute again to pick up the scraps again ?
I'm really hoping for three things up front: We can get Sordell back; Harriott can be converted to a forward and we get someone decent in on loan. Not only do I not think we will splash out silly wages on second tier strikers but I suspect there are clubs out there who will so prices and wages won't drop. The whole transfer market in the Championship may shift in January if a few clubs face a registration embargo due to FFP - more on that later.
If we don't get anyone decent on loan from Liege or through the network scouting then that will leave a big question mark. For this appears to be the way that Duchatelet and Meire want to save money compared to typical championship clubs. Basically if they come in from the network they shouldn't be commanding telephone numbers and there are no agents involved playing the field for instance using Charlton as a stage to promote their wares.
Perhaps our offer wasn't up to it....or perhaps cos COG has had a good season he thinks he suddenly worth more than what he thinks
If he doesn't want to put on a Charlton shirt then as I said 'f*ck him'
Be interested to hear the truth to what CoG was asking for, one little rumour on Charltonlife may be far from the truth
And on this I can claim to be ITK.
If so, that is madness.
Some of the wages that get bandied around here at times are absolutely laughable I remember someone on here claiming once that Di Canio was on 25K per week at Charlton - madness!
I think I am correct in saying that our top-earners in the Premiership days were on around the 13K per week mark - that was for the likes of Parker.
Others on less ie Jon fortune on 9k
I still have the spreadsheets somewhere in the loft.
I don't think cog would've joined for anyless than 9/10 based on wanting a decent rise and having to live with London prices
I know for a fact we offered a player we didn't get whilst in the first term of slater and big tone andvin league 1, 5 k per week and that as they say on charlton life Is a Fact
2. Chance to escape a relegated club.
3. Chance to move to London.
4. Chance to be part of a bigger club embarking on a new project with (hopefully) premiership ambitions.
5. Chance to play for a club where the supporters worship you if you do well and give you slack/time if you initially struggle.
6. Chance to play for the best club in the World.
Now if none of this was enough to persuade him, f*** 'im I say.
His loss.