I was saying it’s refreshing compared to the usual antics of pretending you want to do all of the above, which have all the same concequences you mentioned anyway.
As a passer by I’d rather walk past two groups having a punch up, than walk past the usual scene of a 100 numpties behind police lines pretending they want to fight, but instead just posturing, rushing at the police and throwing things - far more dangerous to innocents.
So just so i am clear, you would rather your (not literal "your") 80 year old grandparents were sat inside their flat seeing it unfold outside their windows or your missus and young children would walk past 2 groups of grown adults fighting in public in the street in the middle of the day than standing there (equally dimwittedly) shouting and throwing things?
Yes, you could easily avoid being in that walled area if you didn’t want to be. Walk the other way, hold back, cross the road etc. Everyone in the clip was there for a reason and anyone sensible would be giving it a wide berth. I know there is always an unfortunate exception.
But when idiots are lobbing pint glasses, bottles and coins etc indiscrimanently through the air, then yes I know what situation I’d rather be around.
Whats even more moronic is when you have absolute tosspots following England who throw bottles etc in the air for “fun”.
Yes, you could easily avoid being in that walled area if you didn’t want to be. Walk the other way, hold back, cross the road etc. Everyone in the clip was there for a reason and anyone sensible would be giving it a wide berth. I know there is always an unfortunate exception.
But when idiots are lobbing pint glasses, bottles and coins etc indiscrimanently through the air, then yes I know what situation I’d rather be around.
Whats even more moronic is when you have absolute tosspots following England who throw bottles etc in the air for “fun”.
They're underneath a block of residential flats aren't they on a public street....why the fuck should the public divert their days in anyway whatsoever because a clan of cockwombles want to have an embarrassingly third rate punch up?
Why don't they go to the woods to do it where they'll be left alone? Same morons will be the first to complain about the rude boys running wild on their streets and asian gangs etc that have punch ups in public whilst lacking the complete sense of self awareness of what they are doing is the same.
Well at least things have improved, I remember going to Millwall Vs Everton at the old Den in the 80’s and it was the whole of the home fans singing this!
That was the 80's revisited: pre match fight, ugly faces, mandatory wanker signs, brave police horses, macho poses, peaky blinders, racist chants, 8 hours of drinking, obscene language, monsoon weather, more ugly faces, muddy pitches, people standing, sarf London and Scouse blending into Neanderthal grunts, brave police dogs, even more ugly faces, soaked to the skin, piss where you stand, brave police men and women, children held in arms while dad swears in harmony, quasimodo dopelgangers, satan's playground, Fagin's gang and borstal's finest.
Welcome to Millwall's Dystopian past, present and future.
You’re right, it shouldn’t happen full stop, but it does.
But having walked out the new den the time the walkway was out and both them and ours were whizzing things through the air, with normal fans on both sides present, but with no intention of getting close enough to each other to get hurt themselves, it was refreshing for me that these ones did.
I understand you don’t get that/agree with the point, which is fair enough. Apologies for derailing.
You’re right, it shouldn’t happen full stop, but it does.
But having walked out the new den the time the walkway was out and both them and ours were whizzing things through the air, with normal fans on both sides present, but with no intention of getting close enough to each other to get hurt themselves, it was refreshing for me that these ones did.
I understand you don’t get that/agree with the point, which is fair enough. Apologies for derailing.
The atmosphere I experienced tonight, nothing like that. If my dad had took me to the valley as a kid, I’d have got bored and stopped going. If my dad had took me to selhurst I’d have been embarrassed and stopped going.
Thank god for Millwall
Thought you were a bit more intelligent than the load of bollocks you just wrote.
If the FA wish to retain any credibility in their much vaunted campaign against racism in football they have to punish Millwall very severely for those “paki” chants. It will be a very sad day for British football if they do not take action.
If the FA wish to retain any credibility in their much vaunted campaign against racism in football they have to punish Millwall very severely for those “paki” chants. It will be a very sad day for British football if they do not take action.
I was saying it’s refreshing compared to the usual antics of pretending you want to do all of the above, which have all the same concequences you mentioned anyway.
As a passer by I’d rather walk past two groups having a punch up, than walk past the usual scene of a 100 numpties behind police lines pretending they want to fight, but instead just posturing, rushing at the police and throwing things - far more dangerous to innocents.
A bit like that organised stuff you get in the likes of Russia and Ukraine...though they tend to find a wooded area or a park to thrash things out.
If the FA wish to retain any credibility in their much vaunted campaign against racism in football they have to punish Millwall very severely for those “paki” chants. It will be a very sad day for British football if they do not take action.
I have Millwall in the family and spent a fair amount of my formative years surrounded by Millwall fans and drinking in Millwall pubs....
The ones I know have all been decent - they play up to the stereotype but I can have a laugh with them. However, scratch not far beneath the surface and there is an element of "pride by association" with the genuine cnuts that represent a significant minority (small majority?) of their support.
I'd like to think that the ones I know would condemn knife attacks, racist chanting and the widespread and regular disruption their Bermondsey / Welling chavs create. The problem is that a significant minority (small majority?) of Millwall fans in general revel in this stuff.
The old bag in the film, presumably the kid’s grandmother, now this video is out in the open will give Millwall football club a good chance to uphold this statement they’ve put out about racism
It was following the chants about scousers and Pakistanis. They said that anyone found guilty of racism will receive bans. Obviously in this case they can’t ban that little kid, as he’s obviously been brainwashed, but that old dog is surely recognisable and can be banned.
I have Millwall in the family and spent a fair amount of my formative years surrounded by Millwall fans and drinking in Millwall pubs....
The ones I know have all been decent - they play up to the stereotype but I can have a laugh with them. However, scratch not far beneath the surface and there is an element of "pride by association" with the genuine cnuts that represent a significant minority (small majority?) of their support.
I'd like to think that the ones I know would condemn knife attacks, racist chanting and the widespread and regular disruption their Bermondsey / Welling chavs create. The problem is that a significant minority (small majority?) of Millwall fans in general revel in this stuff.
If we had a fanbase like the spanners the Belgians would have been run out of town long ago.
I have Millwall in the family and spent a fair amount of my formative years surrounded by Millwall fans and drinking in Millwall pubs....
The ones I know have all been decent - they play up to the stereotype but I can have a laugh with them. However, scratch not far beneath the surface and there is an element of "pride by association" with the genuine cnuts that represent a significant minority (small majority?) of their support.
I'd like to think that the ones I know would condemn knife attacks, racist chanting and the widespread and regular disruption their Bermondsey / Welling chavs create. The problem is that a significant minority (small majority?) of Millwall fans in general revel in this stuff.
If we had a fanbase like the spanners the Belgians would have been run out of town long ago.
But would they have been that bothered? For any number of reasons, they are less politicised and less pro-active than Charlton fans (thank god).
I have Millwall in the family and spent a fair amount of my formative years surrounded by Millwall fans and drinking in Millwall pubs....
The ones I know have all been decent - they play up to the stereotype but I can have a laugh with them. However, scratch not far beneath the surface and there is an element of "pride by association" with the genuine cnuts that represent a significant minority (small majority?) of their support.
I'd like to think that the ones I know would condemn knife attacks, racist chanting and the widespread and regular disruption their Bermondsey / Welling chavs create. The problem is that a significant minority (small majority?) of Millwall fans in general revel in this stuff.
If we had a fanbase like the spanners the Belgians would have been run out of town long ago.
But would they have been that bothered? For any number of reasons, they are less politicised and less pro-active than Charlton fans (thank god).
Maybe so, we'll never know.
Throwing bricks rather than pigs and balloons may have had more effect.
I have Millwall in the family and spent a fair amount of my formative years surrounded by Millwall fans and drinking in Millwall pubs....
The ones I know have all been decent - they play up to the stereotype but I can have a laugh with them. However, scratch not far beneath the surface and there is an element of "pride by association" with the genuine cnuts that represent a significant minority (small majority?) of their support.
I'd like to think that the ones I know would condemn knife attacks, racist chanting and the widespread and regular disruption their Bermondsey / Welling chavs create. The problem is that a significant minority (small majority?) of Millwall fans in general revel in this stuff.
If we had a fanbase like the spanners the Belgians would have been run out of town long ago.
But would they have been that bothered? For any number of reasons, they are less politicised and less pro-active than Charlton fans (thank god).
Maybe so, we'll never know.
Throwing bricks rather than pigs and balloons may have had more effect.
I have Millwall in the family and spent a fair amount of my formative years surrounded by Millwall fans and drinking in Millwall pubs....
The ones I know have all been decent - they play up to the stereotype but I can have a laugh with them. However, scratch not far beneath the surface and there is an element of "pride by association" with the genuine cnuts that represent a significant minority (small majority?) of their support.
I'd like to think that the ones I know would condemn knife attacks, racist chanting and the widespread and regular disruption their Bermondsey / Welling chavs create. The problem is that a significant minority (small majority?) of Millwall fans in general revel in this stuff.
If we had a fanbase like the spanners the Belgians would have been run out of town long ago.
But would they have been that bothered? For any number of reasons, they are less politicised and less pro-active than Charlton fans (thank god).
Also as most of them are as thick as shit they would probably think he was doing a splendid job.
The old bag in the film, presumably the kid’s grandmother, now this video is out in the open will give Millwall football club a good chance to uphold this statement they’ve put out about racism
I know the tweet is from today but that video's old, maybe from around the time they knocked Leicester out a year or two ago. It's probably somewhere else on this thread if you look back far enough. To be fair to the football club, not sure what they can do about someone doing that in the back of their car - if they're identified then they can ban the old hag from attending games, but I doubt she's a regular match-goer anyway. You'd like to think social services might take an interest though, that lad's got no chance growing up in a family like that.
Going back to yesterday's game, amidst a backdrop of pre-match violence and racist chanting during the game, obviously Talksport made a strong stand against all of that by allowing Stuart Pearce and Sam Matterface to spend the entire game painting a picture of loveable rogues and cheeky chappies - "you wouldn't dare ask for a prawn sandwich down The Den", etc, etc. Yawn.
Was anybody really shocked though ? This happens with a monotonous regularity every couple of seasons or so. The club are stuffed. They try to keep a lid on it but every so often a fixture like this pops up and the scum of the fan base rises to the surface and it boils over. I even doubt half of those giving it large even go regularly. The Cnut filter thing is not so much a joke but a real blessing. It’s a scummy football club but not all their fans are bad. Agree with poster further up. Even the decent ones have a sneaking pride of their reputation.
Personally I couldn’t dislike a football club any more if I tried.
Was it Everton fans attacked Charlton with knives and hatchets on the way back from an away match (Walsall?) at the motorway services back in the 70’s A few Charlton had stab wounds when they returned to the coach
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But when idiots are lobbing pint glasses, bottles and coins etc indiscrimanently through the air, then yes I know what situation I’d rather be around.
Whats even more moronic is when you have absolute tosspots following England who throw bottles etc in the air for “fun”.
Why don't they go to the woods to do it where they'll be left alone? Same morons will be the first to complain about the rude boys running wild on their streets and asian gangs etc that have punch ups in public whilst lacking the complete sense of self awareness of what they are doing is the same.
Tragic.
pre match fight, ugly faces, mandatory wanker signs, brave police horses, macho poses, peaky blinders, racist chants, 8 hours of drinking, obscene language, monsoon weather, more ugly faces, muddy pitches, people standing, sarf London and Scouse blending into Neanderthal grunts, brave police dogs, even more ugly faces, soaked to the skin, piss where you stand, brave police men and women, children held in arms while dad swears in harmony, quasimodo dopelgangers, satan's playground, Fagin's gang and borstal's finest.
Welcome to Millwall's Dystopian past, present and future.
But having walked out the new den the time the walkway was out and both them and ours were whizzing things through the air, with normal fans on both sides present, but with no intention of getting close enough to each other to get hurt themselves, it was refreshing for me that these ones did.
I understand you don’t get that/agree with the point, which is fair enough. Apologies for derailing.
Admirable parenting there too
How about when we actually won the FA Cup? Ever done that before?
The ones I know have all been decent - they play up to the stereotype but I can have a laugh with them. However, scratch not far beneath the surface and there is an element of "pride by association" with the genuine cnuts that represent a significant minority (small majority?) of their support.
I'd like to think that the ones I know would condemn knife attacks, racist chanting and the widespread and regular disruption their Bermondsey / Welling chavs create. The problem is that a significant minority (small majority?) of Millwall fans in general revel in this stuff.
It was following the chants about scousers and Pakistanis. They said that anyone found guilty of racism will receive bans. Obviously in this case they can’t ban that little kid, as he’s obviously been brainwashed, but that old dog is surely recognisable and can be banned.
Throwing bricks rather than pigs and balloons may have had more effect.
Going back to yesterday's game, amidst a backdrop of pre-match violence and racist chanting during the game, obviously Talksport made a strong stand against all of that by allowing Stuart Pearce and Sam Matterface to spend the entire game painting a picture of loveable rogues and cheeky chappies - "you wouldn't dare ask for a prawn sandwich down The Den", etc, etc. Yawn.
Personally I couldn’t dislike a football club any more if I tried.
Just miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii pricks