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Diego Poyet's contract situation **DieGONE - Signs for West Ham)**

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  • I think it's fairly likely he was advised against revealing the truth so he didn't look unprofessional in his departure.

    If some rumours are true, the truth could have been a little damning towards CAFC so keeping quiet may also have been out of respect for us, rather than sounding off about things the club did that may stir up unrest among the fans etc.
  • I think it's fairly likely he was advised against revealing the truth so he didn't look unprofessional in his departure.

    If some rumours are true, the truth could have been a little damning towards CAFC so keeping quiet may also have been out of respect for us, rather than sounding off about things the club did that may stir up unrest among the fans etc.

    Yes I heard Luca Brasi held a gun to his head and said either your signature or your brains will be on that contract.

    Well, it's as good a rumour as all the other bullshit rumours.
  • Plaaayer said:

    He's the one that said the was going to 'reveal all', no one else. If there's nothing to say why didn't he just leave it and say nothing?

    Because he is a 19 year old lad with emotions running high with 100s angry Charlton brats abusing him on Twitter. He has probably had a rethink and decided against it, as its not important anymore.

    We have all said things that we would do and then haven't done it, especially at 19. The only difference here being there is a load of fake outrage trolls roaming around pretending to be upset.
  • mrbligh said:

    Dazzler21 said:

    boggzy said:

    DeeBee said:

    boggzy said:

    He'll play prem games for them this season, while wistfully lamenting the fact that he's not playing Rochdale alongside the talents of Michael Morrison and Loic Negó.

    I don't get it? Are you implying someone that's played solidly for 3 seasons isn't very good or that Nego will play just as many games as Morro. Bit of a weird thing to say
    I'm just saying that it can't be denied that Poyet was head and shoulders above nearly everyone else in the team, in terms of natural talent. He wouldn't relish playing alongside limited players for another season when there was a chance of playing alongside better, and in the prem.
    LOL, Could see him doing a Joe Hart if he still had his hair...

    However his effort was above that of others... not his skill.
    Who was better than him?

    I think the unnecessary hatred is clouding people's judgement a bit. He was fecking class
    I would say his skills were even to those of his colleagues to be honest. I only saw 5 games of his and his effort and desire to win were far better than his skill.
  • shine166 said:

    West ham have a preseason tournament being shown on quest this weekend, if anyone is interested in seeing how he fits in that team ATM.

    Schalke, Malaga and Newcastle are the other teams
  • Dazzler21 said:

    mrbligh said:

    Dazzler21 said:

    boggzy said:

    DeeBee said:

    boggzy said:

    He'll play prem games for them this season, while wistfully lamenting the fact that he's not playing Rochdale alongside the talents of Michael Morrison and Loic Negó.

    I don't get it? Are you implying someone that's played solidly for 3 seasons isn't very good or that Nego will play just as many games as Morro. Bit of a weird thing to say
    I'm just saying that it can't be denied that Poyet was head and shoulders above nearly everyone else in the team, in terms of natural talent. He wouldn't relish playing alongside limited players for another season when there was a chance of playing alongside better, and in the prem.
    LOL, Could see him doing a Joe Hart if he still had his hair...

    However his effort was above that of others... not his skill.
    Who was better than him?

    I think the unnecessary hatred is clouding people's judgement a bit. He was fecking class
    I would say his skills were even to those of his colleagues to be honest. I only saw 5 games of his and his effort and desire to win were far better than his skill.
    at the end of the year his colleagues got moves to MK Dons, Bolton, Orient, Walsall, Doncaster and one got a "big" move to Leicester...

    Poyet went to West Ham, there is no comparison!
  • edited August 2014
    mrbligh said:

    Dazzler21 said:

    mrbligh said:

    Dazzler21 said:

    boggzy said:

    DeeBee said:

    boggzy said:

    He'll play prem games for them this season, while wistfully lamenting the fact that he's not playing Rochdale alongside the talents of Michael Morrison and Loic Negó.

    I don't get it? Are you implying someone that's played solidly for 3 seasons isn't very good or that Nego will play just as many games as Morro. Bit of a weird thing to say
    I'm just saying that it can't be denied that Poyet was head and shoulders above nearly everyone else in the team, in terms of natural talent. He wouldn't relish playing alongside limited players for another season when there was a chance of playing alongside better, and in the prem.
    LOL, Could see him doing a Joe Hart if he still had his hair...

    However his effort was above that of others... not his skill.
    Who was better than him?

    I think the unnecessary hatred is clouding people's judgement a bit. He was fecking class
    I would say his skills were even to those of his colleagues to be honest. I only saw 5 games of his and his effort and desire to win were far better than his skill.
    at the end of the year his colleagues got moves to MK Dons, Bolton, Orient, Walsall, Doncaster and one got a "big" move to Leicester...

    Poyet went to West Ham, there is no comparison!
    How many times did Poyet play with Green, Pritch, Cook or Evina,
    Poyet was a first team starter who the club wanted to keep, the rest bit part players who the club wanted to let go
    you cant compare them
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  • Dazzler21 said:

    mrbligh said:

    Dazzler21 said:

    boggzy said:

    DeeBee said:

    boggzy said:

    He'll play prem games for them this season, while wistfully lamenting the fact that he's not playing Rochdale alongside the talents of Michael Morrison and Loic Negó.

    I don't get it? Are you implying someone that's played solidly for 3 seasons isn't very good or that Nego will play just as many games as Morro. Bit of a weird thing to say
    I'm just saying that it can't be denied that Poyet was head and shoulders above nearly everyone else in the team, in terms of natural talent. He wouldn't relish playing alongside limited players for another season when there was a chance of playing alongside better, and in the prem.
    LOL, Could see him doing a Joe Hart if he still had his hair...

    However his effort was above that of others... not his skill.
    Who was better than him?

    I think the unnecessary hatred is clouding people's judgement a bit. He was fecking class
    I would say his skills were even to those of his colleagues to be honest. I only saw 5 games of his and his effort and desire to win were far better than his skill.
    He was better than most others in the side and was one of our best players. But he wasn't "fecking class". He was composed on the ball and hard in the tackle, but fecking class is Scott Parker, Chris Solly and Jonjo Shelvey level, when they clearly are a special talent and would be (and were) unreplaceable in terms of their talent. Getting a transfer to a top prem team is justifiable, but not one that will probably be clinging on to their premier league status again this season and being 4th or 5th choice in their position.
  • Hard to tell if he was better or not, he only played 20 games in a struggling side. Didn't score a goal and I only remember 1 assist.

    Of course, that didn't stop Diego Charlie Big Potatoes from thinking he was better than Bowyer, Parker and Shelvey combined!
  • edited August 2014
    Missed It said:

    Hard to tell if he was better or not, he only played 20 games in a struggling side. Didn't score a goal and I only remember 1 assist.

    Of course, that didn't stop Diego Charlie Big Potatoes from thinking he was better than Bowyer, Parker and Shelvey combined!

    Nowhere near the level any of them were with us in my opinion.
  • Dazzler21 said:

    mrbligh said:

    Dazzler21 said:

    boggzy said:

    DeeBee said:

    boggzy said:

    He'll play prem games for them this season, while wistfully lamenting the fact that he's not playing Rochdale alongside the talents of Michael Morrison and Loic Negó.

    I don't get it? Are you implying someone that's played solidly for 3 seasons isn't very good or that Nego will play just as many games as Morro. Bit of a weird thing to say
    I'm just saying that it can't be denied that Poyet was head and shoulders above nearly everyone else in the team, in terms of natural talent. He wouldn't relish playing alongside limited players for another season when there was a chance of playing alongside better, and in the prem.
    LOL, Could see him doing a Joe Hart if he still had his hair...

    However his effort was above that of others... not his skill.
    Who was better than him?

    I think the unnecessary hatred is clouding people's judgement a bit. He was fecking class
    I would say his skills were even to those of his colleagues to be honest. I only saw 5 games of his and his effort and desire to win were far better than his skill.
    He was better than most others in the side and was one of our best players. But he wasn't "fecking class". He was composed on the ball and hard in the tackle, but fecking class is Scott Parker, Chris Solly and Jonjo Shelvey level, when they clearly are a special talent and would be (and were) unreplaceable in terms of their talent. Getting a transfer to a top prem team is justifiable, but not one that will probably be clinging on to their premier league status again this season and being 4th or 5th choice in their position.
    You're saying he's not that great but would say its justifiable for him to go to a top team where he'd be a lot further down the pecking order ..... They all find their level eventually and he's taken a step up the ladder , make him right even if he didn't wanna give us a £2m bunce and come out saying what a tough wrench it was to leave us ....
  • Shelvey did it in League One, Bowyer did it in the mid 1990s.

    @Missed It you may only remember 1 assist, but do you remember him winning Player of The Year, which the fans voted for? Must have done something...But of course, now he has left he wasn't that good anyway right?

    Players we had 5-15 years ago aren't relevant anyway really - Poyet was our best player up until 2 months ago. Saying "Bowyer was better" means sod all, because all of those players left us within the space of about 2 years of regular first team football anyway, and it was years ago. Completely irrelevant.

    I still think Poyet will go on to be better than both Shelvey and Bowyer by some stretch.
  • I think Poyet was better in a Charlton shirt than Shelvey in the 20 games i saw him. Still doesnt detract from the fact i think he's a little dick now.
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  • I'm not saying he wasn't any good. I'm just saying the games played didn't really give me chance to judge him in comparison with the others. I only saw the home games, where he stood out amongst a struggling side on a really bad pitch.

    I don't deny he is a decent player right now, strong in the tackle, good pace and energy, accurate passing (though not necessarily penetrating with a lot of it). He will go on to have a good career, sadly with another team.

    You can't put him in the same frame as Bowyer, Parker and Shelvey who in my opinion had a bigger impact on the Charlton teams they played in. He wasn't here longer enough and couldn't wait to get out of here.
  • edited August 2014
    I never saw much of Shelvey but it's hard, if not impossible, to compare different types of midfield players. Poyet, arguably, has the most potential as few players have that much time on the ball and even fewer at that age.

    He will need to play in the right team just as Parker and Shelvey needed to be in the right team. He certainly had something special, although he didn't rip teams apart.

    It will hinge on whether he gets a sharper edge to his game and can do it all at a higher level. However, he is certainly one heck of a talented player.
  • wasn't included in the Sun dream team listings when I looked this morning
  • mrbligh said:

    Dazzler21 said:

    mrbligh said:

    Dazzler21 said:

    boggzy said:

    DeeBee said:

    boggzy said:

    He'll play prem games for them this season, while wistfully lamenting the fact that he's not playing Rochdale alongside the talents of Michael Morrison and Loic Negó.

    I don't get it? Are you implying someone that's played solidly for 3 seasons isn't very good or that Nego will play just as many games as Morro. Bit of a weird thing to say
    I'm just saying that it can't be denied that Poyet was head and shoulders above nearly everyone else in the team, in terms of natural talent. He wouldn't relish playing alongside limited players for another season when there was a chance of playing alongside better, and in the prem.
    LOL, Could see him doing a Joe Hart if he still had his hair...

    However his effort was above that of others... not his skill.
    Who was better than him?

    I think the unnecessary hatred is clouding people's judgement a bit. He was fecking class
    I would say his skills were even to those of his colleagues to be honest. I only saw 5 games of his and his effort and desire to win were far better than his skill.
    at the end of the year his colleagues got moves to MK Dons, Bolton, Orient, Walsall, Doncaster and one got a "big" move to Leicester...

    Poyet went to West Ham, there is no comparison!
    How many times did Poyet play with Green, Pritch, Cook or Evina,
    Poyet was a first team starter who the club wanted to keep, the rest bit part players who the club wanted to let go
    you cant compare them
    how many of his charlton colleagues that he played with got moves to premier league clubs then?
  • mrbligh said:

    mrbligh said:

    Dazzler21 said:

    mrbligh said:

    Dazzler21 said:

    boggzy said:

    DeeBee said:

    boggzy said:

    He'll play prem games for them this season, while wistfully lamenting the fact that he's not playing Rochdale alongside the talents of Michael Morrison and Loic Negó.

    I don't get it? Are you implying someone that's played solidly for 3 seasons isn't very good or that Nego will play just as many games as Morro. Bit of a weird thing to say
    I'm just saying that it can't be denied that Poyet was head and shoulders above nearly everyone else in the team, in terms of natural talent. He wouldn't relish playing alongside limited players for another season when there was a chance of playing alongside better, and in the prem.
    LOL, Could see him doing a Joe Hart if he still had his hair...

    However his effort was above that of others... not his skill.
    Who was better than him?

    I think the unnecessary hatred is clouding people's judgement a bit. He was fecking class
    I would say his skills were even to those of his colleagues to be honest. I only saw 5 games of his and his effort and desire to win were far better than his skill.
    at the end of the year his colleagues got moves to MK Dons, Bolton, Orient, Walsall, Doncaster and one got a "big" move to Leicester...

    Poyet went to West Ham, there is no comparison!
    How many times did Poyet play with Green, Pritch, Cook or Evina,
    Poyet was a first team starter who the club wanted to keep, the rest bit part players who the club wanted to let go
    you cant compare them
    how many of his charlton colleagues that he played with got moves to premier league clubs then?
    Because he is a good player, but my point was you are saying he must of been great because other players moved to league 1 or league 2

    but they were players we did not want to keep, and Poyet had no contract, do u honestly think if he did he would of moved, the reason no-one else has moved to the prem is because we are not forced into selling them

    and if you want to talk about players playing in the prem now, Marvin Sordell has just moved there, was he the 2nd best player at Charlton last season, no is the answer

    and before someone has a go at me for "jumping down your throat" or something crap like that

    the point I am making is yes he was a decent player for us, and yes he won player of the season,
    but IMO he was not the best player(my vote went to Wilson) and its unfair to say he was clearly the best player because he is now playing in the prem
  • edited August 2014
    cafctom said:


    @Missed It you may only remember 1 assist, but do you remember him winning Player of The Year, which the fans voted for? Must have done something...

    Many have short memories...

    I haven't once said he isn't good. I have said his energy, passion and work rate make him good.

    He was better than pritch who was carried from non league to championship with the same traits before getting found out.

    Difference being in 2-3 years Poyet will have improved (pritch is past being able to improve in the same leap required to play Premiership) enough to be premiership. Right now he is a high level championship quality player.
  • Starting on the right of a 3 of a 4-2-3-1 formation, seems to be to forward for him
  • Played the full 90 minutes in a win against Schalke. Scored in the penalty shootout at the end.

    West Ham fans raving about him on Twitter.
  • cafctom said:

    Played the full 90 minutes in a win against Schalke. Scored in the penalty shootout at the end.

    West Ham fans raving about him on Twitter.

    I saw that I watched the full game, thought he was average really, cant remember the commentators saying his name once
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