I wasn't advocating giving him that contract. More a case of, in a roundabout way, highlighting the ridiculously large chasm between rich and poor in English football.
400k for Poyet is what? Two weeks wages for Yaya Toure? It's unfathomable.
It would be nice if a few signings were made do we all and potent could see the direction that the club was going in and the likelihood of a promotion push, mid table run or relegation battle. I am sure these scenarios would influence any decision not currently made
In my defence, I am made the comment I did as a Valley Gold member - not an apologist for the previous regime. Also, a supporter who saw what Jonjo Shelvey did. My comment was based on what Poyet could do for the fans. Now I accept there isn't much sentiment in this mercenary game but Jonjo - a West Ham fan showed a bit of class IMO. A player who finds himself in a similar position could do the same, so I have concluded that IF he doesn't, his actions would warrant the opposite description of Shelvey's. If he stays, will I have egg on my face but would love the taste of it. Of course I would - but nobody can seriously believe that will happen now. He can't go now as he is under contract, but will sign for somebody as soon as that contract expires. If he was going to sign he would have by now!
It is a good point about players being released. Of course that is the game and teams do try to help prepare players for this eventuality. And on top of that of course, a club does try not to release a player by giving them the experience and knowledge to be good enough not to be released. Of course not all can be. The fact that only eleven players can start a game guarantees those with an edge great reward, but also those with just excellent ability- nothing at all. The record of Charlton's academy in recent years suggests that whilst Diego clearly has his own talent, the club will have played a significant part in nuturing it. I think it is only reasonable to expect a player who has a great career ahead of him which will be full of financial reward to recognise that. Jenkinson and Shelvey have shown that you can do that without compromising a move to a top club. I don't know the occupations of Valley Gold members, but I'm sure some will be in relatively humble professions - that deserves a bit more respect IMO than some multi-million pound players may be willing to give it. But what you do in your career follows you and if you are just starting it - I think it is good to start it in the right way. It seems to have followed Defoe in our eyes - and many of us find it hard to respect him for the actions he took as a young lad - even though he is now almost retired following a great career!
Look it is just a view. Not a cold business one - but an emotional one. When we take emotion out of football for what we are - football fans - we might as well stop bothering!
@s but it has a ring of truth. I'll get my tin hat anyway.
Cheers for posting and being honest about the reliability - of the info. Unfortunately I fear your source may be spot on but in some ways it's the uncertainty I hate the most.
I'm sure he would have been offered an improved contract - so as long as he signs for a club in this country we should get something. No certainty of that though - we all know that mega rich club Barcelona are a cheating stealer of smaller of club's talent! That is on record - they have been found guilty of it! I liken it to Richard Branson stealing the pennies from a beggar's hat - football really is a despicable game at the highest levels with zero morals! Forgetting about Charlton here- I find it very sad. I wish there was a way we (football fans) could get our game back.
Maybe I am just a nutter but I still think there is a chance he will sign. the opposite of the argument he would have signed by now, there is no reason that he could not have signed for someone else and it be announced as per Hamer.
I ma hoping he is happy for the contract but holding out to see what the new coach is like and what kind of ambition we are showing in the transfer market.
Maybe I am just a nutter but I still think there is a chance he will sign. the opposite of the argument he would have signed by now, there is no reason that he could not have signed for someone else and it be announced as per Hamer.
I ma hoping he is happy for the contract but holding out to see what the new coach is like and what kind of ambition we are showing in the transfer market.
Maybe I am just a nutter but I still think there is a chance he will sign. the opposite of the argument he would have signed by now, there is no reason that he could not have signed for someone else and it be announced as per Hamer.
I ma hoping he is happy for the contract but holding out to see what the new coach is like and what kind of ambition we are showing in the transfer market.
I tend to agree,but If I believe the rumour that Peeters won't arrive until 1st July, by then Diego's contract will have expired, so he will be gone, but surely our new management can't be so stupid as allow that to happen?
I don't think this one is about the new management! There is enough to pin on that door, but this one shouldn't be.
I agree except if Gus and Son are waiting to hear from the new Coach then the club should be moving hel;l and high water to make it happen. Surely he can get on a plane for one day or we can pay for them to get to Belgium./
Someone could go and ask him if he's signing or not as he's playing football at Eltham Goals tonight, if his twitter is anything to go by.
As an aside, are pro-footballers allowed to do this?
What are the Club going to do? Sack him?
To be honest I'm getting fed up with the posts about how much Diego is worth now, next year or in four years time.
I couldn't give a fig if we get £400k or £4m for him - that's for the owner to worry about. So many posting on here like Diego is a commodity, not a 19 year old football player whose skills and talent has been honed by CAFC.
He's been brought through our youth set up and has blasted his way onto the scene since the New Year. So much so, that he was voted the fans POTY.
I just want to see Diego in a Charlton shirt for as long as possible - not because of the fee he may bring in, but because he is a class footballer - and to be quite frank, they have been few and far between over the past few years.
Possibly the best home grown talent I've seen in my 40 years at the Valley and I just want it to last.
If he goes, then he goes. But I'll still be telling my missus 'ex Charlton youth' everytime he appears on my TV screen and I'll still remember being at his debut, just like Shelvey, Solly, Jenkinson, Parker, Rufus, Bowyer, Lee and dozens of others that have come through our youth set up.
All this talk of £400,000 is a bit premature seeing as he could leave for nothing.
He can't leave for nothing. We'd get 400k plus add ons. All agreed and set in stone when the FL sold its rights to the PL big boys. Is this so difficult to understand?
All this talk of £400,000 is a bit premature seeing as he could leave for nothing.
He can't leave for nothing. We'd get 400k plus add ons. All agreed and set in stone when the FL sold its rights to the PL big boys. Is this so difficult to understand?
Someone could go and ask him if he's signing or not as he's playing football at Eltham Goals tonight, if his twitter is anything to go by.
As an aside, are pro-footballers allowed to do this?
What are the Club going to do? Sack him?
To be honest I'm getting fed up with the posts about how much Diego is worth now, next year or in four years time.
I couldn't give a fig if we get £400k or £4m for him - that's for the owner to worry about. So many posting on here like Diego is a commodity, not a 19 year old football player whose skills and talent has been honed by CAFC.
He's been brought through our youth set up and has blasted his way onto the scene since the New Year. So much so, that he was voted the fans POTY.
I just want to see Diego in a Charlton shirt for as long as possible - not because of the fee he may bring in, but because he is a class footballer - and to be quite frank, they have been few and far between over the past few years.
Possibly the best home grown talent I've seen in my 40 years at the Valley and I just want it to last.
If he goes, then he goes. But I'll still be telling my missus 'ex Charlton youth' everytime he appears on my TV screen and I'll still remember being at his debut, just like Shelvey, Solly, Jenkinson, Parker, Rufus, Bowyer, Lee and dozens of others that have come through our youth set up.
Class post. Great set of debuts to have witnessed, I am only missing bob lee from that list.
Solly jenks parker - struggled on debuts IMO
Shelvey, rufus, bowyer - different gravy from day 1.
The key issues here if when he goes are
1. What did we offer? 2. His next destination 3. Games he plays next season
I find it funny people say we cant have a pop if he moves on to a PL reserve side? Why not? Defoe gets crucified but the money he got at 17 changed his life and he didnt have a pot to peesh in. DP can hardly claim that. Any move would because he wants it (PL Status) right now IMO.
Last player claiming he left because he didnt believe in the ownership set up was Kermit and, IMO, thats already been proven to be bullshit.
Someone could go and ask him if he's signing or not as he's playing football at Eltham Goals tonight, if his twitter is anything to go by.
As an aside, are pro-footballers allowed to do this?
What are the Club going to do? Sack him?
To be honest I'm getting fed up with the posts about how much Diego is worth now, next year or in four years time.
I couldn't give a fig if we get £400k or £4m for him - that's for the owner to worry about. So many posting on here like Diego is a commodity, not a 19 year old football player whose skills and talent has been honed by CAFC.
He's been brought through our youth set up and has blasted his way onto the scene since the New Year. So much so, that he was voted the fans POTY.
I just want to see Diego in a Charlton shirt for as long as possible - not because of the fee he may bring in, but because he is a class footballer - and to be quite frank, they have been few and far between over the past few years.
Possibly the best home grown talent I've seen in my 40 years at the Valley and I just want it to last.
If he goes, then he goes. But I'll still be telling my missus 'ex Charlton youth' everytime he appears on my TV screen and I'll still remember being at his debut, just like Shelvey, Solly, Jenkinson, Parker, Rufus, Bowyer, Lee and dozens of others that have come through our youth set up.
Solly jenks parker - struggled on debuts IMO
If I remember correctly,
Solly league debut came on for Ward against Norwich at Home.
Jenkinson League debut at the Victoria Ground v Hartlepool (to be honest, he should have been sent off after his first tackle).
Parkers debut was at Gigg Lane against Bury (I think)
Someone could go and ask him if he's signing or not as he's playing football at Eltham Goals tonight, if his twitter is anything to go by.
As an aside, are pro-footballers allowed to do this?
What are the Club going to do? Sack him?
To be honest I'm getting fed up with the posts about how much Diego is worth now, next year or in four years time.
I couldn't give a fig if we get £400k or £4m for him - that's for the owner to worry about. So many posting on here like Diego is a commodity, not a 19 year old football player whose skills and talent has been honed by CAFC.
He's been brought through our youth set up and has blasted his way onto the scene since the New Year. So much so, that he was voted the fans POTY.
I just want to see Diego in a Charlton shirt for as long as possible - not because of the fee he may bring in, but because he is a class footballer - and to be quite frank, they have been few and far between over the past few years.
Possibly the best home grown talent I've seen in my 40 years at the Valley and I just want it to last.
If he goes, then he goes. But I'll still be telling my missus 'ex Charlton youth' everytime he appears on my TV screen and I'll still remember being at his debut, just like Shelvey, Solly, Jenkinson, Parker, Rufus, Bowyer, Lee and dozens of others that have come through our youth set up.
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400k for Poyet is what? Two weeks wages for Yaya Toure? It's unfathomable.
It is a good point about players being released. Of course that is the game and teams do try to help prepare players for this eventuality. And on top of that of course, a club does try not to release a player by giving them the experience and knowledge to be good enough not to be released. Of course not all can be. The fact that only eleven players can start a game guarantees those with an edge great reward, but also those with just excellent ability- nothing at all. The record of Charlton's academy in recent years suggests that whilst Diego clearly has his own talent, the club will have played a significant part in nuturing it. I think it is only reasonable to expect a player who has a great career ahead of him which will be full of financial reward to recognise that. Jenkinson and Shelvey have shown that you can do that without compromising a move to a top club. I don't know the occupations of Valley Gold members, but I'm sure some will be in relatively humble professions - that deserves a bit more respect IMO than some multi-million pound players may be willing to give it. But what you do in your career follows you and if you are just starting it - I think it is good to start it in the right way. It seems to have followed Defoe in our eyes - and many of us find it hard to respect him for the actions he took as a young lad - even though he is now almost retired following a great career!
Look it is just a view. Not a cold business one - but an emotional one. When we take emotion out of football for what we are - football fans - we might as well stop bothering!
I ma hoping he is happy for the contract but holding out to see what the new coach is like and what kind of ambition we are showing in the transfer market.
As an aside, are pro-footballers allowed to do this?
To be honest I'm getting fed up with the posts about how much Diego is worth now, next year or in four years time.
I couldn't give a fig if we get £400k or £4m for him - that's for the owner to worry about. So many posting on here like Diego is a commodity, not a 19 year old football player whose skills and talent has been honed by CAFC.
He's been brought through our youth set up and has blasted his way onto the scene since the New Year. So much so, that he was voted the fans POTY.
I just want to see Diego in a Charlton shirt for as long as possible - not because of the fee he may bring in, but because he is a class footballer - and to be quite frank, they have been few and far between over the past few years.
Possibly the best home grown talent I've seen in my 40 years at the Valley and I just want it to last.
If he goes, then he goes. But I'll still be telling my missus 'ex Charlton youth' everytime he appears on my TV screen and I'll still remember being at his debut, just like Shelvey, Solly, Jenkinson, Parker, Rufus, Bowyer, Lee and dozens of others that have come through our youth set up.
Solly jenks parker - struggled on debuts IMO
Shelvey, rufus, bowyer - different gravy from day 1.
The key issues here
ifwhen he goes are1. What did we offer?
2. His next destination
3. Games he plays next season
I find it funny people say we cant have a pop if he moves on to a PL reserve side? Why not? Defoe gets crucified but the money he got at 17 changed his life and he didnt have a pot to peesh in. DP can hardly claim that. Any move would because he wants it (PL Status) right now IMO.
Last player claiming he left because he didnt believe in the ownership set up was Kermit and, IMO, thats already been proven to be bullshit.
Please dont go D I E G O
I stand corrected but I think contracts finish on the 31st May, so next week will see a bit of activity.
Solly league debut came on for Ward against Norwich at Home.
Jenkinson League debut at the Victoria Ground v Hartlepool (to be honest, he should have been sent off after his first tackle).
Parkers debut was at Gigg Lane against Bury (I think)